Help with the dog.

  • fishinallday
    Montrose Mn
    Posts: 2101
    #211814

    OK, So I am a fowler that has decided to train an upland dog. As posted before, my pooch is much smarter than I am. “No suprise there.” She has already figured out what she is looking for and has seen great succes in doing so. But here’s the issue. She works to close. I’m not sure if this is lack of confidence or bad handling. Probably both. I am an inexperienced trainer. This is my first start to finish dog. Any suggestions on how to work through this would be greatly appreciated.

    eronningen
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1885
    #9464

    Enjoy it while it last. As my dog gained experience he worked out more and more. Before long I had to work him back closer again.

    eronningen
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1885
    #380849

    Enjoy it while it last. As my dog gained experience he worked out more and more. Before long I had to work him back closer again.

    tbird171
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 65
    #9466

    Had the same problem when my Weim was young, found he was much more sensitive to the spark collar than my shorthair. Big key is to get them on a live bird that they want to venture after. If you’re just trying to work him in an open field and there’s not much scent, probably won’t motivate him. I used a live bird, tied a kite string to the leg, let him wander for 10 minutes, turned the dog loose…once he found the pot of gold, he worked real well, as still does as long as I don’t push the hot button too often.
    Good Luck!

    tbird171
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 65
    #380863

    Had the same problem when my Weim was young, found he was much more sensitive to the spark collar than my shorthair. Big key is to get them on a live bird that they want to venture after. If you’re just trying to work him in an open field and there’s not much scent, probably won’t motivate him. I used a live bird, tied a kite string to the leg, let him wander for 10 minutes, turned the dog loose…once he found the pot of gold, he worked real well, as still does as long as I don’t push the hot button too often.
    Good Luck!

    Bob Bowman
    MN
    Posts: 3544
    #9467

    . Eric is right on the money. As the dog gains confidence it will range out further, in my book there is no dog that can work too close, you just need to slow down and let the dog work, the range will come with time.

    Bob Bowman
    MN
    Posts: 3544
    #380864

    . Eric is right on the money. As the dog gains confidence it will range out further, in my book there is no dog that can work too close, you just need to slow down and let the dog work, the range will come with time.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #9468

    I cannot agree enough. My mutt was the same way, always close and checking back with me. They will understand what they are looking for soon enough. I prefer the dog to work slow and cover all the ground, all that running to keep up with the dog takes away from why I am there and makes me mad.

    And remember, the shock collar is a reinforcing tool for commands the dog already knows, NOT a training tool. A dog who is worried about getting “hit”, is not good for anything.

    Also, if there is anyone in the Rochester area who would like to get together with me and my Vizsla (4 years old and well trained) and work with them, I would love to. It always helps to get the dog around some distractions and make them work. Better simulates field conditions and makes them obey in a controled environment. Only a few weeks until I can get the dog in the field for real again

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #380877

    I cannot agree enough. My mutt was the same way, always close and checking back with me. They will understand what they are looking for soon enough. I prefer the dog to work slow and cover all the ground, all that running to keep up with the dog takes away from why I am there and makes me mad.

    And remember, the shock collar is a reinforcing tool for commands the dog already knows, NOT a training tool. A dog who is worried about getting “hit”, is not good for anything.

    Also, if there is anyone in the Rochester area who would like to get together with me and my Vizsla (4 years old and well trained) and work with them, I would love to. It always helps to get the dog around some distractions and make them work. Better simulates field conditions and makes them obey in a controled environment. Only a few weeks until I can get the dog in the field for real again

    fishinallday
    Montrose Mn
    Posts: 2101
    #9469

    Thanks everyone.

    clarkk
    Eagan, MN
    Posts: 174
    #9471

    Your golden will range further over time. You’ll need to cap that at about 25-30yds out for a flusher. For a pointer you can (and in my opinion you should) let them get out there a lot further.

    Clark

    clarkk
    Eagan, MN
    Posts: 174
    #380906

    Your golden will range further over time. You’ll need to cap that at about 25-30yds out for a flusher. For a pointer you can (and in my opinion you should) let them get out there a lot further.

    Clark

    crosby-stick
    Crosby MN
    Posts: 613
    #9473

    Live birds!! Live birds!! Thats all it take’s she’ll be fine

    crosby-stick
    Crosby MN
    Posts: 613
    #380938

    Live birds!! Live birds!! Thats all it take’s she’ll be fine

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