Winter meetings.
Yanks get Stanton.
Cardinals get Ozuna.
Twins get Pineda.
Angels get Ohtani.
Royals are going to get gutted.
Marlins will suck for the next decade.
Rangers are getting desperate.
Fun facts……Yankees will pay Stanton the same amount (within a million $) that the Twins will pay Mauer this year.
The Twins got a Pinata? Who’s birthday? 
Buying low and long term on a guy with some upside coming off (or still recovering from) injury (Michael Pineda). But appears to be business as usual with the Twins not even in the conversation for the top Free Agents…
Fixed it for you.
I googled Twins Pinada, and got some funny results! lol I’m pretty optimistic on the Twins roster and front office, just waiting for the Pohlad’s to prove my opinion of them wrong.
I know you are anti Twins at least anti Pohlad. Which free agents do you think are a fit here both ability and cost wise?
You darvish
It’s gonna take $25 million a year for at least 4 years, you wanna pay that?
What is that in bitcoin?
It’s gonna take $25 million a year for at least 4 years, you wanna pay that?
Tough, lot of money, but I vote yes. Twins’ lineup is solid, but the team will go nowhere without some better pitching. A playoff rotation of Darvish-Santana-Berrios sounds good to me.
I know you are anti Twins at least anti Pohlad. Which free agents do you think are a fit here both ability and cost wise?
Yu Darvish and Arrietta don’t do much for me either, but the stadium is heading into its 8th season and we haven’t even been in the conversation for a top of the market free agent in any of those years. I used to be able to give a recommendation of the free agent market, but since we never participate until the top guys are gone I stopped caring.
P.S. The Twins payroll has never exceeded 2010 Target Fields inaugural year.
BigWerm ya better switch to basketball. Taylor spends millions a year to win all those titles.
The Jimmy Butler signing is bigger than any Pohlad kids free agent signing ever, and that’s despite having little to no chance in their league bc of Golden State. The Twins have had multiple teams recently that were close to making a run and they never made the Jimmy Butler or heck even Chili Davis move. So yeah follow something else until the Owner shows a commitment to win.
Nailed it Werm. You mention the Butler signing. I’ll throw in the Parise/Suter and a few other Wild free agent signings as well as what the Vikings did acquiring Bradford. It’s just trying harder, trying to win now or very soon. Hell, even all the offseason signings the Vikings did, retaining Griffin, Rhodes, and Smith….the Twins always let guys at the top of their game like that go. I know those other teams don’t have anything to really show for it but as a fan I’m at least happy to see they’ve tried.
I think they should pony up the cash for Darvish. Would settle for Lance Lynn or to spend for 3 top flight relievers to own the 7th inning on.
Dunno, Stanton signs with the Stankees…? Big deal?? Put NY into the WS? Not too long ago Pujols signed by the Angels was the blessing to send them to the WS? Pablo Sandoval to Boston, where is the WS?
Hope to get lucky and find somebody to come up and surprise. These top free agents had to start somewhere.
The T-Wolves? Big step forward…finally. The window with this group could be short lived though. 
The Astros did a great job of developing players after a decade of tanking, but they still needed to add McCann, Beltran, Liriano, Riddick and Verlander.
Anytime there are really good pitching prospects in low minor leagues, you need to trade. For them with 28+ year old relievers or position players that have hit their ceiling. That’s how you build from within and eventually create a core of players under control that stay together.
If you end up with a surplus of premium arms (doubtful but possible) then trade for missing pieces. Deep pitching talent and prospects coming up are your Bank.
… or, spend $100m/year on 4 premier players and hope they stay healthy and play well enough to win.
TWins are hoping to get Cole or Darvish but you never know during this time of year . They need to do something and Sano is possible trade bait I want Sano to stay but won’t be suprised if that happens. Pineda was not a bad move for 2019 some upside .
Yes we will have to spend 20 to 25 for a legit arm to be added and we can pay it.
Lynn,Cobb,Darvish,Cole
Really don’t care as long as we get one and add to the bullpen. Cole most likely signs with the Yanks but just a little hope we sneak in on that deal.
It’s easy to say throw money at a guy or two and get them. However, these players have the final say on who they sign with. They aren’t coming if they don’t see a chance to win. IMO one pitcher here doesn’t put the Twins over the top. Twins are short a top flight starter, couple of bullpen guys, closer, lead-off hitter, lots of pieces missing yet. And thats assuming that last years guys progress which i’m not sure they all will.
It’s the hot stove season so we will see.
Oh no, Twins sign Fernando Rodney to close. 1 year $6 million.
Also the word on Darvish is 6 or 7 years at $30 million per is what it would take. No thanks.
Oh no, Twins sign Fernando Rodney to close. 1 year $6 million.
Also the word on Darvish is 6 or 7 years at $30 million per is what it would take. No thanks.
Rodney is a good dart throw, he won’t necessarily close and is useful whenever he pitches. Having a “proven closer” is waaaaay overrated anyway, the last 30 years of Twins baseball will tell you just that.
I’d also be out on Darvish at that price, too – I’m a big fan of his but his pitch usage has been weird since he came back from surgery a couple years ago and I have real doubts how long he will remain effective, could be another Hughes situation with him.
I agree on the closer deal. I just have a problem with a guy who can’t even put his own hat on straight. The guy is far to erratic for my taste. But he might do alright.
Dunno, Stanton signs with the Stankees…? Big deal?? Put NY into the WS? Not too long ago Pujols signed by the Angels was the blessing to send them to the WS? Pablo Sandoval to Boston, where is the WS?
Hope to get lucky and find somebody to come up and surprise. These top free agents had to start somewhere.
I don’t think either of those examples are good comparisons to this deal or Stanton.
I think it’s an absolute steal for the Yankees. It’s not very often you can just straight up add an MVP to your team while giving up relatively little. Sure, Stanton is expensive, but he’s being paid what someone of his talent is worth.
The Yankees get to move Elsbury out of CF and replace his production with Stanton’s(Gardner will likely move to CF). That’s a gigantic upgrade, to a team that was one game away from the WS last year.
Either way, the Yankees/Astros and probably Indians are just on a different level than the Twins at this point.
Over/Under on Judge/Stanton combined bombs this year at 110? Heck, their 25 year old catcher Sanchez just hit 33 bombs in 122 games this year on top of that. If they manage to get Machado or Harper too? Scary.
I think the plan will be to play Hicks in center and DH Gardner and try and dump Ellsbury and his contract. They are paying Stanton $24 million. Marlins are still picking up $30 million of his deal. The other thing is Stanton has a opt out after 3 years so if he continues to stay healthy there is a better then 50/50 chance he opts out if he thinks he can get more elsewhere.
Cashman absolutely earned his money on this deal.
That’s a good point, especially considering Harper will likely get $30MM+ / year in the off season this year. Although I think I saw that Marlins will only send over $30MM if Stanton DOES NOT opt out?
Either way, the Yankees are doing exactly what you’d expect. They built a strong young core, a great bullpen and are just coming into their contention window, the perfect time to open up the checkbook.
I’m a huge Darvish fan, but I’d be extremely wary to pay Arrieta anything close to what he’ll be asking, he was not an ace last year.
I wouldn’t pay any of the starters $25-$30 million. There isn’t a starter out there that can take this edition of the Twins anywhere. Now If they do it like when they won the world series that I can get on board with. Get all the other pieces in place and then trade for a number one with only a year left on the contract. Hope he gets you over the top. If he does great, if not you aren’t saddled with a $200 million contract.
Would anybody be on board with trading Sano? I’d dump him in a minute if he comes in overweight again. Or make him a full time DH. I don’t want to count on a out of shape guy who will get hurt.
Would anybody be on board with trading Sano?
I’d say no one is untouchable, but it would take a king’s ransom to get Sano. For one they have 8 years invested into developing him. Two developing a slugger is the only way the Twins will ever have one on their team. And finally having Mauer or Grossman DH, instead of him is terrible management imo.
I agree on the closer deal. I just have a problem with a guy who can’t even put his own hat on straight. The guy is far to erratic for my taste. But he might do alright.
Rodney wears his hat like that in tribute to his dad, who was a fisherman in the DR.
https://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/introducing-fernando-rodney-cap-arrow-numbers-120716
Would anybody be on board with trading Sano? I’d dump him in a minute if he comes in overweight again. Or make him a full time DH. I don’t want to count on a out of shape guy who will get hurt.
That’s a pretty big stretch to say because he’s “overweight” that he’s gonna get hurt again. The dude fouled a pitch of his leg and fractured his tibia, tried for rest/rehab so he could play through it, and now has to have a titanium rod in there for the rest of his life. If that’s not a guy you want on your team, I’ll take him every day and twice on Sunday.
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