Well don’t give up yet. With the addition of Price it’s only a matter of time until the Dodgers make a move. Maybe they circle back for a position player from the Twinks. If not it won’t hurt the Twinks chances in the central anyway.
I still think the Twins win the division, don’t get me wrong, but when 60% of your games the first 2-3 months of the season are being started by either Bailey or Dobnak/Smeltzer/Thorpe I think theres a bit of a reason for concern. Maeda wasn’t going to light the world on fire but he would have likely been just as productive as Odo and possibly Berrios. Its a damn shame and I really hope the Twins somehow stay in this deal without doing something stupid.
Typically you have a bunch of off days and postponements early in the season. While I don’t think Odorizzi has the season he had last year they might be able to bash their way to some wins if the injury bug doesn’t bite them. Still time to patch some things together.
welcome back BG. i will be happy to see him throw hard and build up his trade value…… higher than a mid rotation arm. i would tell Boston to suck sand, they aint getting nothing!
Looks like the Twins have Maeda…again?
Essentially the same deal with the dodgers, just swapping some money, a pick, and a lower level prospect. But don’t hold your breathe, they’re in the “pending medical reviews” phase of the trade process 😬
I’m glad we ended up finally getting Maeda. I don’t like the fact that they made us give them another pretty high prospect. Luke Raley is a really nice player. The only thing I’m glad about is that he is behind a TON of even better outfielders already on the big league team and in the system.
Graterol has been pitching fine in pre-spring training sessions as of this week, so he’ll pass any physical…
Graterol has been pitching fine in pre-spring training sessions as of this week, so he’ll pass any physical…
I doesn’t sound like there was any question of him PASSING a physical. What I gathered is the Red Sox thought he could be a starter THIS year. Then they saw he hadn’t fully come back from his previous injuries in a way that he could start this year. That’s why they wanted more. But that’s on them and I don’t see how they can just all of a sudden ask for more after agreeing.
We all argue back and forth over new age vs. old school baseball until we are blue in the face.
But can we all agree that this seems like a terrible idea?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28673912/mlb-weighing-major-changes-postseason-including-growing-number-teams-14
I hope the Twins make it to the world series under that plan, so everyone can enjoy baseball the way it was meant to be played, in November, outside, in Minneapolis.
We all argue back and forth over new age vs. old school baseball until we are blue in the face.
But can we all agree that this seems like a terrible idea?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28673912/mlb-weighing-major-changes-postseason-including-growing-number-teams-14I hope the Twins make it to the world series under that plan, so everyone can enjoy baseball the way it was meant to be played, in November, outside, in Minneapolis.
Oh man, I just read that like an hour ago. Pick your own opponent? What is this the NBA All Star Game? Good lord. Stop trying to please the 10 second attention span of millenials (although it will ultimately make it more drawn out).
Just a guess but I’m thinking that MLB comes out with this ridiculous playoff format and extended season proposal as 1) a way to get the attention off of the sign stealing scandal in the short term and 2) a negotiation tactic for the upcoming CBA. If they hint at ridiculous intentions now, they can play it off as a concession later if they give it up during negotiations
Nice article in the Tribune today on payroll. Seems with incentives the Twinks payroll could top $150 million. It’s almost certain the opening day payroll will be in the neighborhood of $130 million.
OK Twins faithful………..they set a MLB record for homeruns last year. All year long I gave credit to the ball being juiced. Maybe I was wrong…maybe the Twinks are in this sign stealing stuff also. Are we really to believe the Astros were the only team stealing signs?
Just asking….they bashed a bunch of fastballs last year…..just like they knew what was coming. 
What say you?
OK Twins faithful………..they set a MLB record for homeruns last year. All year long I gave credit to the ball being juiced. Maybe I was wrong…maybe the Twinks are in this sign stealing stuff also. Are we really to believe the Astros were the only team stealing signs?
Just asking….they bashed a bunch of fastballs last year…..just like they knew what was coming.
What say you?
The cement finally fully cured in my opinion………..
I think it was just a collection of almost everyone’s “career year” for home run totals. Everyone will have one year that they hit the most and got a lot of them 2019 might have been it.
We all argue back and forth over new age vs. old school baseball until we are blue in the face.
But can we all agree that this seems like a terrible idea?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28673912/mlb-weighing-major-changes-postseason-including-growing-number-teams-14I hope the Twins make it to the world series under that plan, so everyone can enjoy baseball the way it was meant to be played, in November, outside, in Minneapolis.
I agree this is a terrible idea.
However, the MLB has to try and do something. Sure a lot of us enjoy baseball for what it is now and has been, but the long term statistics show a lost interest in the MLB as a whole. World Series ratings in the last decade have been a fraction of what they were earlier. League wide attendance is down. The instant gratification of today’s world coupled with a demand for action and flare really make baseball a tough sell to some of the younger audiences. I loved to play the game and even listen on the radio, but it’s become very rare that I’ll dedicate more than a passing moment to turning it on the TV.
I’m not saying the MLB is dying, but a few of these proposed wrinkles may be thrown out to get the dialogue going for some sort of changes to generate interest.
We’ll Dutch looks like we have answers to any Twins players being in the Top 100 in the game. They just released 60-100 and there are 4 Twins on the list already!
Kepler- 72
Polanco- 88
Garver- 89
Sano- 100
We all know how ridiculous lists can be but nice to see some Twins getting some recognition after a big year. Not sure I agree with all of them yet but something else to talk about.
Nice article in the Tribune today on payroll. Seems with incentives the Twinks payroll could top $150 million. It’s almost certain the opening day payroll will be in the neighborhood of $130 million.
I think the Twins should be commended for having a good offseason, and making a slightly larger investment in putting a quality product out. But again Payroll should be looked at in the context of Revenue, and while I couldn’t find the 2019 #, in 2018 the Twins got $118m in Revenue sharing (which they also contribute 48% of local revenue to the pot). So they have 52% of local revenue to pay other expenses and player payroll above $118m (conservatively assuming that # hasn’t increased). So I think it’s safe to assume the highest paid Twins employee is still the Pohlad’s on top of the Franchise appreciating in value, while we subsidize their stadiumS.
Strib Article: http://www.startribune.com/in-final-piece-of-graterol-maeda-deal-twins-get-class-a-catcher/567745652/
2018 Revenue #: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Revenue_sharing
OK Twins faithful………..they set a MLB record for homeruns last year. All year long I gave credit to the ball being juiced. Maybe I was wrong…maybe the Twinks are in this sign stealing stuff also. Are we really to believe the Astros were the only team stealing signs?
Just asking….they bashed a bunch of fastballs last year…..just like they knew what was coming.
What say you?
Their road record disproves this theory.
I don’t think anybody can honestly say they don’t think about it in the back of their mind now… too bad…
You guys are literally insane, it will be the exact same process as always and the same results. The Twins will be in on a few of the bigger name Free Agents, “barely” lose out and sign a few guys off the scrap heap to make it look like they are trying. If this year didn’t teach you they have no intention of doing what it takes to take the next step, no year will. Join me in boycotting all things Twins until there is new ownership, life is much easier and less stressful!
First Bigwerm was calling us fans “literally insane” for thinking the Twins ownership and front office would bring in free agents to help improve the team. Now that he has been proven wrong, hes switched his story. Now hes upset that the Pohlads are trying to turn a profit with the franchise 
Looks like hes finally come to the good side though. Its like hes trying to do some analytics himself with all those numbers and percentages hes talking about!
Why?
Because the public paid for Target Field, and gave them huge TIF on Allianz Field, resulting in over a billion dollar subsidy for billionaires that said they needed it to compete. So expecting them to reinvest the revenue generated from these subsidies was the deal, just asking them to hold up their end.
Isn’t every owner the highest paid employee? In every company for that matter. That’s why they are owners.
No, a lot of owners invest more into their product than they pocket themselves in a lot of businesses, sports in particular. Mike Ilitch not only financed 60% of the Tigers stadium, he reinvested the revenue generated into the team which resulted 2 trips to the WS (winning one) and small market Detroit Tigers were valued as the 22nd most valuable franchise in 2005 across ALL sports.
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You guys are literally insane, it will be the exact same process as always and the same results. The Twins will be in on a few of the bigger name Free Agents, “barely” lose out and sign a few guys off the scrap heap to make it look like they are trying. If this year didn’t teach you they have no intention of doing what it takes to take the next step, no year will. Join me in boycotting all things Twins until there is new ownership, life is much easier and less stressful!First Bigwerm was calling us fans “literally insane” for thinking the Twins ownership and front office would bring in free agents to help improve the team. Now that he has been proven wrong, hes switched his story. Now hes upset that the Pohlads are trying to turn a profit with the franchise
Looks like hes finally come to the good side though. Its like hes trying to do some analytics himself with all those numbers and percentages hes talking about!
I’ll wait for the list of bigger name free agents (plural) the Twins have signed. Pretty sure it’s just Donaldson (which I commended them for), ever. Story has been the same for years TBro, we should expect significant investment of revenue in the on-field product from Billionaires who get billions of public subsidy. Not that crazy of a concept imo. As for the rest of your garbage, keep your trolling to Twitter and analytics sub-Reddits, and I’ll keep mine to fishing.
It wouldn’t matter if they signed Scherzer, Strasburg & Trout you would still grind the same old tired “billionaire” line.
Just ignore baseball it will be better for your blood pressure.
It wouldn’t matter if they signed Scherzer, Strasburg & Trout you would still grind the same old tired “billionaire” line.
Just ignore baseball it will be better for your blood pressure.
I love baseball, and played amateur ball until my shoulder literally fell off and needed to get a shoulder replacement. The reason why I continually post, is because of my love of baseball as well as the Twins, that’s tough to shut off when they won it all twice in your formative years. But I also lived thru the late 90’s and was a partial season ticket holder for the first 3 years of Target Field, and the Pohlad’s are just reaping what they sow imo.
Reinvesting is one thing being the highest paid employee is another which is what you said originally.
Ilitch took no ($0) annual payment from the team’s revenue and reinvested it all into the team, he wanted to win and knew his asset was appreciating. For the record I’m not asking the Pohlad’s to do that (although I’m sure they could financially, and just take the base salary of their executive board positions), I’m just asking them to put a larger percentage of the revenue back into the team. They generally have been paying the Twins salary with other teams money thru Revenue Sharing. And had they built the stadium themselves I wouldn’t have an issue with that either, but again when you take billion+ in public subsidy, the public should hold them accountable.
Werm – It doesn’t invalidate your overall point but isn’t it pretty well documented that Ilitch was willing to throw absurd money toward chasing a WS title just so that he could see it before he died? That’s certainly not the business strategy that made him billion$ so to point to DET as a counterexample is a little unfair.
I like the direction the Twins are currently going/trending. I hope the Pohlad’s step up to the plate while our WS window is “open”. Looks like they are on board with that currently. I also understand it is a business to them.
Werm – It doesn’t invalidate your overall point but isn’t it pretty well documented that Ilitch was willing to throw absurd money toward chasing a WS title just so that he could see it before he died? That’s certainly not the business strategy that made him billion$ so to point to DET as a counterexample is a little unfair.
That is true, I picked them since they are a similar market, but there are plenty of teams that do or have done the same. Marlins WS teams, the Yankees under Steinbrenner regularly put all revenue back into the team, most of the teams paying the Luxury tax do. Point is it’s not unheard of or even uncommon, and again that’s not what I’m asking for, just a larger percentage than they currently are and have been.
Anyway back to baseball, I’m excited to watch this lineup mash again. Hope they found a gem in Maeda, but still wish they had addressed the top end of the rotation in Free agency or trade.
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