Twins 2020

Ripjiggen wrote:

Not sure how it was unlikely they lose game two if Polanco bunts but maybe your Mac computer told you that.

Nope, just a little common sense is all it took in that situation. My mac computer is usually only used to prove peoples personal opinions wrong with factual information. Like numbers and such.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Yeah maybe not the time to bunt when a guy is 3 for 3 in a 7 inning game you may let him swing away in that situation. Doesn’t take a computer to tell you a guy is swinging the bat well that game. Can kind of see that one with your own eye.

I’m well aware. Thats why I said it in the first place

Ripjiggen wrote:

I mean the turtle lined out to second not sure of the exit velocity but it had to be hard enough that it was a 500-600 average in most cases.

Very soft lineout, exit velocity was just 62 mph. Launch angle 21 degrees with an estimated distance of 163 ft. Expecting batting average was .530 though. Didnt hit it hard but more often than not that was a two RBI single

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Apparently the umps don’t know what a ground rule double is anymore

I guess if the ball lands on the field and bounces off the limestone wall it’s still in play… meanwhile Rizario is just standing there watching the ball thinking it’s a ground rule double also while Detroit is scoring runs

tbro16 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>
Not sure how it was unlikely they lose game two if Polanco bunts but maybe your Mac computer told you that.

Nope, just a little common sense is all it took in that situation. My mac computer is usually only used to prove peoples personal opinions wrong with factual information. Like numbers and such.

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ripjiggen wrote:</div>

Um yeah ok

Tbro, I’ve said this numerous times. I admit that analytics provides factual information and common sense approaches. My issue with it is it misses out on just as much common sense strategy that would end/win games in much simpler and quicker fashion. Also without using up your entire bench and/or bullpen over 1.2 innings.

As for Polanco, sure maybe he isn’t the WORST on the team. But if you watch some of his bunt attempts in ANY situation, even an analytics guy that only watches the numbers and not the games can see how bad he is.

Wait…..was that a bunt that scored a run today? Who knew that was even possible anymore.

I wish more people bunted to beat the shift. They could completely get rid of the shifting for every stupid at bat. I would be very happy to see that as well.

MORE BUNTING, MORE BUNTING, MORE BUNTING!!!!!!!

mahtofire14 wrote:

I wish more people bunted to beat the shift. They could completely get rid of the shifting for every stupid at bat. I would be very happy to see that as well.

MORE BUNTING, MORE BUNTING, MORE BUNTING!!!!!!!

x2 especially on the shift. Not sure how many Amateur State Championships were won by bunting, but it’s a lot!

Holy smokes Donaldson is making up for the time he missed. He’s hot!

magic number at 9!

as we sit, they would get 4th seed which doesn’t matter in reality since they will be in a bubble. looks like we have our ace with Kenta. I like this teams chances, just got to stay healthy.

Twins on Fox tonight (regular TV)!!!

La Tortuga!!!!!!

First game I have seen in close to two months. Treated to 5 dingers and an overall good effort against the Tribe. Very nice, Go Twins!

Getting into a little bit of a groove now. One game back of the Sox and playing them tonight! Hopefully Berrios is still pitching like his old self.

been a while. good to see this thread is still basically pete and tbro arguing about analytics

let’s hope the Twins can keep things rolling this series and put themselves in first

moustachesteve wrote:

been a while. good to see this thread is still basically pete and tbro arguing about analytics

It’d either be that or Dutch doing play by play on the fat kid eating meals…..

Hey, speaking of the fat kid. Game one of a big series. Absolute flamethrower going for the White Sux. Where is he? Rosario?

He hurt his neck turning to grab his burger from the drive through window.

Dutchboy wrote:

Where is he? Rosario?

I think Rocco has an issue with playing their supposed to be normal lineup more then 1 day in a row. I dont care if Sano is 4 for his last 20 hes better then Wade Jr at first. Cruz left 11 guys on base himself. Whats up with that? I fell asleep in the 9th guessing Mr. Rogers laid an egg again.

Rosario collided with Buxton last game against Cleveland and hurt his arm a little. Sano has a sore neck from the last game in Cleveland. So both were on the bench healing.

They really do not have much to play for at this point. Winning the division is not that big of a deal in this years playoff format. They are in the playoffs most likely the 4 seed which gives them home field in the first round. Will probably play Toronto or drum roll….the Yankees.

JEREMY wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
Where is he? Rosario?

I think Rocco has an issue with playing their supposed to be normal lineup more then 1 day in a row. I dont care if Sano is 4 for his last 20 hes better then Wade Jr at first. Cruz left 11 guys on base himself. Whats up with that? I fell asleep in the 9th guessing Mr. Rogers laid an egg again.

You must’ve fell asleep in the eighth cuz Rogers blew it that inning.

I hate the thought of a lefty closer in general. it’s time to see if Alcala, Wisler, May or Romo can do a better job. doubt it will happen because Rocco is too worried he may hurt someone’s feelings.

Duffey. I don’t understand why no one is mentioning Duffey. He is their best reliever and has everything a closer needs. Even the so called “experts” haven’t even mentioned his name. Throws mid-high 90s and has a devastation curveball. I don’t know how Romo gets through an inning honestly. Blows my mind. May has the stuff but his location is even worse than Rogers’ right now. Alcala would be good once he gets his feet wet.

Agree. May has given up to many homers this year to be your closer. I think they are afraid to move Duffey there because he is usually one of the first they bring in to get them out of a situation. I think if they stick with Rogers it will cost them in the playoffs. Romo is a two pitch wonder but has been doing it at a high level for a lot of years.

At this point Romo is the Rich Hill of relievers. Mostly throws the slowest curveball on the planet and mixes in an 87 mph fastball every now and then. All you have to do against these guys is sit on the curve until they miss. If it starts down the middle don’t swing because you know it’ll break off the plate.

But then again, analytics probably say that’s not the right strategy which is why they are both still moderately effective.

Have I mentioned I hate the shifting? Another 3 hits and a run given up because we have NO ONE on the right side of the field. All three would’ve been outs with conventional positioning…..

Would you hate it less if they hit it 3 times between second and 1st without the shift?

If you are shifting vs. a righty, why would you pitch away? 90% of contact will put the ball in play away from the shift.

Sox are hot right now. We all knew this was a dangerous team in a shortened season.

eyeguy507 wrote:

If you are shifting vs. a righty, why would you pitch away? 90% of contact will put the ball in play away from the shift.

That’s exactly my issue with the Twins shifting. They don’t have pitchers that consistently locate pitches well enough to make the shift effective. Dobnak couldn’t hit a 55 gallon drum tonight let along the inside corner. I counted 4 hits tonight that would’ve been outs with regular positioning. And that was before I stopped watching in the 5th inning. That’s why you still need old school people in the game, because they are not teaching basic fundamentals anymore and it shows BIG TIME.

PS…Dobnak needs to Uber himself right back to AAA….

eyeguy507 wrote:

I hate the thought of a lefty closer in general

mahtofire14 wrote:

Duffey. I don’t understand why no one is mentioning Duffey. He is their best reliever and has everything a closer needs.

Can agree with all of the above. What I don’t understand, is why does there need to be ONE guy that is in for the close in EVERY situation? Every other bullpen decision is based on matchups, how come the most important one isn’t?

CHW has been awesome vs lefties this year, best in the league. Milwaukee has been top ten and even the Pirates are above average vs lefties. Rogers gave up runs to each of those teams listed. Twins bullpen is too good and too deep to be forcing the hand with Rogers in situations he is set up to fail in.