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  • protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #210914

    just found out that there has been a few guys that have already hunted my spot for turkey season on May 15 and there is another guy who plans on hunting it between now and the end of the month, im not sure when

    So pretty much my opportunities are slim because im at school till the 14th and i don’t have time to look for a new spot, just old spots that have been “ok” in the past. Any suggestions like if i should still try and hunt this spot if this new guy isn’t hunting my season? I don’t know if they bagged any birds but im guessing they might have because its hot

    dcolsen
    Linwood, MN
    Posts: 120
    #51065

    I have a similar situation. The bordering properties next to my hunting propoerty have shot 9 birds already. I would suggest still giving it a try but scout as much as possible. Maybe get in contact with the other person hunting your season and try to work something out. Sure sucks tho. Good luck

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51066

    the only thing is is that there isn’t really much scouting to be done…the birds roost on the other property and make their way into a pasture where they strut and hopefully will respond to the calls…

    coppertop
    Central MN
    Posts: 2853
    #51074

    Pro, I feel your pain! I deal with this as well as all the properties where I hunt are pie shaped therfore all of the hunters converge on the back of their properties. Story of my hunting life, both turkey and deer.

    gobbler
    Central, MN
    Posts: 1110
    #51080

    Start knocking on some doors. i have went to 2 new places in the past couple of weeks and had success. You would be surprised. A lot of times the land owner wants to talk a lot longer then expected…. I think they want to get to know the person they are going to let hunt

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51082

    i did that a few years ago and secured a couple places to hunt but now i think its time to start doing it again. However, im feeling a little more self conscious than i did back then and i don’t know how to even start….

    Do most of you when you want to ask someone drive up their driveway?? I would be really ticked if i was the land owner and someone did this especially if i didnt like hunting I tried the letter thing to about 15 land owners and had absolutely NO call backs

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #51100

    It’s worth it. I haven’t had time yet to respond to this, but my advice with your situation is to collect a “hit-list” of high priority lands and landowners to ask and follow-through.

    It’s hard at first. People are afraid of the rejection when a landowner says no, but you have to be of the mindset that either some people would never say “yes” anyway, or they had a bad experience, or they already have someone hunting.

    At the same time, you’d be amazed how the simple gesture of asking, rather than just doing, will please landowners. I’m a landowner with trout stream access, and I’m more than likely to let C&R fishermen fish my stretch, but when they park on my land and pretend it’s a public access, I tend to go bonkers. Some guys think I’m a jerk, but only the ones that take without asking.

    Be prepared to work for it however. I spend a TON of time with landowners, before and after season, bringing them walleye and/or gift certificates and just getting to know them. I’ve made alot of good friends that way. It’s rewarding, and with some work, the landowner will save it for you only!

    Think of this as a long term investment/process as well. There’s lots of landowners that I’ve hunted on for upwards of 5-6 years with bow until I can get on there with a gun.

    Introduce yourself, shake their hand, and start with small talk but don’t be too slimy. I usually let them know who I am, where I live, and that I’d like to turkey hunt. Before they can get a chance to say yes/no, I continue on about how I pride myself as a responsible hunter, someone who picks up trash when he sees it, and someone that will always honor the landowner’s wishes, whatever they may be. Offer to help plant trees or some special trade/skill that you might have. Have a piece of paper already filled out with your contact information, when you’ll be hunting, and tell them that you’ll contact them again just before the season to make sure it’s alright.

    They might say no, or they might hem and haw about it. Here’s where the salesman in you has to come out. Many say, “well if I let you, I have to let everyone.” Or, “I’ve already got a guy coming.” That’s when you say, “well, my season is a later one, which should prevent us from running into another,” or, “you own the land and it’s your right to keep anyone on or off your property. But maybe if I brought over XYZ after the season, or helped you with chores ABC before it, you’d understand how appreciative I’d be if I could hunt turkeys here.”

    There’s all kinds of angles, and I was going to make a post about this earlier but forgot.

    Either way, I think it’s worth your time and effort, in that you might find some land you’ll hunt for many years to come.

    Good luck!!!

    Joel

    deerdragger
    Posts: 346
    #51057

    I had my eye on a piece of private property for a few years that was plastered with “NO HUNTING” sings everywhere…The birds always seemed to prefer his pasture to any of the public woods surrounding it.

    So, I dropped in on the guy on Friday. He was in the shop welding away on something or other. I no more than introduced my self and mentioned that I was seeking permission to turkey hunt his property and he was off to the races. The guy (an older gentlemen) was tickled pink to have someone to talk to. And he couldn’t have been happier to have someone offer to kill off “some of them darn turkeys”.

    The toughest part of the whole thing was finding a natural break in the conversation to excuse myself. I’ll be sure and drop in and let him know if we have any success.

    Like others have suggested – it doesn’t hurt to ask.

    woodenfrog
    se mn
    Posts: 123
    #51038

    All good info above.My sucessful experience with hunted property is that there will be birds there but probably a little/lot educated. As tempting as it may be SKIP the decoys and calling.The birds have seen and heard more than enough.Give the birds confidence by giving them the silent treatment and something to look for.

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51040

    Thanks Joel and Dragger I have a property that i hunt and right next to it is a big thick area where the deer come from to enter the area i hunt. I haven’t heard a gun shot or anything like that since ive been hunting it and i really want to ask permission since the landowner of the property i hunt loves what i do for him…I just have to grow bigger balls before

    mbenson
    Minocqua, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3842
    #51121

    protour:

    Do you have any relatives/friends that are farmers??? The reason I ask is that you might call and ask them how best to approach the situation. I know that having a farming background is always helpful when the landowner is an active farmer. In most cases, turkey hunting is something they WANT to have happen on their land!!! This is not deer hunting. I always tended to dress down (not sloppy), jeans, t-shirt and billed ball cap with some type of farming logo on it that they can identify with. And if you get turned down, ask if you might stop by and ask again, especially if you get a luke warm one. If you get a cold one, you’re probably shot, but the more times than not the luke warm one may let you hunt later. ALWAYS tell them that you will let them know when you are going to be trying to hunt and that you will NEVER hunt when you haven’t talked to them, even if they say it is ok.

    Just a thought, if you have relation/friends that are involved in farming, perhaps you can role play with them to get some practice asking. Always offer them something in return, be it fish, cheese (cheesehead here), gift certificate to a restaurant, resort, etc. or even free labor. Good luck, be natural and get permission!!!

    Oh and here is another tidbit, my brother found out that land he had permission to hunt on was being hunted by someone who was guiding others on the property which the landowner didn’t know. And that was this last Thurs., two days into their season!!!

    Mark

    robhood23
    Posts: 214
    #51277

    I wouldn’t let it bother you. I have one property that I hunt that gets hunted alot prior to me hunting it. I have had guys tell me they could not get a bird to come in all week and then I have gone in and killed a bird the first morning with a bow. It really depends on the week and how the birds are reacting to calling. Stay positive and kill your bird!

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51279

    well i talked to the land owner’s son and he said that it wouldn’t work this year He said there for sure is one guy coming to hunt and maybe another as well Too bad, this was my primary spot and i have to go to secondary spots now. I have one more area that i was told i can hunt but i have to wait until i see the guy thursday to confirm it. Im keepin my fingers crossed on this one

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #51281

    This isn’t a criticism, but I’d think even bigger. One or two spots don’t need to make/break your hunt. If it’s at all possible to hit the ground for a day, even half a day, it might be worth it. Do some heavy scouting from well before sunrise to get as many gobbles/locations as you can in multiple spots, then work on your plat book to drive around and hit those landowners up as the morning progresses.

    I’m not trying to make this sound easy either, as I know it’s not. But if you can spare the time, I think a 1/2 day would really help you out.

    Joel

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51286

    Thats what sucks about being at school and my final test is 3:30-5:30 on thursday I may be able to get up early on tuesday to shock gobble some birds since ill be home for orientation for my job…we’ll see

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #51288

    Quote:


    Thats what sucks about being at school and my final test is 3:30-5:30 on thursday I may be able to get up early on tuesday to shock gobble some birds since ill be home for orientation for my job…we’ll see


    Death in the family? I used “my girlfriend broke her ankle jogging” one time.

    Joel

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #51294

    Quote:


    Death in the family? I used “my girlfriend broke her ankle jogging” one time.


    Joel, what in the world are you trying to teach dis’ yout?? (My Cousin Vinny)

    You know as well as I do, Girlfriends and hunting don’t mix…. Get rid of the girlfriend and stick with the death in the family Protour!.

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #51295

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Death in the family? I used “my girlfriend broke her ankle jogging” one time.


    Joel, what in the world are you trying to teach dis’ yout?? (My Cousin Vinny)

    You know as well as I do, Girlfriends and hunting don’t mix…. Get rid of the girlfriend and stick with the death in the family Protour!.


    That was the best part, I didn’t have a girlfriend at the time, and I missed the final because I had too much fun the night before!

    Joel

    protourbaits
    stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2466
    #51314


    That was the best part, I didn’t have a girlfriend at the time, and I missed the final because I had too much fun the night before!

    Joel


    Definitely seeing that right now w/ a bunch of people A guy on our softball team jumped out of a window when he was hammered last night and broke his leg Gotta love the end of semesters with everyone procrastinating and choosing to get bombed

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