You’ll see in the lower part of the carb there is a needle valve that is pushed up when the Floats are pushed up. That little needle valve is stuck. It needs to be able to move up and down freely. Fuel will flow out when that needle valve is in the down position. It needs to be cleaned out obviously.
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October 28, 2008 at 3:10 am #719681
Not being a smarta$$ but..is there a closed valve on the fuel line?. This should be an easy fix because it sure sounds like someting it not allowing gas to get to the jets.
October 28, 2008 at 3:27 am #719685Quote:
Not being a smarta$$ but..
Not being a smarta$$ but…….did you put gas in it yet?
Sorry Rootski, couldn’t resist!
Good luck, sounds like Matt has you on the right track!
October 28, 2008 at 10:28 am #719705Since no one is being a smart , I will.
Root, follow the gas line from the bottom of the tank to the carb…looking for a gas line shut off. Most all blowers have one.
If it’s open, use a flashlight to check in side the gas tank for some type of obstruction…I doubt there will be any…but this is a nice way of having you check to ensure there is gas in the tank.
While your in there…press the primer a few times…is there bubbles?
Next look for a fuel line filter. Most blowers don’t have one…but I’m not sure of what your dealing with…so if it does, that’s the next piece to replace.
Lastly, as Mr Grow stated…take off the lower chamber that was dry…and lift the floats up and down a few times. When they are in the down position, fuel should be flowing to fill that chamber.
PS Don’t be having a heater or any other flame going in the garage when your doing this…of course.
October 28, 2008 at 10:55 am #719706
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While your in there…press the primer a few times…is there bubbles?
I’m not sure what you mean….I sure don’t hear anything that sounds like a fluid moving around like you usually do when you hit a primer bulb. The bulb is solid black so I won’t see anything either.
There’s a shutoff on the bottom of the fuel tank, the gas is getting through that point OK and into the hose.
Tonight I want to see if I can get a look at the primer bulb area, to see if I can find any kind of fuel filter or obstruction there. I’m afraid I’m going to have to take a really deep breathe and dig into that carb. And that has me nervous!Thanks for all the help guys.
Rootski
Tom SawvellInactivePosts: 9559October 28, 2008 at 10:55 am #719707Se sure the switch is in the ON position.
Try disconnecting the fuel line at the carb and draining all the gas from the tank. Buy some seafoam additive and treat a gallon of fresh gas with it and fill the tank. Remover the air filter element so you can access the carb throat. Put a bit of treated gas in an old spray bottle, like a windex bottle. Set the sprayer to shoot a stream rather than a mist. Pump four or five sprays directly into the carb. Pull the starter rope afew times and then repat if you don’t get a pop. Try this several times. If nothing happens wait an hour and try it again.
IF you get a pop out of the machine and you can get like a three second run out of it this way, re-prime with the spray bottle, only this time when the engine fires off start pumping the primer bulp rapidly. If you can keep the engine running using that primer bulb, do it for four or five minutes, every once in a while checking to see if it will hold it’s own without the pumping. If it stays running on its own, you have solved the problem….dirty, stale gas causing things to get stuck.
If you get a pop, but no response from pumping the primer, I’d pull the float bowl and check for float drop maually and to clean the bowl out with some gas or solvent and re-assemble and start over. If you still can’t get consistant runs from it, replace the primer bulb and start from point A again. Beyond that and having limited skills or knowlege, take it to a shop.
October 28, 2008 at 1:36 pm #719719I fixed a friends 5Hp Ariens last year and found several issues. The shut off valve was partially plugged starving it for gas. And the primer line had a hole in it that looked like it came from over heating and melted. Couple bucks for some gas line at the autp parts store. Replaced them all and it purred. Just a thought.
October 30, 2008 at 1:39 am #720026Success!
First I’d like to thank you guys for all the helpful suggestions. Once again IDO comes through! I also found some good info on this website:
I took a deep breath and dug into the carburetor. The needle valve connected to the float was clogged. Cleaning that up let the bowl fill with gas, however the thing still wouldn’t start. Then I found that the fitting/bolt thing that holds the bowl on has small holes in it. These were clogged up solid. I cleaned them out, put it all back together and gave it a few pulls. And it roared to life! It ran pretty rough, so I added some Seafoam to the gas and within a few minutees it was purring like a kitten.
An oil change, lubrication, and a little clean up and it’s ready to go to work.
I really appreciate the help. My son-in-law was hurt at work and has a bad back so he really doen’t need to be shoveling snow. This is going to help him quite a bit.
Rootski
October 30, 2008 at 1:47 am #720029Great Rootski Now we have you to thank for the weekly dumping of 6″ of fresh snow…. Quick, go get a snowmobile, that should slow down the snow
big G
April 29, 2013 at 12:23 pm #211603Well our season started off with one of the craziest Weather patterns that I can remember, this late in April. Wednesday we arrived at the blind with snow covered fields and low optimism that birds would be out on the move. Well at 6:30am, they proved us wrong. A Tom and 2 jakes skirted the edge of the field and red pine forest putting on a “Gobbleing and Strutting Show” in response to our calling. Where the field and tree line meet, there was no snow cover, and they continued to strut and pace along that corridor. They would not cross the snow covered alfalfa field to pursue our decoy spread and thus end day #1. We relocated the blind closer to where the 3 birds performed their strutting and gobbling display in hopes of intercepting them the next morning. We had a lone hen come into the decoys and calling and walked within 5 feet of the blind. As she strolled off into the woods, 3 jakes made there way down the field edge just inside the wood line. So they intercepted the path of the hen and the “courtship” began as the 3 Jakes competed to display their affection for Ms. Jenny Hen. It was a very enjoyable 45 minute show. As we headed back to the truck, some 1000yds away, a group of birds picked up our movement and scurried off the adjacent hillside and headed for another tract of Red pines. My Dad and I made a plan to split up and “Run and Gun” after them in hopes of getting a shot. As my Dad come up over a small ridge within the pine grove, he caught movement in the swamp and noticed multiple turkeys meandering below. He then picked up movement under a small pine and watched as a Tom bred a hen, finished and pursued another hen to perform “his duties”. The Birds were just out of gun range, but taking off the safety definitely got the blood flowing for my Dad. Friday evening I went out alone and decided to set up within the Red pine grove where the turkeys ran off in the morning. Without any decoys out this time, I softly called in hopes of coaxing one my way. After a 2 hour sit on the ground, I seen 5 hens enter the field a 1/4 mile away. As they made there way my direction, something spooked them and they would fly 75-100 yards and begin feeding again. This happened 2 or 3 times. It was then that I picked up the movement of a large dark Tom persuing this “hen Harem” across the field. The hens made their way along the field edge some 300 yards in front of me moving right to left. I expected the Tom to follow their path, but he had other plans. He cut off from them and entered the woods, crossed through a marshy hollow and was “locked” onto the purrs and clucks I was producing in the tree line. With the hens out of sight, the Tom entered the meadow and began his Strutting and Gobbling show. He was about 60 yards from me heading in the direction of the previous 5 hens, but still locked on to the position he heard the calling coming from. Too my pleasant surprise, he made a 90 degree turn and walked down the hill and was intent on finding this lone hen. At 25 steps, I let the hammer fall from my Weatherby Pump and filled this head with 3 inches of #5 Winchester. My bird weighed just under 20# with very nice spurs and a extremely thick 10″ beard. To say I was excited was an understatement. My hunt had come to a close.
I just want to make a shout out to the new Flextone “Funky Chicken” decoy and the there line of new calls. The “Thunder Cluck-N-Purr” is a great sounding call and very easy to use.
April 30, 2013 at 1:41 am #130216Wow that’s a light weight bird, but congrats I wonder if he was on the downward spiral?? Congrats on a successful hunt
April 30, 2013 at 7:25 pm #130237Great story! Thanks for taking the time to share the hunt and congrats on your bird.
Joel
April 30, 2013 at 7:28 pm #130238Quote:
Wow that’s a light weight bird, but congrats I wonder if he was on the downward spiral?? Congrats on a successful hunt
Weight can vary quite a bit. One of the biggest birds I’ve ever been witness to, was a triple-bearded tom my cousin took with 1 1/4″ spurs…..that weighed just over 17lbs. He was running with a group of 6 other toms, and we happened to pick two from the flock. Mine was about the same size in terms of weight, but had much smaller spurs and beard.
With a pack that large, they literally ran themselves ragged trying to outcompete one another. This was late-May, and I’d seen this group the two months prior literally beating each other constantly.
I’ve also seen late-season birds that just weigh very little because of where they wintered, and how much of their fat they ran off during the breeding season. That Iowa corn country always records heavy birds because of the quality of habitat and abundance of food!
Joel
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