Truckers convoy in Canada

Out of respect for Buschmans thread we should start a different thread to battle this out.

gimruis wrote:

Apparently I’m seen as the bad guy in this thread.

I don’t see you as the bad guy here at all. I believe that you may have a few different opinions than myself and some others here. I can’t speak for others, but as for me I’m fine with that. I’d have no problem sharing a boat or having a beer with you any day.

Dutchboy wrote:

Out of respect for Buschmans thread we should start a different thread to battle this out.

No Dutchboy. Don’t start any new thread. Yours often get dusted and yourself and others get a time out. You nor anyone else needs that.

Really? I’ve had a time out here?

Carry on.

Dutchboy wrote:

Really? I’ve had a time out here?

Carry on.

YOu probably deserved a couple LOL Years ago I got sent to the corner for a couple days.

fishthumper wrote:

I don’t see you as the bad guy here at all. I believe that you may have a few different opinions than myself and some others here. I can’t speak for others, but as for me I’m fine with that. I’d have no problem sharing a boat or having a beer with you any day.

X2. We all just have different opinions. I am ok with that and agree 100% with the comment above.

My intentions posting this was not to get into a IDO forum fist fight but to make people aware of the situation. Open conversation is good.. Carry on and and if anyone does not like the conversation then scroll by.

gimruis wrote:

Apparently I’m seen as the bad guy in this thread.

I am not saying that you can’t support or not support what a protest is about. In fact, I agree with most of the people on this forum of which causes I support and which ones I don’t support.

What I was trying to get at was the simple act of protesting in general that some think is fine or not fine. You don’t get to say that protesting is fine one day and not fine on another. Sure, of course you can say you support one cause for that protest and don’t support another.

I’ve already stated my opinion on blocking roads. Singing kum ba yah and eating smores would be fine by me. LOL that was a good one by the way Supercat.

I understood your point from the beginning.

Dutchboy is on a time out.

Brian Klawitter wrote:

Dutchboy is on a time out.

LOL Early release for good behavior?

Mike wrote:

When Nazis are on your side, you may want to re-think your side.

Best post of this entire thread

crappie55369 wrote:

you either agree with the constitution and the rights afforded within it or you dont. Protesting is a protected right in America under the first Amendment (not sure about Canada). When you oppose the action for the people in Minneapolis earlier but are in favor of it in this case thats call a double standard and its bullsh*t. Same goes for when Kapearnick exercised his protected rights and people here wanted to string him up.

You can definitely disagree with the reasons behind a protest or the words people say but what i think is obvious here, and was blatantly obvious during the whole kapernick debacle, is some people are disagreeing with peoples rights because they didnt like the people or their cause, which IMHO, is about as unamerican as it gets

very well said Crappie

crappie55369 wrote:

But you do get to pick and choose, why couldn’t some one pick and choose with what they agree or disagree with.

you either agree with the constitution and the rights afforded within it or you dont. Protesting is a protected right in America under the first Amendment (not sure about Canada). When you oppose the action for the people in Minneapolis earlier but are in favor of it in this case thats call a double standard and its bullsh*t. Same goes for when Kapearnick exercised his protected rights and people here wanted to string him up.

You can definitely disagree with the reasons behind a protest or the words people say but what i think is obvious here, and was blatantly obvious during the whole kapernick debacle, is some people are disagreeing with peoples rights because they didnt like the people or their cause, which IMHO, is about as unamerican as it gets
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LOL!

Classic doublespeak…

So you either fully support ALL protests or you can’t support ANY protests.

Do I have that right?

stout93 wrote:

So you either fully support ALL protests or you can’t support ANY protests.

Do I have that right?

No. Try reading it again. He said you either support the right to protest or you don’t.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mike wrote:</div>
When Nazis are on your side, you may want to re-think your side.

Best post of this entire thread

Do either of you understand the intentions of the convoy? Or the people involved..
or are you just assuming this because CBC, BBC and a politician said it?? I believe they spotted a confederate flag in the crowd and made it the story from it that represents a group over 10,000 large. The PM and media also called the convoy racist. Just curious if you know something I do not or if you just believe anything a liberal network tells you. This is an honest question. Not a jab at your post.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mike wrote:</div>
When Nazis are on your side, you may want to re-think your side.

Best post of this entire thread

So in the days of everything being recorded all the time you two think the reported swastikas are real because your news told you it? You just reported about all the other things on video. Why isn’t this? Democrats are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

Guys, let me know if you had time to listen to either attachment I added above. One was the press conference from the police chief and the other was a press conference with the organizers of the convoy. They are long but if you want to know the transparent audio before the media feeds you something they Cherry pick it is in those attachments.

The first few minutes and last few will give you some idea if you want to keep it short.

It’s funny to me that once I posted audios earlier this thread was attacked by some. That’s ok!!! We don’t have to turn it into something else just because the cancel committee arrived. Haha. Carry on.

Onthewater wrote:

So in the days of everything being recorded all the time you two think the reported swastikas are real because your news told you it? You just reported about all the other things on video. Why isn’t this? Democrats are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

I always voted red until DJT made me step back and reassess my values and what was important to me. If you’re unsure what side the guys flying swastikas were on, you might be the brainwashed one.

Duluth1an, do you have a video or photo here that represents what you are taking about??

My question above was directed towards you and some others.

Orange man has nothing to do with this convoy. But thanks for letting us know who and why you voted over a year ago. Not sure I asked though??

So who’s wearing the stawstikas now days?

Attachments:

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Huh.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-business-ottawa-canada-87496fa7a60183c5ab4f253f76dbb7ba

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Onthewater wrote:</div>
So in the days of everything being recorded all the time you two think the reported swastikas are real because your news told you it? You just reported about all the other things on video. Why isn’t this? Democrats are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

I always voted red until DJT made me step back and reassess my values and what was important to me. If you’re unsure what side the guys flying swastikas were on, you might be the brainwashed one.

Still waiting on this proof. There is 1 picture of 5 guys standing by themselves with 1 flag. Not multiple. Nobody else around. Not one other protester to be seen in the pic. You psychos are probably the ones that are out there doing it to make the rest of the people look bad. Seriously. If every pic or video of this protest has hundreds of people in it why does that one have 5?

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
So you either fully support ALL protests or you can’t support ANY protests.

Do I have that right?

No. Try reading it again. He said you either support the right to protest or you don’t.

This is what I as getting at earlier today on this. It’s the right to protest based on the first amendment that you can say is fine one day and disagree with the next. You can choose to agree or disagree with the subject of the protest though.

gimruis wrote:

This is what I as getting at earlier today on this. It’s the right to protest based on the first amendment that you can say is fine one day and disagree with the next. You can choose to agree or disagree with the subject of the protest though.

I don’t think anyone is saying protesting is not allowed. It’s the fact that when “protesting” turns into looting, burning down buildings and causing mass chaos. Even if I did believe in police reform or anything else and it turned violent then it’s not really protesting anymore. I would say it’s not fine in my opinion then so I could say it’s fine one day and not the next depending on the actions of the so called “protesters”

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Onthewater wrote:</div>
So in the days of everything being recorded all the time you two think the reported swastikas are real because your news told you it? You just reported about all the other things on video. Why isn’t this? Democrats are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

I always voted red until DJT made me step back and reassess my values and what was important to me. If you’re unsure what side the guys flying swastikas were on, you might be the brainwashed one.

Interesting how a group that’s peacefully protesting for freedom, and stopping all these politically motivated lockdowns/mandates gets lumped in with DT. Kinda shows where the libbys are coming from don’t it? Last I checked freedom and politically motivated lockdowns/mandates shouldn’t be a left or right issue, it should be an everyone issue.

Gimruis, you are right the way I read it. It’s difficult sometimes to understand someone tapping at a computer and can be mis understood. I read it as you support protest that contribute towards or against your own view. I agree if it’s peaceful assembly without violence.

Right ??

If you agree then why are some people/media so fast to attack this convoy?? We are talking over 10,000 people at the nations capitol at minimum. Canadians along highways as confirmed by our local driver earlier. This started 1/23 and till today it Sounds like one arrest so far.

You are right as well that it will get worst. It’s easy to move a few thousand people out of a city but not a big fleet of semi tractors. You need a wrecker for that and they just cannot do it with any efficacy. Add in that some wrecker services might be in the convoy 🤔

10 million plus in funding from over 100,000 people. No government funding or political press. I do believe that they are serious and don’t plan to leave. That is where will get serious. Not sure their upper politics would give in either. So could get ugly if their GOVERNMENT allows or mandates violence on them. Just saying..

What’s odd is we still not have heard confirmation on truck off the road in Canada. I see 1000 from the media and the convoy said 100,000 lightly. Meaning 30,000 is possible through the country that pull a trailer. Big or small. They are the 3rd largest importer to the USA. We have continued to have clean runs so far this week at work into MB and ON. Just more expensive in certain lanes. So far so good but I am a blip in the industry.

That border blockage in Alberta is one of few things the media has to report and complain about.

You all might know this but will explain if you do not. People are still crossing but looks like the truckers lane is still not open. So an ambulance, resident and fishermen can get through. Just not import/export goods. There are other crossing but that one sucks to go around and sure that’s not on accident they picked that location.

buschman wrote:

Gimruis, you are right the way I read it. It’s difficult sometimes to understand someone tapping at a computer and can be mis understood. I read it as you support protest that contribute towards or against your own view.

I was having difficulty relaying what I meant in this thread. Under the first amendment (in the USA, of course), we have that right to protest something we don’t agree with, regardless of what the cause if for.

The Coutts convoy was estimated at 10000 trucks yesterday. I watched videos of the negotiations with the RCMP but they werent even negotiations. The mayor of Coutts even commented on an interview that “you cannot win against the government” and said that he didnt agree with the mandates, but figured they were based on “science”. They had two trucks lined up to begin removing the rigs. Last night a bunch of farmers came in support with their tractors and manure spreaders, etc.
What the leaders of the protest want is a chance to talk to someone in charge, but there are not given the opportunity. I read a headline that Toronto was ending mandates in the near future.

glenn57 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>fishthumper wrote:</div>
I think some here need a little lesson in History. This Country was founded because the citizens at the time felt they were not being treated right or fair and were not in favor of mandates made by the government at the time. The citizens thought they deserved and should have some rights. The Government believed that the citizens where there to be used in ways that best Suited the government. What started as some simple protest lead to a revolution. At the start of the revolution only a rather small percentage of the citizens were in favor of the revolution. It only took a spark made by a few to ignite the mass. If nothing else history has proven over time that most Governments at some point begin to overstep their power, and the citizens end up needing to step up to get their rights back.

i’m with fishthumper on this one!!!!!

AMEN too!!!!