Truckers convoy in Canada

  • CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22718
    #2095144

    This is kinda what I was getting at in an earlier post when I indicated that protests in general escalate and often get out of hand. I’ve never protested anything and I never intend to. Blocking a highway or inciting violence or defacing memorials or looting or burning or whatever is often the result. People who are not really associated with the original protest often show up to cause a riot because they can. We’ve seen it many times before. I really don’t care if you’re protesting police brutality, an election, or a trucker vaccine mandate. Law enforcement doesn’t know if you’re there peacefully or if you’re there to cause trouble.

    I have read since I posted that one of the organizers has said they will not block emergency vehicles, assist in any way possible should issues arise and they have a big communication network to make coordinated decisions. It sounds like its pretty well run over all. Just read the US is planning something similar and want to dwarf that of the convoy in Canada. I saw videos over the weekend where someone came to the protests in Ottawa posing as a member of the group but was obviously there to start trouble and they forced him to leave.

    Cameron white
    Posts: 516
    #2095230

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
    This is kinda what I was getting at in an earlier post when I indicated that protests in general escalate and often get out of hand. I’ve never protested anything and I never intend to. Blocking a highway or inciting violence or defacing memorials or looting or burning or whatever is often the result. People who are not really associated with the original protest often show up to cause a riot because they can. We’ve seen it many times before. I really don’t care if you’re protesting police brutality, an election, or a trucker vaccine mandate. Law enforcement doesn’t know if you’re there peacefully or if you’re there to cause trouble.

    I have read since I posted that one of the organizers has said they will not block emergency vehicles, assist in any way possible should issues arise and they have a big communication network to make coordinated decisions. It sounds like its pretty well run over all. Just read the US is planning something similar and want to dwarf that of the convoy in Canada. I saw videos over the weekend where someone came to the protests in Ottawa posing as a member of the group but was obviously there to start trouble and they forced him to leave.

    Rcmp truck with light activated couldn’t get through Saturday. He had to run the ditch to get by it, so they lied.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #2095235

    Just read the US is planning something similar and want to dwarf that of the convoy in Canada.

    That’s all our US supply chain needs. No trucks.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11917
    #2095237

    Just read the US is planning something similar and want to dwarf that of the convoy in Canada.

    That’s all our US supply chain needs. No trucks.

    Not sure how much worse the current US supply chain could get backed up. If nothing else the politicians will have a new excuse to use for all the countries problems. I think its a little funny all the big talk of how many places of work were going to force the vaccination mandate have since backed off or put in religious and Philosophical exemptions to the mandate. I sure that the # of employee’s they were likely to lose had anything to do with the exemptions though. All the people who I know who’s employer said they were going to mandate have now all backed off or offered exemptions. This includes a fair # of people who work in the medical profession.

    ganderpike
    Alexandria
    Posts: 1095
    #2095239

    Nothing says “Sticking it to the man” like holding consumer goods hostage

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18615
    #2095241

    Nothing says “Sticking it to the man” like holding consumer goods hostage

    Sometimes collateral damage cant be helped. . The bad guys are consumers too.

    ganderpike
    Alexandria
    Posts: 1095
    #2095243

    Wasn’t the vibe I was getting in here in 2020 when people were protesting on Interstates going thru the metro…. pick your poison I guess

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2095263

    Wasn’t the vibe I was getting in here in 2020 when people were protesting on Interstates going thru the metro…. pick your poison I guess

    When it’s for a cause you support most anything can be looked past. When its not its the gallows.

    Coletrain27
    Posts: 4789
    #2095269

    Just read the US is planning something similar and want to dwarf that of the convoy in Canada.

    That’s all our US supply chain needs. No trucks.

    Great, the shelves will be more bare and more expensive than they already are. I wonder if everybody is gonna start hoarding toilet paper again rotflol

    Deuces
    Posts: 5236
    #2095273

    What kind of consumer goods we talking about here, it’s Canada, oh boy my caribou gloves and hockey sticks are gonna be a few weeks late. Bummer.

    Rumors have it Red Green is on his way in the possum van for backup

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16650
    #2095275

    Wasn’t the vibe I was getting in here in 2020 when people were protesting on Interstates going thru the metro…. pick your poison I guess

    A bit different when the a$$ clowns are WALKING down a open freeway with cars running on it. But then you knew that.

    Ripjiggen
    Posts: 11586
    #2095276

    Curious how it’s different? Because they were on foot vs in a semi. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either protest just trying to understand the difference.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2095277

    Curious how it’s different? Because they were on foot vs in a semi. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with either protest just trying to understand the difference.

    Agree. Sounds like people blocked Cameron from doing his job and one of his co workers went into the ditch to get around them. How is that different from what was universally condemned with protests of other causes?

    ganderpike
    Alexandria
    Posts: 1095
    #2095279

    Picturing mennonites/Amish and religious folks taking to their 18 wheelers is the Southpark material this world needs. Any chance they could recruit Inuits?

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #2095284

    Wasn’t the vibe I was getting in here in 2020 when people were protesting on Interstates going thru the metro…. pick your poison I guess

    those truckers are protesting government overreach, those in 2020, doah I have no clue???

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2095288

    those truckers are protesting government overreach, those in 2020, doah I have no clue???
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    It’s the action that was condemned here in 2020 not the cause of the protest. I think I spelled out the answer above. when you support the cause most all actions are acceptable. After all you have to crack some eggs to make an omelet and sometimes you just need to look the other way and forge ahead. When you oppose the cause then the action, and those committing it, deserves punishment.

    I for one am always glad to see when civilians rise up together and make their opinions known to try to create change, in a peaceful way of course

    munchy
    NULL
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    #2095290

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    Coletrain27
    Posts: 4789
    #2095294

    Funny how the media interprets it isn’t it munchy moon

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5797
    #2095296

    Yep. Just 100 trucks. Nothing to see here coffee

    tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #2095307

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ganderpike wrote:</div>
    Wasn’t the vibe I was getting in here in 2020 when people were protesting on Interstates going thru the metro…. pick your poison I guess

    When it’s for a cause you support most anything can be looked past. When its not its the gallows.

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    Mr. Derek
    NULL
    Posts: 235
    #2095312

    Some people seem to think the people Cameron is being delayed by on his route to Fargo are the same people protesting 1000 plus miles away in Ottawa. Everyone will tend to see things through their own lenses, that is normal. I personally think regardless of the message, protests today can easily be down played or even condemned by the actions of a few, perhaps within the group or strategically placed by the opposition. It also helps if you have media allies and or power, that is why I agree with some that this will likely not lead to anything productive. I would not expect anything less from prime minister two face, to use any means necessary to down play and condemn the people supporting this.

    Denny O
    Central IOWA
    Posts: 5819
    #2095327

    I AM SO CONFUSED!

    How is this post allowed to go on??
    When others get dusted or shut off?????
    I do not understand where the “balance is grasshopper” PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME?

    @jamesholst


    @beachbrian


    @jonj

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20324
    #2095336

    Because we are adults having a civil conversation. No one is name calling yet. That’s when they go south.

    Leftysrconfused
    Posts: 86
    #2095338

    If you can’t tell the difference between this trucker convoy and the mostly peaceful protests from this past summer than it’s a fact that our EDUCATION SYSTEM LET YOU DOWN!!!

    Quick little hint to help those asking questions. Our government helped set up the protests over this past summer. They were govt funded projects with city paid workers helping to guide traffic and set up road block barriers.
    Hopefully the fringe minority can understand 1 of the many big differences now.

    If you would like, we could go into the media coverage differences next?

    My prediction says these truckers will all go back to work with a new “CRIMINAL” stigma attached to them.

    Perhaps the owners of this website understand that the day will come when mandates are forced in this country and unless compliant a person won’t be allowed to own a website any longer.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17348
    #2095351

    If you can’t tell the difference between this trucker convoy and the mostly peaceful protests from this past summer than it’s a fact that our EDUCATION SYSTEM LET YOU DOWN!!!

    Well I guess the system let me down then. As previously stated, I don’t care what the reason for it is. Go home. Stop blocking roads and damaging property. It always leads to something worse.

    When law enforcement sees a crowd of people, they can’t tell which ones are there to be peaceful and which ones are there to start a riot. They all look the same. If they all stayed peaceful and didn’t disrupt everyday society, then I might be more accepting of it. Blocking a highway is not going to help the cause. It just makes me less tolerant of it.

    Leftysrconfused
    Posts: 86
    #2095359

    Yeah I agree. A person does have to be a special kind of special to go out and block a road. And any illegal activity going on, all present are guilty by association imo.

    Still a night and day difference on many aspects of the protests.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2095360

    The vast majority of the Canadian trucking industry is vaccinated with the overall industry vaccination rate among truck drivers closely mirroring that of the general public. Accordingly, most of our nation’s hard-working truck drivers are continuing to move cross-border and domestic freight to ensure our economy continues to function.

    The Canadian Trucking Alliance (CTA) does not support and strongly disapproves of any protests on public roadways, highways, and bridges. CTA believes such actions – especially those that interfere with public safety – are not how disagreements with government policies should be expressed. Members of the trucking industry who want to publicly express displeasure over government policies can choose to hold an organized, lawful event on Parliament Hill or contact their local MP. What is not acceptable is disrupting the motoring public on highways and commerce at the border.

    “The Government of Canada and the United States have now made being vaccinated a requirement to cross the border. This regulation is not changing so, as an industry, we must adapt and comply with this mandate,” said CTA president Stephen Laskowski. “The only way to cross the border, in a commercial truck or any other vehicle, is to get vaccinated.”

    Canadian Trucking Alliance Statement to Those Engaged in Road/Border Protests

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1332
    #2095368

    Like it or not squeaky wheel get’s the grease! Canada has gone way to far with taking freedoms from it citizens, this is one way to hit them where it hurts. Unions do it all the time. And please don’t tell me there just protecting there people blah blah.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20324
    #2095375

    Like it or not squeaky wheel get the grease! Canada has gone way to far with taking freedoms from it citizens, this is one way to hit them where it hurts. Unions do it all the time. And please don’t tell me there just protecting there people blah blah.

    I like how they claim almost all drivers are vaccinated. What does that matter. It’s about the people and the mandates. Not just the truckers. They are just joining.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1760
    #2095385

    If anyone wants to take the time and listen… Here is the police chief of Ottawa and his partners.. Not one injury, arrest or BS in 4 days. I do not need to fill this in with my opinion here. You can just listen if you have the time.

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