Trolling motor 12 Volt plug disconnect melted !

  • Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865112

    I had a Anderson spade type plug 50 amp smoked on me last night. Looks like the negative side is were it shorted . Any recommendations for a plug ? Coming from the battery is 8 ga wire. Coming from the Minn Kota Power Drive is 10ga . The bus 60 amp breaker tripped , not before the disconnect welded together .Thanks Don

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #1865123

    Minn kota says if run is 20 ft or longer you need 6 ga wire. If you are running wire from back of boat and its 16 to 18 ft you will probably need 6 ga. Hopefully breaker tripped in time. Probably need a better plug as well.

    Mwal

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865155

    Battery is less than 7 ft from troller, i had Anderson SB50 and they were soldered .

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1865296

    Direct connect. Had mine fail this year as well. Dang trash. I just direct connected the 6ga wire.

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865313

    Direct connect. Had mine fail this year as well. Dang trash. I just direct connected the 6ga wire.

    What do you do when charging then ? I was told to disconnect battery from troller before charging.

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4999
    #1865324

    Battery is less than 7 ft from troller, i had Anderson SB50 and they were soldered .

    Do not solder! On heavy amperage draws the wire will heat up and occasionally will melt the solder. Loosening up the connection, raising resistance, increasing heat, and eventually leading to what you just experienced. Solid crimp connections with heat shrink should be used on all high load applications. Solder should only be used on low draw applications with appropriately sized wire that you don’t want to loosen up such as fish finders, lighting, bilge pumps, etc…

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 21068
    #1865333

    I direct connect and disconnect to charge.

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865441

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Don Meier wrote:</div>
    Battery is less than 7 ft from troller, i had Anderson SB50 and they were soldered .

    Do not solder! On heavy amperage draws the wire will heat up and occasionally will melt the solder. Loosening up the connection, raising resistance, increasing heat, and eventually leading to what you just experienced. Solid crimp connections with heat shrink should be used on all high load applications. Solder should only be used on low draw applications with appropriately sized wire that you don’t want to loosen up such as fish finders, lighting, bilge pumps, etc…

    At work we had electric trucks with quick dissconnects , never thought to look at if they were soldered or crimped , thinking they were crimped High amps for sure

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865442

    I direct connect and disconnect to charge.

    Did you crimp or solder ? Right now think i will butt connect , not sure if they make a connector 8 ga to 10 ga ? What Munchy said makes sense to me

    broth82
    Posts: 185
    #1865484

    They do make a 8 ga butt connector, I do have a 2 prong plug for sale in the classifieds if you’re interested in a new plug.

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865796

    This what i ended up doing.

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    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4999
    #1865808

    Can’t tell what kind of connector that is but it does look like you may have overlapped the wires so the connector isn’t taking any of the load. If so you should be good. If not there are heavier duty butt splices available if that connection doesn’t work.

    Don Meier
    Butternut Wisconsin
    Posts: 1708
    #1865852

    Can’t tell what kind of connector that is but it does look like you may have overlapped the wires so the connector isn’t taking any of the load. If so you should be good. If not there are heavier duty butt splices available if that connection doesn’t work.

    I pulled boat to Electric service company and they crimped it for me .They used a big ass crimper. They added some wire to the 10 ga side of the butt connecter , they had no step down connectors . Its solid . I think there were no overlapping ? They trimed the insulation to half way on both sides . Keep my fingers crossed it will work. At least the troller works again , was concerned about internal damage , the 60 amp Buss breaker did its job.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1865894

    I had my Marinco 50 amp plug melt once and just replaced it in kind. I have never had the problem again. Some times chit just happens.

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