Pretty apparent that the NFL doesn’t think Willis can play. Thats cool, it makes all these draft “guru’s” look like the idiots most of them are. The fervor they stir up around qb’s is pretty funny.
Who are the 2 goofs ESPN pushes? How did their final top 10 list compare to what actually happened? I know they put out like 20 lists but they should have been close on at least one of them.
I suggest waiting until game 3 of the 2025 season to see how the Vikings did with their draft.
Willis was rumored to go as high as 5 or 6 by many so called experts not just the ESPN yahoo’s. Remember when Arodge fell to the Pack or Lamar to the Ravens? This has a similar feel to it.
I don’t know but if I was the new GM, I would look long and hard on why Willis is still on the board.
Most of the top ten fell fairly close.
I know your statement was probably tongue and cheek but waiting 3 years to see if a player can get on the field in the NFL is a bit long. It’s not a developmental league. If you are not contributing in some capacity in your first two years you are drafted you are not worth more than a tackling dummy to these teams.
New GM is not going questionable developmental QB with his first pick when he has one under contract. If it doesn’t work it is a death sentence from the get go.
Especially when your boss thinks the team can win now.
i too was shocked at the trade details and agree that we did not get good value. However for those referencing past trades like the Bears last year you have to remember there arent any QBs in this draft that have people salivating. The massive trade offers to move up were not gonna be there this year. As bucky said i think a better deal would have been to trade down a few spots and still pick up a CB. Ive been wanting Hamilton all along and was overjoyed when he was there. Of course he went to the Ravens which means he will become a superstar.
All in all though we did get a good player of need at 32 in Cine. I still feel like we should have gotten more value for the trade or just stuck and picked but i think getting Cine at 32 makes up for the bad trade just a touch
This trade makes a little more sense now. The guy we got I believe ran a 4.3 and is faster than hamilton but that is just one trait. Who knows how it will all end up. Paul Allen is saying we should take a WR. Not sure about this since we have 3 great WRs. I would prefer defense but would not be opposed to malik.
Initial reaction last night was….less than stellar. However, Leber on KFAN this morning somewhat talked me off the ledge, he was never very high on Hamilton and brings up a good point about a portion of the draft being nothing more than a popularity contest. At the end of the day, OUR crew didn’t feel that Kyle Hamilton (or McDuffie for that matter) was/were worth the #12. Now, I would have been happier if A) We traded back 4-6 spots and possibly took McDuffie or B) We would have retained pick 46 in the trade…I would have been ok with the trade value at that point.
I think I read a stat last night that over his three seasons at Georgia, Cine missed only like 11 tackles? Looks/sounds like a bit of a rangy thumper…which I’m ok with. We will see how it all plays out I guess. Hoping for Dean or Booth JR. at 34.
This trade makes a little more sense now. The guy we got I believe ran a 4.3 and is faster than hamilton but that is just one trait. Who knows how it will all end up. Paul Allen is saying we should take a WR. Not sure about this since we have 3 great WRs. I would prefer defense but would not be opposed to malik.
the guy we got runs a 4.3 and when he hits you it feels like you ran into a brick wall. he can cover too hes not just an in the box safety. he led the incredible Georgia national champions defense in tackles. Hes definitely not slouch and im glad we got him. Still hes not as good of a prospect as Hamilton and the value we got for moving down wasnt enough…..
Im not ready to write off Kwesi after one move but its not a great start
Hoping for Dean or Booth JR. at 34.
X2! We will have a shot at one of them and we should take whichever is available.
I’m hoping they take Dean, Booth or Mafe next.
These seem to be the top 20 left on the board. Still some good players available. Also would take Corral or Howell for QB but not with a 2nd rd pick.
1. Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia (No. 14 overall)
2. Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson (No. 16 overall)
3. Bernhard Raimann, OT, Central Michigan (No. 21 overall)
4. Malik Willis, QB, Liberty (No. 23 overall)
5. Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota (No. 24 overall)
6. Roger McCreary, CB, Auburn (No. 25 overall)
7. George Pickens, WR, Georgia (No. 32 overall)
8. Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss (No. 34 overall)
9. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor (No. 37 overall)
10. Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota (No. 38 overall)
11. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington (No. 39 overall)
12. Logan Hall, DT, Houston (No. 40 overall)
13. Arnold Ebiketie, EDGE, Penn State (No. 41 overall)
14. Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State (No. 42 overall)
15. David Ojabo, EDGE, Michigan (No. 44 overall)
16. Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina (No. 45 overall)
17. Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State (No. 47 overall)
18. Darian Kinnard, OG, Kentucky (No. 48 overall)
19. Ken Walker III, RB, Michigan State (No. 49 overall)
20. Skyy Moore, WR, Western Michigan (No. 50 overall)
I don’t have issues with who they eventualy took at 32, pretty much every player past the top 10 has worts in their game. My issue is soley with the lack of value we got in the trade. Moving back 20 spots in the highly valued 1st round and the cherry on the top it’s to a division rival should warrant alot more compensation!!!
and then the fake smiles and fake enthusiasm AFTER they make the pick and the perverbial “He was our guy all along, we had him in the top 10 on our draft board” BS they spewed…then all the local sports talking heads go quiet and don’t criticize it because they want to stay in the good graces of the team…
gong show…
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>waldo9190 wrote:</div>
Hoping for Dean or Booth JR. at 34.X2! We will have a shot at one of them and we should take whichever is available.
Agreed, of the two, please..please…PLEASE just take one of them at 34 and move on.
PA now providing excuses on how the Vikings didn’t get worked in that trade…
He’s such a homer its gross…of course they want to stay the home of the Vikings Radio Network so in their minds it was the greatest trade in Vikings history…
PA has never had a original thought in his life. He’s a bigger schill then Sid use to be.
Pretty entertaining article out of Detroit. They are describing it as SWINDLING. Too Funny. The look on my buddies face (die hard Viqueen Fan) when he saw the Viking #12 pick (he was anxiously waiting for) change to Detroit was priceless. Thought he was going to do something stupid. Then when he realized they dropped all the way to 32. 
Don’t be surprised if they trade 34 now. With Willis falling out of the first and some quarterback needy teams picking right after 34, I imagine the phone will be ringing.
If they trade back again there might be riots based off all the negativity out there. Truth is nobody really knows how these picks will turn out.
The guy who literally put together the “draft value” board for trading picks ripped the Vikings for not getting enough value, but if you actually use his rankings they did better than expected. These pundits or talking heads dont know which side of their mouth to talk out of.
Cine is going to be a stud. He is a faster Smith who is aging. Having two picks in the top 5 of the second is going to be tremendous and definitely will be able to fill some of their needs.
The guy who literally put together the “draft value” board for trading picks ripped the Vikings for not getting enough value, but if you actually use his rankings they did better than expected. These pundits or talking heads dont know which side of their mouth to talk out of.
Cine is going to be a stud. He is a faster Smith who is aging. Having two picks in the top 5 of the second is going to be tremendous and definitely will be able to fill some of their needs.
We don’t have two picks in the top of the second. Only pick 34.
I am not sure .
But does the 12th pick in 1st round make more money than the 32nd pick.
Maybe because they don’t have enough money to sign a higher pick..
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
The guy who literally put together the “draft value” board for trading picks ripped the Vikings for not getting enough value, but if you actually use his rankings they did better than expected. These pundits or talking heads dont know which side of their mouth to talk out of.
Cine is going to be a stud. He is a faster Smith who is aging. Having two picks in the top 5 of the second is going to be tremendous and definitely will be able to fill some of their needs.We don’t have two picks in the top of the second. Only pick 34.
yep, we gave them our 2nd round pick (lol) and got their 3rd…so we have pick #34 and then 2 x 3rd round picks (2nd and 13th)… we got fleeced…
We don’t have two picks in the top of the second. Only pick 34.
I thought we had 34 and 36 for some reason. Must have read that wrong.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>waldo9190 wrote:</div>
We don’t have two picks in the top of the second. Only pick 34.I thought we had 34 and 36 for some reason. Must have read that wrong.
trade keeps getting worse and worse huh? 
Cine will be a solid NFL player for many years and was a good pick. As many have said, trading back probably made sense…..but I think they could’ve got substantially more for moving x20 picks. I don’t think he will be Harrison Smith of 3-4 years ago necessarily as an All-Pro type guy, but his athletic ability and physical nature will get him on the field from the very start. Smith isn’t near the coverage guy he once was, so a young guy like this who can fly will really help the back end.
I’d assume the betting favorite now is for the Vikings to go CB and try to get the kid from Clemson early in Round 2. It’s either that, or trade back again with a team chasing a QB.
trade keeps getting worse and worse huh?
I dont think its actually that bad TBH. The trade charts dont work year over year especially when there isnt much QB depth in the draft. Comparing trades from other years and the return really doesnt work. I think they are going to be able to trade 34 if they really dont want to pick there and someone is eyeing Willis at that spot. A lot of people surprised he fell that far. The guy I wanted them to move up for was Sauce, but he went higher than they could have conceivably afforded to move up to.
I bet the Vikings don’t plan on staying with pick 34.
Somebody is going to want to move up for Willis or maybe somebody else but my guess is Willis.
So how much can they get for pick 34? Another 2nd and 3rd…maybe more.
I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to Kwesi for now and hope he had this planned out to get good players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. We have a few holes to fill and need depth so if he has names on his board that he thinks will be there in the 2nd and 3rd, he wants more picks in those rounds.
Gawd I hope that’s what the plan is !!!
^Sauce really looks the part and seems to have a confident, yet not cocky attitude towards how he carries himself. I can see why he moved up draft boards with his length. His film from Cincinnati showed just how good he could be without every giving up a TD in his career there. It would have cost a ton to move up that far though.
Stingley Jr. was a much more questionable pick as a CB at the top of the draft. He had a great year, then injuries, then some film that showed a glaring lack of effort. Raw ability he was probably worth the pick…but the NFL can be an extremely humbling place for guys who don’t put in the work or are a bit fragile. He was mocked to the Vikings for a long time before climbing the boards late.
***On a side note, did anyone catch how it was reported the Giants shared that their pre-draft interview with Thibodeaux was “one of the worst they ever had” then they nab him with a smile at #5 overall? The smokescreen some of these teams throw out both publicly and behind the scenes is good stuff.
***On a side note, did anyone catch how it was reported the Giants shared that their pre-draft interview with Thibodeaux was “one of the worst they ever had” then they nab him with a smile at #5 overall? The smokescreen some of these teams throw out both publicly and behind the scenes is good stuff.
Speaking of what teams do, check out the video of the Rams reaction to the Patriots’ pick! McVay says whoa he went there!? I guess we wasted our time scouting him thinking he’d be there at 104! And then a big laugh! LMAO
nice to see the vikings helping out both division rivals!
Does this mf’r know what division the Vikings are in? Wtf?
Tanking is a legitimate strategy. Tanking in the draft is next level analytics though 
i could just imagine all the draft parties when they traded down again 
I bet the beers are flowing like whine tonight!
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