Hunting Turkeys with Dogs?

  • Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #211049

    Most of you have seen my post in the General Discussion Forum about the online survey but did you know that not all of the questions relate to deer hunting. One of the questions asks if you would want to be able to hunt turkeys in MN with dogs!

    I do not know about you but I think this is a bad idea, the survey is for all hunters there are also questions for duck hunters and trappers so please take a few minutes and take the survey and vote no to hunting turkeys with dogs!

    2010 Hunting Regulations Online Survey

    scottb.
    Southeast, MN
    Posts: 1014
    #77768

    I agree 100% Steve. I read that today in the paper and thought that it was a bad idea. People have screwed up my deer hunting in the past by running dogs chasing raccoons at night. Of course for them its dark and they claim not to know where they are. The DNR said its just another part to get more people in the woods hunting. I think those guys would be hunting anyway and it wouldn’t really do anything except create more tresspassing problems by people and dogs running a bit to far.

    I agree, vote NO on this one.

    johnsy
    Mantorville, Mn
    Posts: 831
    #77770

    Quote:


    I agree 100% Steve. I read that today in the paper and thought that it was a bad idea. People have screwed up my deer hunting in the past by running dogs chasing raccoons at night. Of course for them its dark and they claim not to know where they are. The DNR said its just another part to get more people in the woods hunting. I think those guys would be hunting anyway and it wouldn’t really do anything except create more tresspassing problems by people and dogs running a bit to far.

    I agree, vote NO on this one.


    x2 Thats exacty what we dont need during the deer season!!!

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77777

    Quote:


    Most of you have seen my post in the General Discussion Forum about the online survey but did you know that not all of the questions relate to deer hunting. One of the questions asks if you would want to be able to hunt turkeys in MN with dogs!

    I do not know about you but I think this is a bad idea, the survey is for all hunters there are also questions for duck hunters and trappers so please take a few minutes and take the survey and vote no to hunting turkeys with dogs!

    2010 Hunting Regulations Online Survey


    Why is this posted on the turkey page?

    Why are you saying to not vote for it?

    Do you understand why they are proposing using dogs?

    Do you agree with eliminating a fall turkey hunting season by making the hunters wear blaze orange during it because an already hurting deer population needs a special youth early season? You would think a week long rut hunt would be enough to harvest a deer with a gun, but yet you want more.

    I’ll wait for your answers, but I wish you would look into why they proposed this rather than blindly assuming it would hurt your low quality deer hunting, and telling others to blindly vote against it. Expecially on the turkey page??????

    CW

    johnsy
    Mantorville, Mn
    Posts: 831
    #77779

    Ok you said hurt our “low quality deer hunt” please explain that one
    Also the 3A gun season always used to be a 9 day season and they took it away and gave it to the 3B season. So to answer your question NO a week isnt long enough to shoot a deer. ESPECIALLY when your not after just any deer.
    And why wouldn’t a youth season be a good thing in October? MN isn’t a very youth friendly state for deer hunting to begin with. I mean come on……youth = future of hunting….
    Ow yeah and running turkeys with dogs and shooting them out of the trees is so sporting. What a JOKE

    scottb.
    Southeast, MN
    Posts: 1014
    #77781

    Low quality deer hunting? I surely didn’t say that!
    Youth season I am not sure about, great to get kids out thats for sure but don’t they already get out during the regular season? I guess having it over MEA does give them a few more days.

    The use of dogs running turkeys which will just put them up a tree so you can shoot them off a branch does not sound like turkey hunting to me and like I mentioned before, to many bad memories of coon hunters using the excuse they didn’t know where they were or better yet there dog took off and they are just trying to chase them down. No thanks, vote NO!

    I did vote for a 30 day turkey season in the fall so you don’t have to worry about having to have orange on for 75% of it.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #77785

    Quote:


    Low quality deer hunting? I surely didn’t say that!


    Scott he was replying to CW’s post not yours.

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77790

    Steve could you post your reasoning for voting NO?
    I guess you are the one who started this thread so I’d like your responce. I’m sure it is based on ruining your deer hunting, and not on any biological reasoning.

    As for the the shooting them off the branch? I don’t think you guys understand why or how dogs are used. Many states use dogs in the Fall. You break a flock up using the dog, and call them back into your setup, while the dog sits under a blind. I have yet to see a turkey that is spooked fly up a tree?

    CW

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #77792

    Quote:


    Why is this posted on the turkey page?


    Because it is about turkey hunting, where would you want me to post it?

    Quote:


    Why are you saying to not vote for it?


    It just does not sit right with me, not the way I want to hunt turkeys, not as much of a challenge and I am afraid we would end up with more hurt and crippled birds.

    Quote:


    Do you understand why they are proposing using dogs?


    You’ve got me there all I know about it is from the question on the survey, this is the fist I have heard anything on the topic.

    Quote:


    Do you agree with eliminating a fall turkey hunting season by making the hunters wear blaze orange during it because an already hurting deer population needs a special youth early season?


    No I do not agree with eliminating a fall turkey hunting season as a matter of fact I support a 30 day season in mid October. My reasons for voting no to hunting turkeys with dogs has nothing to do with my deer hunting, I know a few hard core turkey hunters who do not deer hunt who feel the same way as well. Here is a question for you, Are you opposed to an early youth deer hunting season because you are afraid it will interfere with your turkey hunting?

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77794

    Steve I have no problem with youth hunts and actually believe an early season hunt would be a good option, if it is done correctly. It doesn’t have to be that weekend. Seems like Pheasant, duck, turkey, and grouse hunters are getting a short end of the stick if you take that weekend away from kids getting out in the field doing those things? I personally will not go into the field during any firearm season. Just don’t trust the once a year deer hunters. It would be a cold day in hell if I would take my kids out pheasant, grouse, or turkey hunting during a youth firearm season.

    Like I said I am all for a youth season but what I don’t like is a blind comment that everone should vote no. Like you said you dont really understand it. If you look into how it is done and what really goes on, and then say I don’t like it I can respect that.

    I think its unfair of the DNR to keep putting this in front of hunters without giving any facts or history in other states.

    CW

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #77796

    Quote:


    I think its unfair of the DNR to keep putting this in front of hunters without giving any facts or history in other states.


    Do you have any info on why the MN DNR is looking at using dogs?

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77798

    More than likely it is because they are in the minority!

    29 of the 44 states that have Fall turkey seasons allow the use of dogs. The fact is it is the traditional way of hunting them. It was only in the 70’s when the Spring hunts were introduced, Fall was always the time of the year when turkeys were harvested and dogs are part of that tradition.

    CW

    scottb.
    Southeast, MN
    Posts: 1014
    #77799

    Steve,

    My response was to CW also I was agreeing with the other poster. My hunting and area is getting better every year.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #77852

    Thanks for the link.

    I voted against antler restrictions and in favor of hunting turkeys with dogs.

    Tim

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #77885

    let me clear this up.

    the reason they are looking in to allowing dogs is because they are also looking at a fall turkey season of 30 days,if that is the case and a guy has a turkey lisence and is out hunting something else with his dog (grouse, pheasant,ect.) and comes across some turkeys he can shoot one. as the law is now he could not do that.

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77895

    How many turkeys have you ever come across while hunting pheasants? I have only once had a bird hold long enough for a dog to get a 20 yard point on it. It just so happened that it was an attempted poached bird that a bow hunter had put an arrow through.

    Unlike pheasants and grouse, turkeys are unlikely to hunker down and hide. It is their nautural instinct to run at the first sign of a threat. These are wild birds and not the turkeys they release at Horse and Hunt. If this is the intent of our DNR, and I doubt it is, then why did they first add the 30 day thing this year? Last year when they asked about using dogs it was just during the two 5 day periods.

    CW

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    #77898

    i,m olny saying what they said at the meeting last week.
    some of you guys should do a little research before you start “THINKING” on here

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #77900

    Quote:


    why did they first add the 30 day thing this year?


    Is that already a done deal or are they still just thinking about doing the 30 day fall season?

    alanmdk
    Posts: 222
    #77902

    Quote:


    i,m olny saying what they said at the meeting last week.
    some of you guys should do a little research before you start “THINKING” on here


    Yep, why would the pratical/historical/common reason for allowing dogs during the fall apply!

    I guess if the DNR would post some info online about their reason for the proposals then I could research. Maybe I missed it in the deer hunting slide show, that mentioned NOTHING about ANY of the other questions they asked?

Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 20 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.