Uncle Ted's thoughts on CWD

  • Tom Sawvell
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    IMHO, the biggest issue with CWD is going to be overpopulation.

    The majority of the infected animals are bucks. Get rid of the ridiculous 4 point rule and allow those 6, 5, 4 pointers and spikes to be taken like they always had been and 50% of the problem will be eliminated during the regular seasons. The 4 point rule simply put that many more male deer into the equation each year. The rule fixed nothing as nothing was broken and was put in place because a bunch of greedy yaks think that they’re entitled to shoot a big buck every year. So the over population issue is real except it is the male deer that are severely over-populated and yes even these younger deer travel to try and breed.

    This problem in the se did not exist until AFTER the 4 point rule was trialed and put into effect. Think about it.

    Buffalo Fishhead
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    #1848190

    The majority of the infected animals are bucks.

    Would you please post your source for that information indicating the majority of CWD infected deer are males.

    Thanks,

    Buffalo Fishhead

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
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    #1848210

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>docfrigo wrote:</div>
    IMHO, the biggest issue with CWD is going to be overpopulation.

    The majority of the infected animals are bucks. Get rid of the ridiculous 4 point rule and allow those 6, 5, 4 pointers and spikes to be taken like they always had been and 50% of the problem will be eliminated during the regular seasons. The 4 point rule simply put that many more male deer into the equation each year. The rule fixed nothing as nothing was broken and was put in place because a bunch of greedy yaks think that they’re entitled to shoot a big buck every year. So the over population issue is real except it is the male deer that are severely over-populated and yes even these younger deer travel to try and breed.

    This problem in the se did not exist until AFTER the 4 point rule was trialed and put into effect. Think about it.

    I agree 100%! I hate that “trophy hunters” rule! We all new is was going to screw something in the ecosystem up, guess we have our answer now. doah

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1848215

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tom Sawvell wrote:</div>
    The majority of the infected animals are bucks.

    Would you please post your source for that information indicating the majority of CWD infected deer are males.

    Thanks,

    Buffalo Fishhead

    Its been a common reference made by the researchers and the dnr in our local newspaper when articles about cwd have come along.

    This is just like the aquatic invasives. The shipping industry didn’t do anything to curb the practice of pumping foreign ballast waters into the great lakes and now it the anglers that are under fire. The DNR along with some tribe of yokels in Winona that thought they were entitled to bang a big buck every year worked hard to get this 4 point rule enacted and succeeded. Prior to this SE Minnesota had a very healthy deer herd with a healthy balance of males to females. Not on thing was wrong with the seasons or the deer herd. Every year huge bucks were taken from this corner of the state. Now, with the 4 point rule, male deer numbers are so lopsided because any deer not having points on at least one side cannot be taken. These are the deer that were being taken prior to this rule and kept the balance in check. Nothing was broken before the rule. After, oh yes. The fix? Killing en masse. Removing the rule would eliminate continued upset in the herd’s balance of males/females but just like the aquatic issue, the dnr fails to address something they started and has now created a big problem. If the dnr were even a tiny bit smart they’d dump those employees that stumped so hard to get the rule in place.

    People need to stop and do some serious thinking. If this rule were such a great idea, why wasn’t it enacted state-wide?

    ajw
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Buffalo Fishhead wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tom Sawvell wrote:</div>
    The majority of the infected animals are bucks.

    Would you please post your source for that information indicating the majority of CWD infected deer are males.

    Thanks,

    Buffalo Fishhead

    Its been a common reference made by the researchers and the dnr in our local newspaper when articles about cwd have come along.

    This is just like the aquatic invasives. The shipping industry didn’t do anything to curb the practice of pumping foreign ballast waters into the great lakes and now it the anglers that are under fire. The DNR along with some tribe of yokels in Winona that thought they were entitled to bang a big buck every year worked hard to get this 4 point rule enacted and succeeded. Prior to this SE Minnesota had a very healthy deer herd with a healthy balance of males to females. Not on thing was wrong with the seasons or the deer herd. Every year huge bucks were taken from this corner of the state. Now, with the 4 point rule, male deer numbers are so lopsided because any deer not having points on at least one side cannot be taken. These are the deer that were being taken prior to this rule and kept the balance in check. Nothing was broken before the rule. After, oh yes. The fix? Killing en masse. Removing the rule would eliminate continued upset in the herd’s balance of males/females but just like the aquatic issue, the dnr fails to address something they started and has now created a big problem. If the dnr were even a tiny bit smart they’d dump those employees that stumped so hard to get the rule in place.

    People need to stop and do some serious thinking. If this rule were such a great idea, why wasn’t it enacted state-wide?

    Slot limits come to mind as well

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