Rage 2-blade Question

  • Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #211102

    Here’s a dilemma.

    Kill a few deer/turkeys with the rage two blades, and suddenly you have a good handful of previously used ones around. In the past, if I’ve had any issues with these heads, it’s been too much penetration or blow-thru.

    Do I dare consider using heads that are sharp/operable but have been through an animal already?

    Sounds like a stupid question, but I’ve lost a turkey by blowing through it, and have never had an issue getting arrow penetration with any head.

    Joel

    SteveHuettl
    South Metro
    Posts: 224
    #79856

    That’s more of an ethical question in my book Joel. The ethical hunter will tell you never to use the same broadhead if it’s already been used in the past.

    If your asking whether or not they will work and kill another turkey or deer then my answer would be most certaintly! The only thing you don’t know is probably what you can’t see on the head. Will it fly correctly? I would shoot it into a block target before I made the decision on whether or not to use it again.

    If it were me I would not shoot the same broadhead that’s already been used but that’s just my own personal preference and ethics…to each his own though!!

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #79857

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    If it were me I would not shoot the same broadhead that’s already been used but that’s just my own personal preference and ethics…to each his own though!!


    X2.

    For me it is more for the reason of not knowing if something was damged in the previous use. I spend way too much time, money and sleepless nights every year to have a shooter buck step out and risk the possiblity of losing him or having a bad arrow flight because of a $13.00 decision to re use a broad head or arrow for that matter.

    But again, that is just my opinion!

    HOWEVER FOR TURKEYS, ANYTHINGS GAME!

    ragerunner
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 699
    #79865

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    HOWEVER FOR TURKEYS, ANYTHINGS GAME!


    AMEN!

    I also do not reuse my Rage 2’s on deer. I don’t hunt the thunder chickens, so I’m not much help there.

    sauger
    Hastings ,MN
    Posts: 2442
    #79868

    As long as nothing is bent Joel,touch em up on a diamond hone and let em fly brother!!

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #79872

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    If it were me I would not shoot the same broadhead that’s already been used but that’s just my own personal preference and ethics…to each his own though!!


    X2.

    For me it is more for the reason of not knowing if something was damged in the previous use. I spend way too much time, money and sleepless nights every year to have a shooter buck step out and risk the possiblity of losing him or having a bad arrow flight because of a $13.00 decision to re use a broad head or arrow for that matter.

    But again, that is just my opinion!

    HOWEVER FOR TURKEYS, ANYTHINGS GAME!


    Point well-taken regarding the time/energy/dollars we spend only to screw it up with a bent broadhead we couldn’t tell was bent.

    Deer are a different animal however and when talking specifically about penetration it’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. Penetration is of the utmost importance with deer, whereas with turkeys some argue that penetration is the enemy, or at least pass-thrus are.

    That’s where ethics come in. I’m with you Steve in that I’ll do anything and everything it takes to swiftly kill these birds with the least amount of suffering and lost game possible. The question is more or less do we want the penetration these heads provide with turkeys at typical bow/turkey yardages (~20 yards). There’s still talk (in states where its legal) of adding “stopper” or “grabber” devices to the bases of even massive expandables, as there was in the old days with standard heads. Again, the idea is that there’s simply too much penetration with most broadheads and the arrow completely passes through on many body shots.

    Thoughts?

    Joel

    bob_bergeson
    cannon falls
    Posts: 2798
    #79876

    If the blades are still good and sharp and the head is not bent i would not hesitate to use it on a turkey, but never on a whitetail. I use the rage 2 blade and have made movie stars out of many whitetails and 3 turkeys. I have seen video of turkeys being shot with blunt heads so i don’t think a good used rage would be a problem

    SteveHuettl
    South Metro
    Posts: 224
    #79892

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    If it were me I would not shoot the same broadhead that’s already been used but that’s just my own personal preference and ethics…to each his own though!!


    X2.

    For me it is more for the reason of not knowing if something was damged in the previous use. I spend way too much time, money and sleepless nights every year to have a shooter buck step out and risk the possiblity of losing him or having a bad arrow flight because of a $13.00 decision to re use a broad head or arrow for that matter.

    But again, that is just my opinion!

    HOWEVER FOR TURKEYS, ANYTHINGS GAME!


    Point well-taken regarding the time/energy/dollars we spend only to screw it up with a bent broadhead we couldn’t tell was bent.

    Deer are a different animal however and when talking specifically about penetration it’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. Penetration is of the utmost importance with deer, whereas with turkeys some argue that penetration is the enemy, or at least pass-thrus are.

    That’s where ethics come in. I’m with you Steve in that I’ll do anything and everything it takes to swiftly kill these birds with the least amount of suffering and lost game possible. The question is more or less do we want the penetration these heads provide with turkeys at typical bow/turkey yardages (~20 yards). There’s still talk (in states where its legal) of adding “stopper” or “grabber” devices to the bases of even massive expandables, as there was in the old days with standard heads. Again, the idea is that there’s simply too much penetration with most broadheads and the arrow completely passes through on many body shots.

    Thoughts?

    Joel


    I guess I don’t look at a pass through on a turkey as being a bad thing Joel. With the cutting diameter these heads have today the damage is done when it punches through that bird! If your really concerned about pass through I would suggest going to a bullhead and being done with it. Head or neck shot and the bird is down for good. You miss and the turkey survives for another day.

    I’ve been more than impressed shooting 2-blade Rages at turkeys so far. Haven’t lost a bird yet using them and the kills have been quick!

    whitetails4ever
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 756
    #79893

    Steelforce makes 3 different options for blades(Talon Series) designed to prevent passthroughs on birds. You might want to check them out. Or try out the Bullhead or Guillotine, with head shots there’s no doubt, you kill em or miss em.

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #80169

    I use the Rage 2 heads, and after I hit something with them, even the ground I replace the tip and blades with those kits. Not as much of a pain in the [censored] as I thought it might be, and I never ever doubt the performance when I let ‘er fly!

    les_welch
    Posts: 1007
    #80242

    I reuse expandalbes…..when I’m not too lazy to check them and add new blades. Buy an arrow spinner, roughly $35. I think everyone should have one anyways, it allows you to check your broadhead, insert, and shaft alignment. Takes a lot of the guesswork out of tuning. I have one arrow set aside that spins beautiful. I check all of my heads on that, even new out of the package heads. If they spin good, and are sharp, no reason not to reuse them!

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