Two piece rods

  • Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #2091111

    I have had two piece rods in the past that when I snap my wrists on a cast they split apart. Is this because it’s a cheaper rod or will they all do that? I’m likely in the market for a spinning rod, med action, 7′ max length. Also a baitcaster med / heavy action, 7′ max length. Both 2 piece. Any suggestions? Will there be a bag they both fit into for traveling?

    Thank you.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11601
    #2091113

    Are you wanting 2 piece in 7 foot for traveling purposes? Like a fly in trip or something. Otherwise my 7ft are all one piece and don’t have a problem bringing them places.
    I own one two piece 8.6 rod for panfish that doesn’t split on cast but also not a lot of weight being used in panfish tackle either.

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11834
    #2091121

    most my and my wifes rods are 2 piece and have never had that happen!!!!!!

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #2091122

    Yes for traveling. I’m thinking of touring the Western States by motorcycle this summer and might want t do some fishing along the way.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11601
    #2091129

    Yes for traveling. I’m thinking of touring the Western States by motorcycle this summer and might want t do some fishing along the way.

    Got it makes sense. I think most of the better manufactures you are fine. My st croix panfish rod never comes apart.
    I could see after years of use and popping on and off I could see them wear down a bit.
    I think you won’t have a problem with newer rods.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #2091130

    Take a look at the retractable travel rods. Top slides into the handle end.

    -J.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #2091131

    Dutch, when you put them together, you should start offset some you make a 1/4 twist as you put them together. Reverse when taking apart. Old timer taught me that and it works great. I have 2 piece 8,10,12 foot rods plus fly rods. Makes a big difference

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #2091132

    Take a look at the retractable travel rods. Top slides into the handle end.

    -J.

    Are they like the telescoping ones Diawa had years ago?

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1464
    #2091140

    Get a 7’6″ PVC pipe, caps for both ends. Load 7′ one piece rods into tube, strap to the backrest on the bike. Zip tie a US flag to the tube. You’d look great.

    That said, I have two piece rods that I carry on my Harley trike. Never had any problems related to the ferrule connections. I am more likely to break off a rod tip due to clumsiness than do something bad to the rods on the trike. I roll the rods into 1/4″ dense foam, put them into a 4′ nylon sleeve that ties off on the end. Holds them securely.

    hillhiker
    SE MN
    Posts: 1031
    #2091144

    I keep a 7′ 2 piece Fenwick HMG spinning rod behind the seat of my work truck, and that’s been a great rod. I still prefer a 1 piece rod, but it’s provided a lot of entertainment while on the road!

    robby
    Quad Cities
    Posts: 2823
    #2091145

    Yes for traveling. I’m thinking of touring the Western States by motorcycle this summer and might want t do some fishing along the way.

    This sounds awesome. If you do this, please keep us in the loop. Pics, etc.. Perhaps I can live vicarously through you.

    Sylvanboat
    Posts: 990
    #2091148

    Try sanding the male end just a bit or a thin piece of tape for a snugger fit. I have a couple 2-piece rods and never found any difference with 1-piece rods. Perhaps old wives tale but I remember some guys saying 2-piece rods were not as sensitive.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #2091149

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    Yes for traveling. I’m thinking of touring the Western States by motorcycle this summer and might want t do some fishing along the way.

    This sounds awesome. If you do this, please keep us in the loop. Pics, etc.. Perhaps I can live vicarously through you.

    Will do, still working on some things.

    CBMN
    North Metro
    Posts: 968
    #2091153

    I hate 2 piece rods also as I have had them come apart on me once before and generally speaking I think they are less sensitive and heavier, but that being said I have a few for travel reasons. Last fall I bought a Fenwick 3 piece spinning rod and it is constructed well enough and has two different tip sections, a medium action tip and a medium light action tip section. So it comes with a travel case that fits the rod with the reel (you put on) and all 4 pieces in it. I bought the version that was discontinued last year for a discounted price to leave in the back of my commuter car and also have a 2 piece 7′ spinning rod in the back of my truck. I believe Fenwick and St. Croix (Triumph) also offer travel casting rods that might be better to pack on a two wheeler. I went the Fenwick rod because of the exchangeable tip sections though.

    Website link for the new model of the HMG spinning rod:
    https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/fenwick-hmg-travel-spinning-rod

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4296
    #2091169

    St croix has a 4 piece travel rod. Triumph version if I remember correctly. Doesn’t telescope, goes together like a 2 piece. I haven’t used mine a ton but haven’t had issues with it coming part. Sure packs down nice but more geared towards air travel.

    I have a couple Shimano medium heavy 2 piece rods. I shouldn’t but I throw some small Muskie baits with it and never had issues with it coming apart. Use them for pike fishing on fly in trips.

    I think buy a quality one and put them together like Randy outlines and you’ll be a-ok.

    Doug Sponseller
    Houghton Lake, Michigan
    Posts: 90
    #2091183

    I have several Fenwick2 piece rods in 6.5-7.0 ft. Been using them pike fishing mostly casting spoons. I’ve never had one come apart on a cast. Been using them for several years. Last time I bought some they were about $100. Very happy with them.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11652
    #2091186

    I have fished with 7 foot 2-piece rods on Canadian trips for over 20 years. Never had one of them come apart as Dutch described. I have probably owned a dozen different rods like this.

    I have also used fly rods from 2 to 6 pieces and never had a single occasion where they came apart. With fly rods they do have a tendency to twist and come out of alignment if they are not seated properly. But again I’ve never had one come apart.

    The bottom line is it must be the rod. A farm more common problem is to have difficulty getting them back apart.

    milemark_714
    Posts: 1287
    #2091213

    2-piece rods generally separate during use because each section isn’t wrapped on spine.If the bottom section is on spine,but tip section is 90 degrees off,it will twist it’s way loose.Never thrown a tip section on a 2-piece rod that I built,and the ones in the store I check guide/spine location.If they are more than 5 degrees off,they go back on the rack.

    stevenoak
    Posts: 1719
    #2091257

    Haven’t bought a 2 pc. rod for 30 years. But have an older St. Croix and Cabelas that work for travel. Never an issue coming apart. Check to see if the base may be fractured?

    guthook1
    Lake Nebagamon Wisconsin
    Posts: 409
    #2091296

    Normally on two piece rods the upper section has it’s wrap thickness sleeved over the thickness of the lower section of the rod. ??? Buy quality rods designed for the size and type of fish you hope to catch and matching reels with a good drag system.

    Rodwork
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 3975
    #2091382

    2-piece rods generally separate during use because each section isn’t wrapped on spine.If the bottom section is on spine,but tip section is 90 degrees off,it will twist it’s way loose.Never thrown a tip section on a 2-piece rod that I built,and the ones in the store I check guide/spine location.If they are more than 5 degrees off,they go back on the rack.

    This is 100% true. It all depends on if it was spline right. I have seen many high-end rods that were not splined correctly. Having the best components in the world doesn’t matter if it is put together wrong. It will never perform to the level you are paying for. I always recommend buying a rod in person so you can check the spline.

    Hodag Hunter
    Northern Wisconsin
    Posts: 476
    #2091690

    Dutch, when you put them together, you should start offset some you make a 1/4 twist as you put them together. Reverse when taking apart. Old timer taught me that and it works great. I have 2 piece 8,10,12 foot rods plus fly rods. Makes a big difference

    AND . . . . . . Put a little beeswax on the joint. The “Stickiness” will hold it together. St Croix makes (or did) a product just for that.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8187
    #2091698

    I don’t own a single 2 piece rod, but am now intrigued after reading that many here are finding decent quality ones they do NOT have issues with. Growing up it seemed like they were mostly junk or would come apart if regularly used and broken down.

    The wife’s tritoon is a dedicated cruiser rig that has never seen a fishing rod. But if I could sneak a decent 2 piece into one of the storage areas without the Mrs. knowing…when we come across a school of white bass I’d have some entertainment.

    tswoboda
    Posts: 8521
    #2091703

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>milemark_714 wrote:</div>
    2-piece rods generally separate during use because each section isn’t wrapped on spine.If the bottom section is on spine,but tip section is 90 degrees off,it will twist it’s way loose.Never thrown a tip section on a 2-piece rod that I built,and the ones in the store I check guide/spine location.If they are more than 5 degrees off,they go back on the rack.

    This is 100% true. It all depends on if it was spline right. I have seen many high-end rods that were not splined correctly. Having the best components in the world doesn’t matter if it is put together wrong. It will never perform to the level you are paying for. I always recommend buying a rod in person so you can check the spline.

    Spining a rod blank is very simple and easy to do, right? Takes no extra time to spine a rod vs. find the straightest axis. So why are most professional rod builders disregarding the spine to build on the straightest axis? Why does St. Croix build on the straightest axis? Why does Tom Kirkman, the long time editor of Rodmaker magazine, recommend disregarding the spine after performing controlled tests on how it affects a finished rod.

    The Spine (or “Spline”) of a rod is no more than a marketing tool for custom rod builders and custom rod buyers.

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