Twins 2021

Too bad Kepler has been hurt. The emergence of Kiriloff/Larnach make Max very expendable. Unfortunately, his trade value has dipped along with his health.

If the Twins go rebuild/youth movement, might as well start dealing ahead of the deadline. Hate to see him go, but Cruz might bring some good prospects. No one is untouchable if it means getting real MLB-level arms, which we obviously don’t have.

Broken record, but this squad needs pitching, pitching, pitching… start there and add elite-level defense second, then power bats third. Twins are backwards in that equation ~

Dutchboy wrote:

The Twinks are so pathetic that the Athletic guys (sorry forgot their names) are writing about the next crop of prospects in A & AA ball. No kidding. One even got called up to St. Paul. My guess is that kid is in a Twins uniform within two weeks and Rocco can set about destroying him also.

At least I see Kirilloff is playing now. Saw Arreaz was back also. They need China Doll, Cave or Kepler back so that kid playing center (or trying to) can get sent back to the independent league or wherever they found him.

Truth! And it’s only June. I think it’s Gleeman? Poor guy just got that gig and there is nothing to write about but silver linings.

I’m not done with Maeda yet. I don’t think the injuries are why he was pitching poorly, but his last outing started out the same but over the last three innings he found his command and was looking pretty good. Struck out 7 or 8 in four innings before another Baldelli Blunder taking him out after four instead of letting him pitch 5, letting Ferrel blow the lead.

The rest have certainly been big time losses. They have definitely gone from looking like capable leaders to needing to get something right and soon.

eyeguy507 wrote:

Truth! And it’s only June. I think it’s Gleeman? Poor guy just got that gig and there is nothing to write about but silver linings.

Poor guy my a$%.

He used to be the only analytic head I could listen to for more than a couple sentences. But even he is painful to listen to now. He’s part of the problem. Just a couple weeks ago he was said Sano takes really good at bats and doesn’t chase pitches…..HUH? Defending Baldelli every chance he gets. Every time he makes a boneheaded decision it’s “well he doesn’t make the roster, he can only play who he’s been given.” Which is true, but to when you consistently trot out your worst three relievers (and now worst ex starter) in important situations you deserve to get blasted.

If he wants something interesting to write ask the leadership crew what they think of Baldelli’s decisions this season.

mahtofire14 wrote:

I’m not done with Maeda yet. I don’t think the injuries are why he was pitching poorly, but his last outing started out the same but over the last three innings he found his command and was looking pretty good. Struck out 7 or 8 in four innings before another Baldelli Blunder taking him out after four instead of letting him pitch 5, letting Ferrel blow the lead.

The rest have certainly been big time losses. They have definitely gone from looking like capable leaders to needing to get something right and soon.

I would hang on to Maeda if for no other reason than he is all you got. I was blasted here many times for saying he was a #3 at best, certainly not a #1. Last year was last year. He is right back to where he was prior to last year. His upside is he is the best starter they have considering you never know what Berrios is trotting out to the mound. Keep Maeda and make EVERY other pitcher other than Rodgers trade bait. There isn’t anybody down there who will still be standing by seasons end.

Dutchboy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
I’m not done with Maeda yet. I don’t think the injuries are why he was pitching poorly, but his last outing started out the same but over the last three innings he found his command and was looking pretty good. Struck out 7 or 8 in four innings before another Baldelli Blunder taking him out after four instead of letting him pitch 5, letting Ferrel blow the lead.

The rest have certainly been big time losses. They have definitely gone from looking like capable leaders to needing to get something right and soon.

I would hang on to Maeda if for no other reason than he is all you got. I was blasted here many times for saying he was a #3 at best, certainly not a #1. Last year was last year. He is right back to where he was prior to last year. His upside is he is the best starter they have considering you never know what Berrios is trotting out to the mound. Keep Maeda and make EVERY other pitcher other than Rodgers trade bait. There isn’t anybody down there who will still be standing by seasons end.

I’m hoping this “reset” for him will get him right. Hoping being the key word, not sure if it really will.

Throw Rogers in with the rest of em. He’s only slightly better than average right now and is the only one aside from maybe Robles that will get you more than a bucket of batting practice balls.

This instant replay in baseball is a joke. Toronto just got blatently robbed against the Yankees. Just do away with it and save the embarrassment.

Donaldson headed to the IR…The calf this time……Stick a fork in him.

In other news, this Ober kid might give us a solid rotation arm.

I’m sitting here watching with the sound off. Trying to figure out who is playing where. It truly has turned ugly in Twinks land.

Yep, now Simmons out of the game. It’s just comical how many injuries this team “apparently” have…..

Here we go again…..Freaking kid has an opportunity to get a win and Baldumbass takes him out after 4 innings of one hit ball and around 70 pitches. Somebody fire this idiot already.

If I was a player on this team I would be awful pissed off by his coaching.

Whoever ok’d them taking Ober out after 4 innings with a 7-0 lead should be fired. Deny the kid a big league win when he wasn’t in trouble one time the whole game.

This is whats wrong with baseball.

They should have taken him out when they did. We need all the wins we can get and with our rock solid bullpen it was the right move. Makes no sense let the kid get the win. I agree Baldelli need to go.

JEREMY wrote:

They should have taken him out when they did. We need all the wins we can get and with our rock solid bullpen it was the right move. Makes no sense let the kid get the win. I agree Baldelli need to go.

The thing that drives me crazy about Baldelli is he says one thing to cover his butt in the media but then the next day he does the complete opposite. Take Rogers for example. The other night when he took Rogers out after one batter and let the bullpen implode after he said he did it to preserve Rogers arm. Fast forward to last night he brings him into a game that was already won and meaningless.

The guy has no clue what he’s doing.

OK, can we bury the thought that Berrios is anything other than a #2.

He was spotted a 3-0 lead in the top of the first against one of the worse teams in the AL. He responds by giving up 2 in the bottom of the inning. He currantly has 2 on, two out, and has thrown 55 pitches in the bottom of 2.

Back to rasslin for me.

So confusing. Ober throws 63 pitches and gets yanked while in complete control. Happ is over 100 and missing all over the place and still in there.

Back to rasslin.

Buxtons out again. Got hit square on the hand with a pitch.

Worst luck I’ve ever seen. Had no chance with that one.

Count me in the camp that likes watching inter-league baseball. New teams, new players. So tired of watching AL Central teams – Detroit, Cleveland, KC just plain boring..

FryDog62 wrote:

Count me in the camp that likes watching inter-league baseball. New teams, new players. So tired of watching AL Central teams – Detroit, Cleveland, KC just plain boring..

I’m the opposite. I don’t like seeing the NL teams until the World Series. With all the baseball available on TV I can see all the NL teams I want. Dodgers vs Padres is becoming as common as Yankees vs Red Sox.

Honest question. How do you watch or care once a team has been eliminated from postseason play?? Goes for all sports for me.

But the NL inter-divisional stuff is same teams, same matchups too. Not as fun to watch for me when it gets repetitive. Plus I think because they all beat each other up so much, the analytics and over thinking goes on in an effort to outsmart a common foe and the game slows down too much. It becomes more of a 4 hour long chess match, or like watching golf… ugh

Just let ‘em use the DH in either park too in inter-league play…

Guess I’m just not a baseball purist… but they’ve got to do something to keep the pace moving and make the game more entertaining IMO… After us baby boomers that grew up watching/playing baseball are gone, very few will follow the game anymore. Analytics, stubborn rules, longer games and a slower pace are killing America’s past time.

lindyrig79 wrote:

Honest question. How do you watch or care once a team has been eliminated from postseason play?? Goes for all sports for me.

For me it’s the sport. In this case baseball. I’ll watch almost any teams play. I root for the Twins, Cardinals, Cubs and sometimes the Giants. Iit’s easier to watch when they are playing well but, baseball is baseball.

I never watch basketball or soccer. Hardly watch hockey. And only watch the Vikings because it’s once a week.

Broken hand for Buxton. Out 1-2 months. I feel sorry for the kid on this one. Nothing he could do.

Silver lining is that the extra time off may allow the nagging hip and hammy strains to properly heal. Downside is the 12 game gap between Twins and White Sox will likely widen now. No repeat of 2006 for anyone still holding hope..

Time for a LARGE broom, start cleaning house.

I almost through my phone across the room when he brought Shoemaker in. But holy crap was his splitter filthy last night. Where has that been all season?

Buxton just can’t buy any luck. At least now he looks like he can come back and contribute right away. Probably be end of July before he’s back though.

I don’t think they need to totally rebuild except for the bullpen. They have to decide whether they want to bring back Buxton or Berrios and both will be getting $100+ million contracts on the open market. It’ll be an important offseason.

The White Sux are missing 3 of their main players and the Twinks are still 12 games back.

I like the hustle Arreaz brings, both Garver & Jeffers are OK. Donaldson because of the contract needs to stay. The rest of the position players I’m listening to offers.

As far as pitchers go, i’d listen on all of them. I’d be hesitent on dealing Rogers, Duffy, Robles from the pen. I’d listen on all the starters. In the Twins world they are 4 inning guys anyway.

Don’t confuse listening with trading. I wouldn’t give them away, but I sure would listen. KC & Detroit are both getting better. Cleveland still has that pitching. Standing pat in this division will get you run over.

Unfortunately can’t trade Donaldson because of the contract and injuries. May be the worst signing in Twins history before its over. Will hamstring them from signing the top-level players that they either need to keep or to finally sign a front of the rotation starter(s) to ever seriously contend. Pitching, pitching, pitching… and instead we got an expensive, over the hill, injury prone guy.

Honestly, should have kept Eduardo Escobar – might be the best 3rd baseman the Twins ever had/lost… and would have been relatively cheap freeing up money to get what the Twins really need most. Pitching, pitching, pitching (broken record I know, but I stand by it).

I agree 100% with Escobar.