Truckers convoy in Canada

Here is the interview with the organizers of the convoy.. If you listened to the police chief he explains that you have multiple groups with their own intentions here. They have managed to be peaceful to this point and that is impressive in itself.

I ask anyone who is not sure what to believe here and has the time to listen to both these attachments. From there create your own opinion. Dont read BBC and the liberal news or go off far right social media. Listen to the facts first then create your OWN opinion from there.

https://rumble.com/vtp2lw-freedom-convoy-organizers-press-conference.html

They certainly aren’t ingratiating the people of Canada to their already unpopular cause (of the 120,000 Canadian truckers who cross into the U.S., only about 12,000 of them remain unvaccinated.) Confederate flags, Swastikas and Nazi slogans were spotted in the crowd. Videos on social media emerged of protesters dancing and even urinating on the Tomb of the Unknown Solider. Protesters also decorated the statue of famous cancer research advocate Terry Fox with anti-vaccine messaging. Protesters harassed volunteers at a soup kitchen meant for people experiencing food insecurity after they were ejected from restaurants for refusing to wear masks. Anti-vaccine activists lobbed racial slurs and physically attacked both people visiting the kitchen and the people working there

When Nazis are on your side, you may want to re-think your side.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

There’s only been one booster in the US, not 5.

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Mr. Derek wrote:

Some people seem to think the people Cameron is being delayed by on his route to Fargo are the same people protesting 1000 plus miles away in Ottawa. Everyone will tend to see things through their own lenses, that is normal. I personally think regardless of the message, protests today can easily be down played or even condemned by the actions of a few, perhaps within the group or strategically placed by the opposition. It also helps if you have media allies and or power, that is why I agree with some that this will likely not lead to anything productive. I would not expect anything less from prime minister two face, to use any means necessary to down play and condemn the people supporting this. [/quote

They are the same group. Shut down the coutts, Alberta border crossing, holding drivers and loads hostage. The exact same group protesting in Ottawa is the exact same group at the border crossings.

Here comes the graphs again lol

I have no dog in the fight however I don’t think most people understand how much freight this country moves by truck. I understand right now this is a Canadian thing but it can happen here also.

Dutchboy wrote:

I have no dog in the fight however I don’t think most people understand how much freight this country moves by truck. I understand right now this is a Canadian thing but it can happen here also.

I hope it does not happen here. Like I stated before. Transportation is my day job. We already have enough issues with capacity, fuel and rates. The border mandate already has and is affecting us but will not know how much till later this week and into next week. This however has freed up some extra drivers for domestic shipments.

I think some here need a little lesson in History. This Country was founded because the citizens at the time felt they were not being treated right or fair and were not in favor of mandates made by the government at the time. The citizens thought they deserved and should have some rights. The Government believed that the citizens where there to be used in ways that best Suited the government. What started as some simple protest lead to a revolution. At the start of the revolution only a rather small percentage of the citizens were in favor of the revolution. It only took a spark made by a few to ignite the mass. If nothing else history has proven over time that most Governments at some point begin to overstep their power, and the citizens end up needing to step up to get their rights back.

gim wrote:

Blocking a highway is not going to help the cause. It just makes me less tolerant of it.

Google the Selma Civil rights protests. I have no problem with blocking roads in protest, even if it means Cameron or others are slightly delayed. I do have a big problem with rioting, looting or destruction of property. It’s that simple in my opinion.

Ironic Trudeaux supposedly has Covid, despite being triple jabbed, while this is all going on.

BigWerm wrote:

I have no problem with blocking roads in protest, even if it means Cameron or others are slightly delayed. I do have a big problem with rioting, looting or destruction of property. It’s that simple in my opinion.

What about if they block a road you need to use get to work or drop off your kids at daycare? Are you fine with that? How about train tracks or an airport runway?

Blocking a road or highway is dangerous. Its a threat to public safety. If you want to block a road, good luck. You understand that there’s a risk a truck or car could flatten you going 70 mph. One of these times a truck is going to go flying through a crowd of people and dozens of people will die. Which is almost what happened this past summer right here in Minneapolis. Luckily no one was even injured during that incident.

Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
Blocking a highway is not going to help the cause. It just makes me less tolerant of it.

Google the Selma Civil rights protests. I have no problem with blocking roads in protest, even if it means Cameron or others are slightly delayed. I do have a big problem with rioting, looting or destruction of property. It’s that simple in my opinion.

Ironic Trudeaux supposedly has Covid, despite being triple jabbed, while this is all going on.

He is a weasel

gim wrote:

Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

X2!! well said

crappie55369 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

X2!! well said

But you do get to pick and choose, why couldn’t some one pick and choose with what they agree or disagree with.

fishthumper wrote:

I think some here need a little lesson in History. This Country was founded because the citizens at the time felt they were not being treated right or fair and were not in favor of mandates made by the government at the time. The citizens thought they deserved and should have some rights. The Government believed that the citizens where there to be used in ways that best Suited the government. What started as some simple protest lead to a revolution. At the start of the revolution only a rather small percentage of the citizens were in favor of the revolution. It only took a spark made by a few to ignite the mass. If nothing else history has proven over time that most Governments at some point begin to overstep their power, and the citizens end up needing to step up to get their rights back.

i’m with fishthumper on this one!!!!!

gim wrote:

What about if they block a road you need to use get to work or drop off your kids at daycare? Are you fine with that? How about train tracks or an airport runway?

Blocking a road or highway is dangerous. Its a threat to public safety. If you want to block a road, good luck. You understand that there’s a risk a truck or car could flatten you going 70 mph. One of these times a truck is going to go flying through a crowd of people and dozens of people will die. Which is almost what happened this past summer right here in Minneapolis. Luckily no one was even injured during that incident.

Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

I may not like it, or agree with the reason for the protest, but I’m fine with a minor inconvenience on the side of free speech. I’m not one to protest in person, but if others want to I support their right to be heard. It’s of the utmost importance, which is why the Founding Fathers made it the first amendment, and it applies to PUBLIC property (train tracks and airport runways being private). And also why the second amendment was next, in case the first one was no longer respected.

But you do get to pick and choose, why couldn’t some one pick and choose with what they agree or disagree with.

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you either agree with the constitution and the rights afforded within it or you dont. Protesting is a protected right in America under the first Amendment (not sure about Canada). When you oppose the action for the people in Minneapolis earlier but are in favor of it in this case thats call a double standard and its bullsh*t. Same goes for when Kapearnick exercised his protected rights and people here wanted to string him up.

You can definitely disagree with the reasons behind a protest or the words people say but what i think is obvious here, and was blatantly obvious during the whole kapernick debacle, is some people are disagreeing with peoples rights because they didnt like the people or their cause, which IMHO, is about as unamerican as it gets

https://youtube.com/shorts/lrUAc32Eews?feature=share

BigWerm wrote:

I may not like it, or agree with the reason for the protest, but I’m fine with a minor inconvenience on the side of free speech. I’m not one to protest in person, but if others want to I support their right to be heard. It’s of the utmost importance, which is why the Founding Fathers made it the first amendment, and it applies to PUBLIC property (train tracks and airport runways being private). And also why the second amendment was next, in case the first one was no longer respected.

X2. I’ve never been one to protest myself, but have never had a problem with those who do. As long as the protest stays peaceful. Once it is no longer peaceful its no longer a protest, its a Riot ( Which is a criminal activity ) and should be dealt with as such. I don’t think protest should be allowed to take place on a roadway or any other location that prevents others not involved in the protest from being able to move around without delays or harm. If 100,000 cars and trucks want to line up and drive slowly in one lane while allowing others not involved in the protest the ability to get by safely and without delay – Fine no problem.

crappie55369 wrote:

When you oppose the action for the people in Minneapolis earlier but are in favor of it in this case thats call a double standard and its bullsh*t.

Yeah you are full of double standards.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VvgTq-pk710?feature=share

crappie55369 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

X2!! well said

This is currently not our fight in the USA nor relates to your examples above. People protest all the time with a mixed opinion on what is right or wrong. Its not all or nothing. The right to assemble and protest is all or nothing but the reason why they protest is never unanimous in support.

Lets keep BLM and election on a different subject please. These people are a different group with a different fight.

fishthumper wrote:

If 100,000 cars and trucks want to line up and drive slowly in one lane while allowing others not involved in the protest the ability to get by safely and without delay – Fine no problem.

Its been discussed on here before but the whole point of a protest is to disrupt daily life to get attention for the cause you are protesting for. A protest that doesnt interfere with your life (get your attention) is pointless. I have no position here on this matter just pointing out that if there were a protesting 101 class this would likely be the day 1 lesson

crappie55369 wrote:

But you do get to pick and choose, why couldn’t some one pick and choose with what they agree or disagree with.

you either agree with the constitution and the rights afforded within it or you dont. Protesting is a protected right in America under the first Amendment (not sure about Canada). When you oppose the action for the people in Minneapolis earlier but are in favor of it in this case thats call a double standard and its bullsh*t. Same goes for when Kapearnick exercised his protected rights and people here wanted to string him up.

You can definitely disagree with the reasons behind a protest or the words people say but what i think is obvious here, and was blatantly obvious during the whole kapernick debacle, is some people are disagreeing with peoples rights because they didnt like the people or their cause, which IMHO, is about as unamerican as it gets
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I can support one cause and not the other 100 percent. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn’t mean I say they can’t do it. I said I can stand behind one and not the other. It’s not bs. Whining is bs. Protesting is a right and that’s the way it is. If one protest is something some one agrees with then they support it. If another is something you don’t agree with then you don’t stand with or behind them, very simple.

I dont protest but I can stand behind a protest. I don’t stand behind burning and destroying property. Or looting because they can get away with it.
I dont stand behind defunding police but I will stand behind unequal and unfair treatment of others.
It’s very simple.
So you can stand behind one and not the other. If I support one protest and not another that is my choice. It is not unconstitutional to disagree or agree.
I’m not out stopping any one from doing anything.
That is how and why our country was founded

gim wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
I have no problem with blocking roads in protest, even if it means Cameron or others are slightly delayed. I do have a big problem with rioting, looting or destruction of property. It’s that simple in my opinion.

What about if they block a road you need to use get to work or drop off your kids at daycare? Are you fine with that? How about train tracks or an airport runway?

Blocking a road or highway is dangerous. Its a threat to public safety. If you want to block a road, good luck. You understand that there’s a risk a truck or car could flatten you going 70 mph. One of these times a truck is going to go flying through a crowd of people and dozens of people will die. Which is almost what happened this past summer right here in Minneapolis. Luckily no one was even injured during that incident.

Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

If you haven’t figured it out if they didn’t hinder normal day life then the protest would not work. As long as they are not causing damage to others property I’m ok with it. I don’t think singing kum ba yah would get a lot of attention. When they start looting and burning property it’s time to go.

gim wrote:

Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

Umm what? A person CAN pick and choose whatever he wants. It’s when the “peaceful protests” start burning down a city is when it becomes a problem and not ok

fishthumper wrote:

I’ve never been one to protest myself, but have never had a problem with those who do. As long as the protest stays peaceful. Once it is no longer peaceful its no longer a protest, its a Riot ( Which is a criminal activity ) and should be dealt with as such.

Can you tell the difference between someone who is there to be peaceful and someone who is there to cause trouble before they do it? Law enforcement can’t. Neither can I. That’s why a crowd of people is now a threat to public safety. It attracts riff raff and trouble makers that do not care about the cause. Virtually every recent protest in the past couple years has escalated into a riot.

Its been discussed on here before but the whole point of a protest is to disrupt daily life to get attention for the cause you are protesting for. A protest that doesnt interfere with your life (get your attention) is pointless. I have no position here on this matter just pointing out that if there were a protesting 101 class this would likely be the day 1 lesson
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So your saying that for a protest to be successful it needs to interrupt others movement and safety, and to interfere with others daily lives . If that be the case then I change my original statement and am totally against any and all protest !!!!

I was basing my statement on the Dictionary definition of a protest:
Essential Meaning of protest:

1: something said or done that shows disagreement with or disapproval of something
He heard protests from the crowd.
She told him to go to bed despite his protests that he wasn’t tired.
See More Examples
2: an event at which people gather together to show strong disapproval about something
The students launched/held/staged a protest against the tuition increase.
an antiwar protest
a protest march/demonstration/rally

Nowhere do I see anything about the disruption of daily lives.

Coletrain27 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
Some people seem to think that its fine to protest a trucking mandate or election results but its not fine to protest police brutality or voting rights. You don’t get to pick and choose which one you think is worth protesting. Its either all or nothing. And I’d be fine with nothing at this point.

Umm what? A person CAN pick and choose whatever he wants. It’s when the “peaceful protests” start burning down a city is when it becomes a problem and not ok

Yes that was a very ignorant reply. And reading many of his posts I dont feel like that’s what he meant. But maybe I’m wrong

Apparently I’m seen as the bad guy in this thread.

I am not saying that you can’t support or not support what a protest is about. In fact, I agree with most of the people on this forum of which causes I support and which ones I don’t support.

What I was trying to get at was the simple act of protesting in general that some think is fine or not fine. You don’t get to say that protesting is fine one day and not fine on another. Sure, of course you can say you support one cause for that protest and don’t support another.

I’ve already stated my opinion on blocking roads. Singing kum ba yah and eating smores would be fine by me. LOL that was a good one by the way Supercat.

gim wrote:

Can you tell the difference between someone who is there to be peaceful and someone who is there to cause trouble before they do it? Law enforcement can’t. Neither can I. That’s why a crowd of people is now a threat to public safety. It attracts riff raff and trouble makers that do not care about the cause. Virtually every recent protest in the past couple years has escalated into a riot.

May not be able to tell the difference between the peaceful people and the ones there to cause trouble at the start of a protest, but can clearly tell the difference once it turns not peaceful ( Riot ) . Just look for the ones throwing things, Breaking windows, looting, and setting fire to things. The peaceful people will all be gone once this starts. Unlike some. I don’t believe in holding the majority responsible for the actions of the few.

gim wrote:

Apparently I’m seen as the bad guy in this thread.

I am not saying that you can’t support or not support what a protest is about. In fact, I agree with most of the people on this forum of which causes I support and which ones I don’t support.

What I was trying to get at was the simple act of protesting in general that some think is fine or not fine. You don’t get to say that protesting is fine one day and not fine on another. Sure, of course you can say you support one cause for that protest and don’t support another.

I’ve already stated my opinion on blocking roads. Singing kum ba yah and eating smores would be fine by me. LOL that was a good one by the way Supercat.

You are not the bad guy bud. I think it was a simple mis understanding.