Sadly though because of the mostly political agenda of those at the top, Their great thoughts and ideas are probably never heard.
It’s amazing how many things in that dept are not (or cannot) get done because it doesn’t align with a political agenda or belief. And this goes for both sides of the aisle. Lots of deals and pawns and back slapping going on.
I think it matters more about the type of handling vs just “over” handling in general. If someone catches a fish and throws it in a bucket of water or in a livewell for a while that isnt the same as holding the fish out of the water for minutes on end. I mean, fish need to be in the water to breath. Imagine trying to hold your breath for over a minute? That is what people forget while they do their photo ops.
Queen of England here. Take a few classes in the DOE before exposing yet ignerunce of how a controlled experiment should be done. If I were to use your methods I’d be claiming to have solved the cold fusion problem.
Queen of England here. Take a few classes in the DOE before exposing yet ignerunce of how a controlled experiment should be done. If I were to use your methods I’d be claiming to have solved the cold fusion problem.
So now you watched the video. Just curious 
Queen of England here. Take a few classes in the DOE before exposing yet ignerunce of how a controlled experiment should be done. If I were to use your methods I’d be claiming to have solved the cold fusion problem.
Well, your highness, I would recommend addressing actual issues you see with Aaron’s study, rather than a blatant appeal to authority as the only argument you are making. And spelling ignorance, ignerunce isn’t helping. Unless you are looking to add Drama Queen to your list of titles. With all due respect your majesty. 
Queen of England here. Take a few classes in the DOE before exposing yet ignerunce of how a controlled experiment should be done. If I were to use your methods I’d be claiming to have solved the cold fusion problem.
@steeliedan
Would you mind posting a link to the DNR study? You mentioned you read the entire study. I’d like to as well.
Why bother. Many of you guys seemed to have already made your minds up. And if you can’t see that his “study” is little more than opinion, who am I to disabuse you of it?
Pun alert!
Who says trolling doesn’t work for suckers?
OK, we’ll try this one more time. The DNR study was conducted to assess barotrauma. Aaron’s dealt with the handling of released fish. DUH?
Head up, or head down, wet gills or dry gills doesnt assess barotrauma. (But you already knew that.)
Incidentally, and because there seems to be a need, I’ll be hosting an online seminar on DOE(design of experiments) for those truly interested in how to design (And read And interpret) scientific studies.
I’ll be hosting in on the second Tuesday of next week at noon sharp.
15′. But, as you so astutely recognized, I kept them. I also caught them in Sept. And since I typically employ Dupont spinners, barotrauma rarely factors in in releasing them. The most difficult part of fishing this way is getting those darned things out of the trees when I’m done. I’m always forgetting that ladder.
Thank you. My study is almost concluded. I will be posting it at 12:30 next Tuesday which will be the first Tuesday. Probably not right on time. 
And spelling ignorance, ignerunce isn’t helping.
glad I’m not the only one who got a kick out of that
Why bother. Many of you guys seemed to have already made your minds up. And if you can’t see that his “study” is little more than opinion, who am I to disabuse you of it?
Just post the study and stop making assumptions.
You didn’t actually read the study, did you?
Queen Dee, we know you didn’t watch the wiebe video but did you at least watch the video the dnr did with the linders regarding barotrauma mortality?
I am guessing you didn’t watch that one either. Or you really don’t know as much about scientific studies as you pretend to.
Clearly cakasm is lost on sum ov u.
I guess it’s a good thing gills aint, how you say, gray matter.
Anyway, and with apologies to the late Reverend Spooner, I bin told be thems that matter that I be a pretty fart smeller.
Clearly cakasm is lost on sum ov u.
You need to work on your sarcasm skills.
I am guessing you didn’t watch that one either. Or you really don’t know as much about scientific studies as you pretend to.
Must be a heck of a scientist to be able to draw conclusions about studies he has not watched/read.
Man I love trolling when da suckers are a bitin’!
Yoose guys are too easy.
Man I love trolling when da suckers are a bitin’!
Yoose guys are too easy.
If your first two posts in this thread were a troll attempt, you need to work on your trolling skills too.
So how does it feel to be hooked by an idjit like myself? I may be dumb in yer eyes, but your the one hoo took the bate. Betcha didn’t know I gots 2 different phd’s. Both in soils work.
BTW, PhD= post hole digger for yoose edgeekated types.
Dee, could you please share the link to that full steady you read? I would love to read it.
After thinking about all of this for a bit there are a couple items that are open for debate and more study.
#1 If the DNR’s study was flawed in allowing crappies to return to depth, why did the shallower caught fish have better survival? They still had to battle the net the same as the deep fish.
#2 If over handling fish caused mortality, why was there less mortality when fish were caught shallower?
#3 What difference does it make to put the fish in the water mouth up, when their gills are bend their mouth and will vent air just as well?
#4 Is there a way to test survival rate of fish reeled in quickly vs slowly? If fish have their stomach pushed into their mouth, can it be pushed back and still survive?
I challenge the better fisherman of IDO to make a test.
Two fisherman, one reels in as fast as possible 10 fish from deep water, the other reels in as slow as possible without losing the fish.
Out of 10 fish each, who has more prolapse stomachs?
Man I love trolling when da suckers are a bitin’!
Yoose guys are too easy.
Why ? You trolled no one. You made your self look like a fool. Your first 2 responses are just ignorant and then the last few are just what a d bag would do.
The only person he trolled is himself. I’ve never seen someone backpedal so fast.
The only person he trolled is himself. I’ve never seen someone backpedal so fast.
It was pretty funny.
@steeliedan
Would you mind posting a link to the DNR study? You mentioned you read the entire study. I’d like to as well.
I did a little searching Biggill and couldn’t find it. Which might be due to the Lindner video barotrauma video “was a pilot project. Information gleaned from this project will be used to refine research on the barotrauma issue.” So it doesn’t sound like it’s been published yet, and may never be if it’s included as part of a larger study. Maybe Dee J is sobered up and off of his throne today, and could explain how he read it already. Or confirm he was lying.
If you (or anyone) would like the 3 previous walleye Hooking mortality (not crappie/barotrauma specific) studies the DNR uses, just PM me your email, and I can send them over.
his silence is deafening.. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is reaching out to the DNR to try to get the study to try and save face.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is reaching out to the DNR to try to get the study to try and save face.
Or nursing a hangover
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