Twins 2023 Thread

lindyrig79 wrote:

Pitching has been great but wouldn’t expect to shut down the Astros. Gonna need to score a few too.

Completely agree.

mahtofire14 wrote:

I was actually ok with pretty much all of the moves Rocco made. Jax scares the hell out of me pitching the 8th, but it worked out. I thought Rocco stayed out of the way for the most part.

It’s the playoffs man. Throw your horses. If anything it’ll be Ryan game one then Lopez and Gray.

That would probably make the most sense, run Ryan or someone else out game one and Lopez on 4 days rest and Gray on 5 days on Tuesday for Game 3. FWIW Lopez and Gray were both under the magical 100 pitch mark. Who has been the setup man all season if not Jax? He’s looked pretty good to me, but again I haven’t been watching all season.

Pitching >>> check
Defense >>> check
Timely hitting and scoring >>> check

Jax had a rough June and or July but he has been very good lately.

I still dont understand why they never let Theilbar or even Stewart now ever start the next inning when they only throw 10-15 pitches.

I would put Stewart in for the 8th. But I understand he’s just coming back from injury. Jax hangs that slider so much and got destroyed from July through August. Guess I haven’t gotten that out of my head.

Any update on Correas hand or what was up with Duran? Blister?

Haven’t heard anything. Assuming it’s not too bad. Especially Duran, with the way he pitched.

Verlander game 1 and Valdez game 2. Valdex is very good and a lefty which is brutal for our lineup. Gotta get to Verlander.

The key will be taking pitches and getting him out of the game. Verlander is the only guy in the play-offs that could throw a complete game.

From Dan Hayes in the Athletic:

MINNEAPOLIS — Byron Buxton wants to appear in the postseason in the worst way possible but knows his body is preventing him from doing so. Health isn’t as much a factor for Nick Gordon as is a lack of opportunity and a long layoff.

Yet as disappointed as either may be about being left off the first-round playoff roster, they refuse to let it hinder the Minnesota Twins. Instead, both players are focused on being positive influences for however long this Twins postseason run goes.

While the beginning of the American League Division Series brings the potential for either to be added to the team’s playoff roster before Game 1 on Saturday, Gordon and Buxton won’t let the decision affect how they can still impact the team. From Gordon riding the dugout rail and being Cheerleader No. 1 to Buxton bringing his endless energy to the dugout, the pair is enjoying the team’s run as much as anyone.

“It’s bigger than us,” Gordon said. “It’s bigger than any individual player. Of course, everybody wants to play, everybody wants to be in the playoffs and playing. Injuries and things happen, and you can’t always control that. But I mean, you got to take it for what it is. Look at this situation, look where we’re at. We’re trying to win it all. We’re trying to get to it. If you have that one guy or those two guys that are more mad about not being on the field rather than us being here in general, that can wear a whole team down.”

Smiling from ear to ear about the team’s Game 1 victory and getting “the monkey off our back,” Buxton remained upbeat even when the topic shifted to his exclusion from the 26-man roster.

Buxton traveled with the team to Houston on Thursday as he continues to rehab a sore right knee in hopes of being activated.

Agreeing it is difficult to sit, Buxton remains hopeful about playing in the second round but sounded far from certain of the possibility.

As one team source said, the main issue is consistency. For every half-step forward Buxton takes, he seemingly takes a full one backward and struggles to stay on the field. Buxton thinks he could play but also acknowledges he’d be limited.

“It wouldn’t probably be at the speed I want it to be, and that’s one of those where I don’t want to hurt the team,” Buxton said. “It’s kind of one of those where I don’t want to put the team in a bad spot with me coming back at 50, 60, 70 percent. There’s guys in here that have done a great job of keeping us where we’re at. It’s kind of knowing your body, knowing who you are and just putting yourself in a place to help the team.”

Buxton went on the injured list retroactive to Aug. 2 with a strained right hamstring. As he tirelessly worked to build up in order to play center field, Buxton’s right knee began to bother him.

Despite the soreness, Buxton continued to push forward in hopes of making the roster, efforts that manager Rocco Baldelli described as close. But the Twins felt adding Buxton wasn’t the right decision.

“Buck worked incredibly hard to get back,” Baldelli said. “He can certainly look in the mirror and go, he worked his butt off to get in the best possible physical shape he could. But it was a hard, emotional talk when I spoke with him because talking about these things is difficult and frustrating, too, at times. We both were sitting in the room knowing that he wasn’t going to be able to play in this series. So the actual decision part of it of what was the right decision, we both knew what that decision was and so we made it.”

Buxton remains in day-to-day mode. He’ll continue to take live at-bats, get treatment and rehab as much as possible. But there are no promises.

Gordon promises to keep bringing the energy. He may not play, but the utility man intends to provide the Twins with all the benefits a hype man can offer.

“This is an opportunity that many people don’t get in life,” Gordon said. “Regardless of what my situation is or how things happen, that’s out of my control. What I can control is being here for my teammates. Man, they got me so excited (on Tuesday).”

Twins mum on Game 1 starter
Nobody yet knows whom the Twins will trot out to pitch when they open the ALDS on Saturday afternoon at Houston. The likeliest candidates are Joe Ryan, who was scheduled to start Game 3 against Toronto on Thursday if necessary, or Bailey Ober, who pitched a gem in Denver to end the regular season Sunday.

Excluded from the first-round roster because the Twins needed only three starting pitchers, Ober said Thursday he’s not certain he’ll make the roster in the second round but that the Twins have dropped hints he’ll pitch at some point in the series.

After going 8-6 with a 3.43 ERA and 146 strikeouts in 144 1/3 innings, Ober doesn’t intend to make a case to Twins decision-makers that he should start. Sent to the minors in early September for a mental and physical reset, Ober, who is at a career high for innings pitched, has pitched great since returning.

Ober is 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA and 26 strikeouts in 21 2/3 innings since rejoining the club Sept. 15.

“Let the play throughout the whole year kind of speak for itself,” Ober said. “I’m not going to go in there and tell them this is what I want, this is what I demand. Just going to go out there every single day and do what I can. Hopefully, whatever they think is best is what they’re going to roll with. I think every one of these guys is going to step up and do their part.”

While Ober is thriving late, Ryan hasn’t been nearly as sharp since he returned from the IL on Aug. 26. A final start in Denver sent Ryan’s post-IL ERA soaring to 4.79 in seven starts. Prior to that, Ryan had a 3.82 ERA and 39 strikeouts in 30 2/3 innings.

The Twins also could start Kenta Maeda in the opener. Maeda posted a 2.82 ERA and struck out 21 in 22 1/3 innings in his final four starts but last started Sept. 19, pitching just once in relief since on Sept. 28.

“There’s definitely some considerations any time you go into a series, matchups and who lines up, where your bullpen guys are going to slot and what that looks like in general,” Twins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey said. “We’ll work through that over the next 24, 48 hours.”

Falvey also hinted the Twins are likely to use 13 pitchers in the next round after bringing 12 into the Toronto series.

Carlos Correa ‘ready’ after hit by pitch
One of several scares the Twins endured in their second win over Toronto was when shortstop Carlos Correa, whose sore left heel looked leaps and bounds better, was hit in the hand with a pitch in his final plate appearance.

X-rays revealed no fractured fingers for Correa, who remained in the game. Falvey said Correa was sore but fine on Thursday, 48 hours before the team’s next game.

“It’s the postseason and he’s ready to go,” Falvey said. “He got hit pretty hard there. But good signs from what we saw (Wednesday) night from an imaging standpoint.”

All signs looked great when it came to Correa’s heel after he returned from the IL on Tuesday. Dogged by plantar fasciitis most of the season, Correa ran as well as he has all season against Toronto. Whereas his sprint speed averaged 26.5 feet per second during the season, Correa produced a 28.7 mark while beating out an infield hit. He also sped from first to third on a hit later in the game and flew across the field Tuesday to save a run with his Derek Jeter-esque defensive play.

“It felt like I was flying,” Correa said.

• Team trainers tended to Jhoan Duran after he cut his thumb on a seam of the baseball and was bleeding in the ninth inning Wednesday. After several minutes of work, Duran was fine to pitch. He struck out three of the four batters he faced to convert his second save of the series.

• Royce Lewis isn’t sure he’ll be ready to return to third base for the Astros series. His strained left hamstring held up well enough, but he’s not sure he’s ready to go any harder.

“I don’t want to push it to where I can be out for the rest of the playoffs, let alone set back my offseason,” Lewis said. “I think we’re just trying to maintain what we have and play at whatever percent I am.”

• Griffin Jax apparently channeled his inner football player when Cavan Biggio slammed into him on a grounder down the first-base line in the eighth inning Wednesday. The reliever, who was about as electric as he’s been all season in consecutive days facing the exact same Toronto hitters, said he was simply happy to hang onto the ball.

His father, Garth Jax, played 10 seasons in the NFL for the Cowboys and Cardinals.

“Just make the play and let the body recover,” Jax said.

Writer makes mistake
Your friendly neighborhood Twins beat writer would like to acknowledge mistakes were made when he suggested the Sonny Gray-Carlos Correa pickoff play on Wednesday is the greatest in Twins history. Many readers were quick to point out the biggest is when catcher Tim Laudner fired the ball to third baseman Gary Gaetti to pick off Darrell Evans in Game 4 of the 1987 AL Championship Series.

That said, it’s Aaron Gleeman’s fault. In attempting to research the statement, said writer texted Gleeman at a very reasonable 8:45 p.m. and asked: “Can you recall a bigger (Twins) pickoff ever?”

No response was received.

The lesson: When convenient, always blame Gleeman.

Duran had a small cut that they had to clean up the blood so it wouldn’t get on the ball. He was fine.
CC was popping bottles with that hand so guessing he is good as well.

im gonna sound like a dummy here but i literally just learned of the existence of pitch-com as a result of this pick off play. For real? pitchers and catchers talk using buttons now? they dont throw down hand signals anymore? How do the baseball purists feel about this?

mahtofire14 wrote:

Jax hangs that slider so much

You mean “looping” slider.

Well guys I got back on the bandwagon. The Twins need to hit enough and the bullpen be stellar and they’ll continue in the playoffs. Meaningful October Twins’ baseball, who would have thunk it!!

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crappie55369 wrote:

im gonna sound like a dummy here but i literally just learned of the existence of pitch-com as a result of this pick off play. For real? pitchers and catchers talk using buttons now? they dont throw down hand signals anymore? How do the baseball purists feel about this?

Yeah I think this is the first year of it maybe not. I dont remember it last year, but I think they did it to eliminate sign stealing. I dont mind it actually but Im not a baseball purist either.

crappie55369 wrote:

im gonna sound like a dummy here but i literally just learned of the existence of pitch-com as a result of this pick off play. For real? pitchers and catchers talk using buttons now? they dont throw down hand signals anymore? How do the baseball purists feel about this?

I don’t recall when they started allowing it, and I don’t like it. But they have changed so much (pitch clock, base size, runner on second in extra innings etc.) in such a short period of time that it kinda gets lost in the shuffle.

FYI Twins Daily later posted the pitching lineup for the Twins as Ryan, Lopez, Gray, Ober, Lopez.

And I’m still not buying a WS run, but am enjoying the ride of some local playoff baseball.

Winning the AL is not too far fetched. Some of those NL teams (Braves) is a whole new ballgame! Was at the first game on Tuesday and like others have said, the crowd was fantastic! Bring on the ‘Stros

I’d actually prefer a Ober/Maeda/Paddack combo over Ryan right now. Maybe he will have a short leash knowing we have Maeda, Paddack, Varland for long relief.

I think if they get past Houston they have a good shot at getting the the World Series. That being said, I don’t see ANYONE beating the Braves.

Correa gives us postseason cred. He’s got to be a great influence this time of year especially. Hopefully he can stick his old team.

BigWerm wrote:

FYI Twins Daily later posted the pitching lineup for the Twins as Ryan, Lopez, Gray, Ober, Lopez.

It’s odd that Twins Daily would be the one breaking that. I don’t think they have any insiders with the organization so I’m surprised no one else is reporting that.

mahtofire14 wrote:

That being said, I don’t see ANYONE beating the Braves.

Didnt the Twins get destroyed by them this year? I mean, they held their own with basically everyone else, but if memory serves I think the Braves torched them, but I think that was back in June when they just were not hitting.

Bailey Ober named the Game 1 starter… Nice! Joe Ryan (HR prone) isn’t a great matchup in the Houston ballpark. Love the switchup to Ober.

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
That being said, I don’t see ANYONE beating the Braves.

Didnt the Twins get destroyed by them this year? I mean, they held their own with basically everyone else, but if memory serves I think the Braves torched them, but I think that was back in June when they just were not hitting.

I believe you are spot on.

Dutchboy wrote:

From Dan Hayes in the Athletic:

MINNEAPOLIS — Byron Buxton wants to appear in the postseason in the worst way possible but knows his body is preventing him from doing so. Health isn’t as much a factor for Nick Gordon as is a lack of opportunity and a long layoff.

Yet as disappointed as either may be about being left off the first-round playoff roster, they refuse to let it hinder the Minnesota Twins. Instead, both players are focused on being positive influences for however long this Twins postseason run goes.

While the beginning of the American League Division Series brings the potential for either to be added to the team’s playoff roster before Game 1 on Saturday, Gordon and Buxton won’t let the decision affect how they can still impact the team. From Gordon riding the dugout rail and being Cheerleader No. 1 to Buxton bringing his endless energy to the dugout, the pair is enjoying the team’s run as much as anyone.

“It’s bigger than us,” Gordon said. “It’s bigger than any individual player. Of course, everybody wants to play, everybody wants to be in the playoffs and playing. Injuries and things happen, and you can’t always control that. But I mean, you got to take it for what it is. Look at this situation, look where we’re at. We’re trying to win it all. We’re trying to get to it. If you have that one guy or those two guys that are more mad about not being on the field rather than us being here in general, that can wear a whole team down.”

Smiling from ear to ear about the team’s Game 1 victory and getting “the monkey off our back,” Buxton remained upbeat even when the topic shifted to his exclusion from the 26-man roster.

Buxton traveled with the team to Houston on Thursday as he continues to rehab a sore right knee in hopes of being activated.

Agreeing it is difficult to sit, Buxton remains hopeful about playing in the second round but sounded far from certain of the possibility.

As one team source said, the main issue is consistency. For every half-step forward Buxton takes, he seemingly takes a full one backward and struggles to stay on the field. Buxton thinks he could play but also acknowledges he’d be limited.

“It wouldn’t probably be at the speed I want it to be, and that’s one of those where I don’t want to hurt the team,” Buxton said. “It’s kind of one of those where I don’t want to put the team in a bad spot with me coming back at 50, 60, 70 percent. There’s guys in here that have done a great job of keeping us where we’re at. It’s kind of knowing your body, knowing who you are and just putting yourself in a place to help the team.”

Buxton went on the injured list retroactive to Aug. 2 with a strained right hamstring. As he tirelessly worked to build up in order to play center field, Buxton’s right knee began to bother him.

Despite the soreness, Buxton continued to push forward in hopes of making the roster, efforts that manager Rocco Baldelli described as close. But the Twins felt adding Buxton wasn’t the right decision.

“Buck worked incredibly hard to get back,” Baldelli said. “He can certainly look in the mirror and go, he worked his butt off to get in the best possible physical shape he could. But it was a hard, emotional talk when I spoke with him because talking about these things is difficult and frustrating, too, at times. We both were sitting in the room knowing that he wasn’t going to be able to play in this series. So the actual decision part of it of what was the right decision, we both knew what that decision was and so we made it.”

Buxton remains in day-to-day mode. He’ll continue to take live at-bats, get treatment and rehab as much as possible. But there are no promises.

Gordon promises to keep bringing the energy. He may not play, but the utility man intends to provide the Twins with all the benefits a hype man can offer.

“This is an opportunity that many people don’t get in life,” Gordon said. “Regardless of what my situation is or how things happen, that’s out of my control. What I can control is being here for my teammates. Man, they got me so excited (on Tuesday).”

Twins mum on Game 1 starter
Nobody yet knows whom the Twins will trot out to pitch when they open the ALDS on Saturday afternoon at Houston. The likeliest candidates are Joe Ryan, who was scheduled to start Game 3 against Toronto on Thursday if necessary, or Bailey Ober, who pitched a gem in Denver to end the regular season Sunday.

Excluded from the first-round roster because the Twins needed only three starting pitchers, Ober said Thursday he’s not certain he’ll make the roster in the second round but that the Twins have dropped hints he’ll pitch at some point in the series.

After going 8-6 with a 3.43 ERA and 146 strikeouts in 144 1/3 innings, Ober doesn’t intend to make a case to Twins decision-makers that he should start. Sent to the minors in early September for a mental and physical reset, Ober, who is at a career high for innings pitched, has pitched great since returning.

Ober is 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA and 26 strikeouts in 21 2/3 innings since rejoining the club Sept. 15.

“Let the play throughout the whole year kind of speak for itself,” Ober said. “I’m not going to go in there and tell them this is what I want, this is what I demand. Just going to go out there every single day and do what I can. Hopefully, whatever they think is best is what they’re going to roll with. I think every one of these guys is going to step up and do their part.”

While Ober is thriving late, Ryan hasn’t been nearly as sharp since he returned from the IL on Aug. 26. A final start in Denver sent Ryan’s post-IL ERA soaring to 4.79 in seven starts. Prior to that, Ryan had a 3.82 ERA and 39 strikeouts in 30 2/3 innings.

The Twins also could start Kenta Maeda in the opener. Maeda posted a 2.82 ERA and struck out 21 in 22 1/3 innings in his final four starts but last started Sept. 19, pitching just once in relief since on Sept. 28.

“There’s definitely some considerations any time you go into a series, matchups and who lines up, where your bullpen guys are going to slot and what that looks like in general,” Twins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey said. “We’ll work through that over the next 24, 48 hours.”

Falvey also hinted the Twins are likely to use 13 pitchers in the next round after bringing 12 into the Toronto series.

Carlos Correa ‘ready’ after hit by pitch
One of several scares the Twins endured in their second win over Toronto was when shortstop Carlos Correa, whose sore left heel looked leaps and bounds better, was hit in the hand with a pitch in his final plate appearance.

X-rays revealed no fractured fingers for Correa, who remained in the game. Falvey said Correa was sore but fine on Thursday, 48 hours before the team’s next game.

“It’s the postseason and he’s ready to go,” Falvey said. “He got hit pretty hard there. But good signs from what we saw (Wednesday) night from an imaging standpoint.”

All signs looked great when it came to Correa’s heel after he returned from the IL on Tuesday. Dogged by plantar fasciitis most of the season, Correa ran as well as he has all season against Toronto. Whereas his sprint speed averaged 26.5 feet per second during the season, Correa produced a 28.7 mark while beating out an infield hit. He also sped from first to third on a hit later in the game and flew across the field Tuesday to save a run with his Derek Jeter-esque defensive play.

“It felt like I was flying,” Correa said.

• Team trainers tended to Jhoan Duran after he cut his thumb on a seam of the baseball and was bleeding in the ninth inning Wednesday. After several minutes of work, Duran was fine to pitch. He struck out three of the four batters he faced to convert his second save of the series.

• Royce Lewis isn’t sure he’ll be ready to return to third base for the Astros series. His strained left hamstring held up well enough, but he’s not sure he’s ready to go any harder.

“I don’t want to push it to where I can be out for the rest of the playoffs, let alone set back my offseason,” Lewis said. “I think we’re just trying to maintain what we have and play at whatever percent I am.”

• Griffin Jax apparently channeled his inner football player when Cavan Biggio slammed into him on a grounder down the first-base line in the eighth inning Wednesday. The reliever, who was about as electric as he’s been all season in consecutive days facing the exact same Toronto hitters, said he was simply happy to hang onto the ball.

His father, Garth Jax, played 10 seasons in the NFL for the Cowboys and Cardinals.

“Just make the play and let the body recover,” Jax said.

Writer makes mistake
Your friendly neighborhood Twins beat writer would like to acknowledge mistakes were made when he suggested the Sonny Gray-Carlos Correa pickoff play on Wednesday is the greatest in Twins history. Many readers were quick to point out the biggest is when catcher Tim Laudner fired the ball to third baseman Gary Gaetti to pick off Darrell Evans in Game 4 of the 1987 AL Championship Series.

That said, it’s Aaron Gleeman’s fault. In attempting to research the statement, said writer texted Gleeman at a very reasonable 8:45 p.m. and asked: “Can you recall a bigger (Twins) pickoff ever?”

No response was received.

The lesson: When convenient, always blame Gleeman.

Keep Buxton as far away from the team and roster as possible. The guy is about to turn 30 and has never stayed healthy nor has done much lately when healthy.

I’m more of a Brewers fan than Twins (Twins probably second growing up close enough to go to more games of the Twins), and it frustrates me that no matter what is going on Buxton has to be a forced focal point. The people who live and breathe the Twins have to feel even more strongly about it you’d think?

Move on Minnesota. You have a better thing going without him

Wasn’t real excited about Ryan in game 1. I like him but he can’t be real confident right now after getting shelled the last couple months. Hopefully Ober can get it done.

There are several arms that didn’t get burned up in the Blue Jays series Rocco can turn to.

AnotherFisherman wrote:

Bailey Ober named the Game 1 starter… Nice! Joe Ryan (HR prone) isn’t a great matchup in the Houston ballpark. Love the switchup to Ober.

I agree with the decision 100% if this is it. Ober has been the 3rd best starter for most of the year and I watched more ball than I care to admit. He was better than Pablo for 75% of the year so I love seeing him get the call and step up.

I wasn’t sure how I felt about it until I was reminded of Ryan’s two starts against Houston this season. Ober has been really consistent. Never great, but rarely bad. I’m okay with this decision but the bats are going to have to show up because it won’t be a 2-1 game.

Guessing we’re gonna get screwd cause first game started late I don’t think FS1 has bonus channels. Probably get to see about the 3rd inning. At least espn would put on a different channel or TBS would go to TNT.

almost game time and my prediction is that the team that scores more runs will win!

all kidding aside both teams have a well rested bullpen at least? i can’t say i like their chances but maybe the rest makes the Stros rusty?