Twins 2022

mahtofire14 wrote:

Last years number one doesn’t mean much because he was an extremely raw high school pick that most people thought was taken much too soon. High school picks are like a shot in the dark anyway. Not saying Gray is great but he was one of the better arms left.

But that #1 pick last year was taken by this same GM. Are they admitting they picked the wrong guy not even 10 months after the draft?

Agree with you on HS pitchers are a shot in the dark…but then why did they take one?

By giving Donaldson away, it seems they are admitting that it was a bad signing too.

By giving Donaldson away they took a huge monetary signing off the books and three more years. The Yankees are paying all of his remaining contract. Now they can go after Trevor Story and more pitching hopefully.

Does seem a little odd to essentially give up Garver to get Sanchez as you’d think Donaldson & Rortvedt would have been enough to get Urshela but we’ll see where this ends up I guess…Happy to see them doing something anyways

Carlos Correa? Did not see that coming?

Holy crap. No joke. I thought maybe Story…..Wow.

Still need pitching but that’s the biggest signing in Twins history. Still need a lot of pitching though. He will be fun to watch!

He should be able to help the whole team hit better. 🗑🗑🗑

You don’t make the moves to build a younger nucleus when you are spot-lock anchored by Donaldson’s contract for an aging and oft-injured veteran. See ya JD!

Looks like this is more of a 1 year money grab deal…no?

WTF would he sign here?

No it’s a 3 year deal. He has out clauses which is good for both sides. The really cool thing is now we can move Austin Martin and or Royce Lewis for two of the the A’s top starters. We legit could get both of them IF the front office actually does it.

That clause is a straight up option he has after year 1 when the market is back to normal and he goes for that 300 mil deal.
Guessing it was something the twins had to offer to even have a chance at him.

Not hating on the Twins for going for it, just the reality of the deal.

He could get you a haul of prospects in July for really not that much money you put into it at that point. If they are not in playoff contention.

Let’s see if they can somehow get some pitching.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Let’s see if they can somehow get some pitching.

It really shouldn’t be hard with the prospect pool they have. They could realistically get two top half of the rotation starters still. I’d rather they trade for them because the FA market is empty for starters.

Don’t disagree with that.

Sounds like we are signing Joe Smith too. That will help the pen.

Holy crap! I take back everything I said about the Pohlads. With Correa on board, they may as well go all in and get another pro ready starter.

I’m skeptical he’ll be here all three years but if we trade for Montas this team could content and maybe he’ll stick around.

Wow! I thought someone put acid in my prune juice! Big time splash by the twinks. Biggest money in league history for a infielder I heard?

Don’t stop now!

“The really cool thing is now we can move Austin Martin and or Royce Lewis for two of the the A’s top starters. We legit could get both of them IF the front office actually does it.”

Twins are 1-2 top starters away from being an actual threat to win the division (and more importantly win a first round series against the Yankers). Steep cost to part with either Lewis or Martin… but yeah, then they could actually become a legit contender just by getting rid of JD and moving some chips around…

FryDog62 wrote:

“The really cool thing is now we can move Austin Martin and or Royce Lewis for two of the the A’s top starters. We legit could get both of them IF the front office actually does it.”

Twins are 1-2 top starters away from being an actual threat to win the division (and more importantly win a first round series against the Yankers). Steep cost to part with either Lewis or Martin… but yeah, then they could actually become a legit contender just by getting rid of JD and moving some chips around…

I don’t really think its steep. For two top level starting pitching I’d give up Lewis and Martin in a second. Lewis hasn’t played in 2 years (which is why I think the A’s are asking for Miranda not him) and Martin doesn’t project as an MLB SS so that drop his value as well.

1 thing I will add on Royce.
The chances of him being a phenomenon is so slight. Could he be a starting caliber SS or even an all star? Sure?
The chance of him being a generational player after 2 years of not playing baseball in his early 20’s:teens
Is pretty much zero.
Definitely not an untouchable asset at this point.
He has better chance of being a complete bust vs being the next Jeter.

And Frydog, we get you didn’t like JD…😂😂😂

Yes Royce “most likely” won’t be a major league SS however he has more of a chance staying at short that Martin.

I think teams aren’t big on Lewis as a trade piece understandably, because he hasn’t played in two years. So I think it’s going to take some sort of Martin/Miranda combination or one of the two along with another prospect or two to land some good pitching.

“And Frydog, we get you didn’t like JD…😂😂😂”

Will be interesting if JD gets taunted when he comes back to play against the Twins at Target Field like AJ Pierzinski did. I don’t think he was here long enough, but maybe. First time he takes a heater high and tight to the chin by one of our pitchers we might see his true colors. Or more likely maybe he’ll be hurt and not be able to play when the Yankers are in town…

Landing a top half of rotation starter makes the bullpen considerably better as well. The Twins have a history of burning out the bullpen when the starters can’t last into the 6th inning or so. Keeping the starter on the mound with a legitimate chance of getting batters out deeper into the game takes a lot of pressure off the relievers.

I think it is well worth trading top prospects for a good starting pitcher.

I think we’re severely over estimating the value of both Martin and Lewis. They’re nothing special to be honest. Average at best.

At this point yes with Lewis. No with Martin. He’s a top 3 prospect in most organizations.

FryDog62 wrote:

“And Frydog, we get you didn’t like JD…😂😂😂”

Will be interesting if JD gets taunted when he comes back to play against the Twins at Target Field like AJ Pierzinski did. I don’t think he was here long enough, but maybe. First time he takes a heater high and tight to the chin by one of our pitchers we might see his true colors. Or more likely maybe he’ll be hurt and not be able to play when the Yankers are in town…

Like him or not, and worth his contract or not, he was one of the best 3b in the American league last year. He’s obviously not the MVP caliber player he once was but you can’t say he didn’t play well last year.

That being said, I’m glad to be rid of his contract and his calf.

JD hit a home run today for the Yanks in Spring Training. I predict he’ll do well for them and they will go deep into the playoffs. He might be what New York needs, but the Twins need to rebuild with younger talent, a short stop and pitching, not an aging third baseman.

Sounds like the A’s are increasingly more ok with holding on to their starters until the deadline. That’s a big time problem for the Twins. There isn’t many other options out there for them to fill their rotation and if they start without adding anyone else it’s not gonna be good.

Gray
Ober
Joe Ryan
Dylan Bundy
Jhoan Duran/Griffin Jax

Not the best way to try and convince Correa he should stay for more than one year. Hopefully the Twins keep going after them.

He had zero intentions of staying either way.

I think if they have a solid season he will think about it.