Twins 2021

Down by 2 heading to top of 8th

They made it interesting at least. I don’t get Maeda. I don’t understand how you can be on one night and be SO off the next.

Must’ve been using spider tac.

Man, White Sox fans are really gonna hate Donaldson…..

They probably get over it fast when they start clobbering the twins.

Other than pitching the White Sux have nothing. Thats a terrible line up they are running out there. That said they can pound these Twins at will.

Maeda is who the Dodgers knew he was. A very capable #4 or 5, a good long man. A step up from the Shoemakers and Happs of the world. Not nearly as bad as Colome.

The good news is the Twins next ace was born yesterday in Brazil. We just need Falvey to go sniff him out and for Gleeman to let us know how great he will be in 23 years.

“Other than pitching the White Sux have nothing.”

Agree, but further proves good pitching outlasts a batting order built around power… Twins are doomed and this series just furthers the point. Trade any/all for quality arms/prospects. And hopefully those prospects aren’t 23 years away!

If anybody gets the Athletic Gleeman & Hayes have a couple of articles out. About as good as the Twins pitching but they are worth reading.

Pretty amazing how Old Man Boomer LaRussa is wiping the floor with the teams that are analytics whores. Amazing how moving runners over, stealing bases, having a strategy of getting hits instead of HR or bust, actually works. Who would’ve thought……

Sad part is the Twins and Baldelli are too stupid to learn from this drubbing.

It’s almost like the game was played before these
Experts showed up. Could this mean wins actually mean something?

Gotta be some team that will take Sano… we don’t need anything in return..

I think we all knew it, but you can certainly stick a fork in them after this series. Absolutely embarrassing, even for this team. Outclassed the whole series. Pitching, offense, and coaching.

Problem is where do we go from here? I don’t agree with blowing the whole thing up. Except the pitching. They can get rid of everyone for all I care. The issue there is they have NOTHING in the minors either. And the top arms they do have (top for our system) are all hurt.

Not going to be a fun rest of the season that’s for sure.

Let Cruz go. Sano can eat a couple more cheeseburgers, bat 8th & be the DH next year.

Kirilloff at 1st.
Arreaz at 2nd.
Buy a shortstop
Donaldson at 3rd
Garber / Jeffers at c
Larnuch, Gordon, Buxton in the of

Move Buxton to a corner.

Shoemaker was released today so he is gone. Berrios will get traded. Maeda & Happ are cheap, they will keep them. They will try Ober, Dobnack, and some other triple A guy.

Bullpen…..who knows. I’d like to keep Rogers but only in the 8th inning role. Can clean the rest of them out.

There is no pitching on the way that will help. Just more wishful thinking by Falvey / Gleeman.

Buxton will not be moved to a corner spot. Pretty sure you will see Gordon go back to his poor hitting once the book is out on him. He’s already slowing down.

My thought on Gordon was I’d rather have him running into walls than Buxton. I’m in no way sold on Gordon either. I want him playing every inning of every game to see if he can play or not. We waste to much time coddling and easing in guys who it turns out can’t play. This season is done. Play the guys who you need to find out if they can play or not.

Just my opinion. BTW, that back-up, back-up catcher kid should sit down next to Rocco for the rest of the year. He can’t / won’t play anyway. Play Jeffers until he drops.

AZ is looking to move Escobar, see if they’ll trade for JD even if we have to pay part of his salary. That contract will haunt the Twins like Lyme Disease for years.

I have no problem with guys like Donaldson who want to play. Apply Cruz’s $14 million towards Donaldsons deal and replace Cruz with a minimum wage guy.

When Donaldson has been in the lineup he’s been pretty good actually. Especially the last 20 games.

No doubt JD is good when he plays, but a recurrent injury at his age I think will have a greatly diminished return over the remaining years of his expensive contract.

His kind of money prevents the Twins from going after top FA starting pitching which this team needs more than anything. Front line starters will take more teams deep into the playoffs than most 3rd basemen ever will.

I’ll eat my sweaty, old Daiwa hat if we don’t look back at the end of Donaldson’s contract with the Twins and regret the signing. Hope I’m wrong…

Some players we would get very little for – others we might be surprised. That said, I would trade any of the following for a blue chip, power arm, minor league prospect:

•Cruz
•Kepler
•Simmons
•Sano
•Polanco

Yes, for the right type of pitching even Buxton. Too brittle and he’s going to be too expensive for what you get in return I’m afraid. But he’s exciting and the team will try to sign him at all costs.

Trading people from a fans standpoint is easy. I think the club is interested in selling seats to future games. The big question becomes….who will go watch this bunch of mutts play?

I have no problem losing any of those five. I’d hang on to Buxton even with the injuries.

There really are no blue chip arms any more. The clubs coddle them to much and won’t let them learn to pitch.

As a note, Vanderbilt had 2 stud pitchers who at one time were favored to go 1 & 2 in this years draft. They both lost winner take all games in the college World Series this year.

Throw out this pitch count nonsense and let these guys figure the game out.

Dutchboy wrote:

I have no problem with guys like Donaldson who want to play. Apply Cruz’s $14 million towards Donaldsons deal and replace Cruz with a minimum wage guy.

Minimum wage guy that is batting 310 18hr 45RBI and 996 OPS? Good luck.

They should blow it up as the only chance they have at getting pitching is blowing it up.

However in Twins fashion they will sign some 2nd 3rd tier guys and sell hope of a stronger pitching staff.

“They should blow it up as the only chance they have at getting pitching is blowing it up.”

X2

This time rebuild towards pitching, pitching, pitching… load up pitching prospects until you have too many. Win more games and/or be on the other side of the bargaining table at the trade deadline for once.

Need to blow up the front office, pretty clear they haven’t delivered on what was promised. Would be even better if you could cut those sitting in the owner’s box, but I digress…

BigWerm wrote:

Need to blow up the front office, pretty clear they haven’t delivered on what was promised. Would be even better if you could cut those sitting in the owner’s box, but I digress…

Careful what you ask for. You could end up with something like the Wolves are headed towards. Even though they are bankers, they are several tiers of scum above what A-Fraud is.

Dutchboy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
Need to blow up the front office, pretty clear they haven’t delivered on what was promised. Would be even better if you could cut those sitting in the owner’s box, but I digress…

Careful what you ask for. You could end up with something like the Wolves are headed towards. Even though they are bankers, they are several tiers of scum above what A-Fraud is.

I’d take my chances. If it weren’t for Glen Taylor’s epic failures as owner, the Pohlad kids would be setting new lows. The both of them are in the bottom 10% of all sports owners across the major 4 leagues imho.

You obviously are to young for the Griffith regime.

Dutchboy wrote:

You obviously are to young for the Griffith regime.

Yeah I was 2 when he sold, but that was an entirely different world than now. Owner’s should be compared to current owners. Even the Pohlad kids were only 30 and 31 then.

Old time story about Calvin Griffith… Dutch is about my age and might remember –

There was camper’s weekend in the parking lot of the old Met stadium. Calvin didn’t sleep there but had a trailer he’d visit and mingle with the fans. Friend of mine was about 10 at the time and went up to knock on Calvin’s trailer door… at about the same time Calvin came out, and the door smacked my friend in the head. They all laughed, but Calvin joked my friend better not sue him.

Funniest thing my friend remembers was that Calvin was drinking a pop at the time – ELF POP. This showed how cheap old Cal was… Elf Pop was about 5 cents a can compared to most sodas that were a quarter back then. You couldn’t give the stuff away…

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