Twins 2019

  • mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1837928

    So his OPS+ of 129 in the 2nd half of last year doesn’t count? What about when it was 146 in 2017? Does that not count either? Must have just been lucky. He’s an above average (switch) hitter and plays 6 positions well in the field.

    And an average major league hitter is an upgrade for this lineup….even though I also think Gonzalez is an above average hitter.

    knoppers
    big lake, backus
    Posts: 65
    #1837947

    my guess he will play 3rd base, I don’t think sano will make the team out of spring training.

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1838087

    All this Sano hatred sound like what was being said about David Ortiz when he was here. Look how that panned out. I think Sano has an excellent chance of erupting this season with the new management and informal leadership structure of this team. He came to camp in great shape, and I don’t think he’d even be allowed to lolly-gag around like he has in the past. Cruz is known for putting a foot in the who-know-what of younger players. No joke, the Twins could be a sneaky good team this year. Wildcard contenders or a 90-game division winner is my prediction. Most exciting Twins team in the last 5 years, at least.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1838124

    They were in the wild card 2 years ago so lets not make them out to be the worse team in baseball.

    Ortiz was released by the Twins and every team had a chance to grab him, so lets not make him out to be a known superstar who the Twins gave away. The Red Sox had no idea what they were getting. Don’t forget he also was linked to steroids.

    If Sano wants to go back home and live the rest of his life on his signing bonus he sure can. All he has to do is continue eating his way out of baseball. Should he decide to pursue that multi million dollar deal in 4 years he can buckle down and make himself into a ball player.

    It has and will continue to come down to Buxton, Sano & pitching as to what they do this year.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1838164

    HR and 5 RBI for Buxton yesterday and 2 HR for Kepler today……

    WE’RE COMING!!!!! WORLD SERIES RUN!!!!!!! rotflol rotflol rotflol

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1838627

    Buxton now is 5/5 with 2 dingers and 10 RBI in the first 2 games. This could get interesting. . .

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1838777

    Buxton now is 5/5 with 2 dingers and 10 RBI in the first 2 games. This could get interesting. . .

    I’d love to get excited about it but until he’s hitting .280 with 5 dingers in May I can’t believe it.

    Remember how Aaron Hicks used to hit .300 and 10 bombs every spring training and then hit 197 for the first two months of the year?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1838779

    There are guys throwing fish in Seattle with better arms then the first 2 spring training games have.

    That sad if Buxton or the fat kid flop again this year the Twinks should have better depth.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1839021

    In the notes section of the Tribune today they said the fat kid had lost 24lbs this off season. coffee I guess next week we will see.

    tbro16
    Inactive
    St Paul
    Posts: 1170
    #1839082

    fat kid had lost 24lbs this off season.

    Skinny, always hurt kid gained 21 lbs of muscle this offseason too. Maybe our “cant miss” prospects are finally ready to show something

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839083

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    fat kid had lost 24lbs this off season.

    Skinny, always hurt kid gained 21 lbs of muscle this offseason too. Maybe our “cant miss” prospects are finally ready to show something

    I’ve got a lot more confidence that Buxton will succeed than Sano. I hope both do. The offense could be pretty fun to watch this year. Let’s hope the pitching doesn’t get in the way.

    EW6
    Posts: 150
    #1839085

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bass Thumb wrote:</div>
    Buxton now is 5/5 with 2 dingers and 10 RBI in the first 2 games. This could get interesting. . .

    I’d love to get excited about it but until he’s hitting .280 with 5 dingers in May I can’t believe it.

    Remember how Aaron Hicks used to hit .300 and 10 bombs every spring training and then hit 197 for the first two months of the year?

    Interesting you bring up Aaron Hicks. Check out his stats from the last 2 years. A semi-cautionary tale that no matter how bad Buxton is over the next year or two, the Twins shouldn’t give up and trade him for some minor leaguer with no upside for as long as they can. I won’t claim to how the minor league options work, but I’d hold on to him in the minors until he’s 30 just in case, rather than let him go just to figure it out with someone else.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
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    #1839091

    Both the club and the player need to have things figured out before he becomes arbitration eligible.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839100

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bass Thumb wrote:</div>
    Buxton now is 5/5 with 2 dingers and 10 RBI in the first 2 games. This could get interesting. . .

    I’d love to get excited about it but until he’s hitting .280 with 5 dingers in May I can’t believe it.

    Remember how Aaron Hicks used to hit .300 and 10 bombs every spring training and then hit 197 for the first two months of the year?

    Interesting you bring up Aaron Hicks. Check out his stats from the last 2 years. A semi-cautionary tale that no matter how bad Buxton is over the next year or two, the Twins shouldn’t give up and trade him for some minor leaguer with no upside for as long as they can. I won’t claim to how the minor league options work, but I’d hold on to him in the minors until he’s 30 just in case, rather than let him go just to figure it out with someone else.

    I brought up Hicks to caution people on looking into hot spring training stats. Obviously he has been very good for the Yankees. However, I don’t think he gets to where he’s at if he stays in the Twins organization.

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1839240

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bass Thumb wrote:</div>
    Buxton now is 5/5 with 2 dingers and 10 RBI in the first 2 games. This could get interesting. . .

    I’d love to get excited about it but until he’s hitting .280 with 5 dingers in May I can’t believe it.

    Remember how Aaron Hicks used to hit .300 and 10 bombs every spring training and then hit 197 for the first two months of the year?

    Interesting you bring up Aaron Hicks. Check out his stats from the last 2 years. A semi-cautionary tale that no matter how bad Buxton is over the next year or two, the Twins shouldn’t give up and trade him for some minor leaguer with no upside for as long as they can. I won’t claim to how the minor league options work, but I’d hold on to him in the minors until he’s 30 just in case, rather than let him go just to figure it out with someone else.

    You can either look at this as a cautionary tale on giving up on a player too early, or you can look at is as an indictment on the Twins ability to develop young talent.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1839244

    There isn’t one Twins fan who ever thought Hicks would be more than a 4th outfielder.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1839290

    Harper signs a 13 year $330 million dollar deal so we can put that silly idea to bed.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839327

    Harper signs a 13 year $330 million dollar deal so we can put that silly idea to bed.

    Can’t believe anyone would want that burden after FINALLY getting Mauer’s contract off the books. How quickly they forget.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3784
    #1839396

    Mauer’s contract did nothing to hold the Twins back. Ownership not caring enough to put quality players around him held the Twins back.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839400

    It did enough……Look at all the bats we’ve signed this offseason after he came off the books. Should be signing two more arms too.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
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    #1839402

    It’s true, they are spending some of what he made, but I believe they’re still likely to come in lower than last year’s payroll. And the only thing stopping the Pohlads from adding quality players around Mauer to make a playoff run was themselves.

    I imagine a city and ownership group like they have in Philly is not content with merely having a star player exist on their team like the Twins were with Mauer. At some point over that 13-year contract I’m sure they’ll get some other key players to make a run. And if they win one championship, hell if they even make a WS in the next 13 years, as I Twins fan I’d say it’s worth it, cause it’s more than I’ve seen in my adult life.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839418

    It’s true, they are spending some of what he made, but I believe they’re still likely to come in lower than last year’s payroll. And the only thing stopping the Pohlads from adding quality players around Mauer to make a playoff run was themselves.

    I imagine a city and ownership group like they have in Philly is not content with merely having a star player exist on their team like the Twins were with Mauer. At some point over that 13-year contract I’m sure they’ll get some other key players to make a run. And if they win one championship, hell if they even make a WS in the next 13 years, as I Twins fan I’d say it’s worth it, cause it’s more than I’ve seen in my adult life.

    I don’t disagree with you Dan. Pohlads are definitely part of the problem. But under the “Pohlad Budget” the team can do a lot more things with the lineup now that Mauer’s contract isn’t there anymore.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
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    #1839424

    You’re right, and it’s interesting, because of how the pocket-book holders run their teams, how Mauer’s contract will affect a team differently than Harper’s new $330 million/13-yr. contract.

    I realize that with that amount of money and years there’s gotta be A TON of language in that deal, possibly up to and including the types of bubble gum in the dugout. But both Harper and Machado got huge contracts, so I wonder what took all offseason?

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1839430

    Philly already took a big step forward before they signed Harper. Realmuto, McCutchen, Jean Segura and David Robertson, all signed before Harper. They spaced his contract out long enough so that they SHOULD have room to sign some starting pitching down the road and really make a run. But they are going to be a good team this year.

    Personally I don’t think Harper wanted to end up in Philly. But the deal was just too good. He’s going to get boo’ed A LOT every few weeks when he goes back to DC.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #1839431

    What took all off season was Boras finding somebody to bid against the Phillies. Once he had commitments from the Giants & Dodgers it was a matter of getting the length of contract Harper wanted.

    His deal with Washington had more deferred money than Harper wanted. The Phillies is all paid during the 13 years.

    Only thing to remember about the Pohlads is they are bankers first, second & third. They will never change.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1840494

    Saw this coming from a mile away. It’s every year with this guy……be shocked if he plays 60 games this year.

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    Dan
    Southeast MN
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    #1840512

    Geez that took a turn for the worse!

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3784
    #1840514

    BTW that looks like a screen grab from Twitter, is Phil Miller a good follow? I try and minimize who I follow so I don’t get the same information from dozens of different people. The only Twins reporter I follow is Lavelle E. Neal, who in my opinion should change his name to Lavelle E. Pohlad…he’s a bigtime protector of the ownership and not objective at all. Wondering if Miller would be better.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #1840552

    BTW that looks like a screen grab from Twitter, is Phil Miller a good follow? I try and minimize who I follow so I don’t get the same information from dozens of different people. The only Twins reporter I follow is Lavelle E. Neal, who in my opinion should change his name to Lavelle E. Pohlad…he’s a bigtime protector of the ownership and not objective at all. Wondering if Miller would be better.

    Well he’s one of the Twins beat writers for the Strib so I think so. His tweets usually are true. And yes, LaVelle is about the worst writer I’ve seen next to Souhan.

    tbro16
    Inactive
    St Paul
    Posts: 1170
    #1840620

    You forgot to mention he can play 3rd for the fat kid.

    Great insurance plan for sano

    Didn’t take long for Dutchboy and I to hit this one on the head jester and again, thank god it’s Gonzalez not Adrianza

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