OK, So I am a fowler that has decided to train an upland dog. As posted before, my pooch is much smarter than I am. “No suprise there.” She has already figured out what she is looking for and has seen great succes in doing so. But here’s the issue. She works to close. I’m not sure if this is lack of confidence or bad handling. Probably both. I am an inexperienced trainer. This is my first start to finish dog. Any suggestions on how to work through this would be greatly appreciated.
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Help with the dog.
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August 29, 2005 at 5:16 pm #9464
Enjoy it while it last. As my dog gained experience he worked out more and more. Before long I had to work him back closer again.
August 29, 2005 at 5:16 pm #380849Enjoy it while it last. As my dog gained experience he worked out more and more. Before long I had to work him back closer again.
August 29, 2005 at 5:36 pm #9466Had the same problem when my Weim was young, found he was much more sensitive to the spark collar than my shorthair. Big key is to get them on a live bird that they want to venture after. If you’re just trying to work him in an open field and there’s not much scent, probably won’t motivate him. I used a live bird, tied a kite string to the leg, let him wander for 10 minutes, turned the dog loose…once he found the pot of gold, he worked real well, as still does as long as I don’t push the hot button too often.
Good Luck!August 29, 2005 at 5:36 pm #380863Had the same problem when my Weim was young, found he was much more sensitive to the spark collar than my shorthair. Big key is to get them on a live bird that they want to venture after. If you’re just trying to work him in an open field and there’s not much scent, probably won’t motivate him. I used a live bird, tied a kite string to the leg, let him wander for 10 minutes, turned the dog loose…once he found the pot of gold, he worked real well, as still does as long as I don’t push the hot button too often.
Good Luck!August 29, 2005 at 5:37 pm #9467. Eric is right on the money. As the dog gains confidence it will range out further, in my book there is no dog that can work too close, you just need to slow down and let the dog work, the range will come with time.
August 29, 2005 at 5:37 pm #380864. Eric is right on the money. As the dog gains confidence it will range out further, in my book there is no dog that can work too close, you just need to slow down and let the dog work, the range will come with time.
August 29, 2005 at 6:25 pm #9468I cannot agree enough. My mutt was the same way, always close and checking back with me. They will understand what they are looking for soon enough. I prefer the dog to work slow and cover all the ground, all that running to keep up with the dog takes away from why I am there and makes me mad.
And remember, the shock collar is a reinforcing tool for commands the dog already knows, NOT a training tool. A dog who is worried about getting “hit”, is not good for anything.
Also, if there is anyone in the Rochester area who would like to get together with me and my Vizsla (4 years old and well trained) and work with them, I would love to. It always helps to get the dog around some distractions and make them work. Better simulates field conditions and makes them obey in a controled environment. Only a few weeks until I can get the dog in the field for real again
August 29, 2005 at 6:25 pm #380877I cannot agree enough. My mutt was the same way, always close and checking back with me. They will understand what they are looking for soon enough. I prefer the dog to work slow and cover all the ground, all that running to keep up with the dog takes away from why I am there and makes me mad.
And remember, the shock collar is a reinforcing tool for commands the dog already knows, NOT a training tool. A dog who is worried about getting “hit”, is not good for anything.
Also, if there is anyone in the Rochester area who would like to get together with me and my Vizsla (4 years old and well trained) and work with them, I would love to. It always helps to get the dog around some distractions and make them work. Better simulates field conditions and makes them obey in a controled environment. Only a few weeks until I can get the dog in the field for real again
August 29, 2005 at 8:00 pm #9471Your golden will range further over time. You’ll need to cap that at about 25-30yds out for a flusher. For a pointer you can (and in my opinion you should) let them get out there a lot further.
Clark
August 29, 2005 at 8:00 pm #380906Your golden will range further over time. You’ll need to cap that at about 25-30yds out for a flusher. For a pointer you can (and in my opinion you should) let them get out there a lot further.
Clark
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