Triple digits

  • Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20354
    #2070136

    However, we can’t cite “99 cent” gasoline when the entire economy shut down and the world demand crashed as a target or even a positive that took place during the previous administration. If you think gas selling for 99 cents is a good thing and a sign of a healthy booming economy, you wouldn’t pass middle school economics nor did you pay any attention to what investments, retirement accounts, etc. did as they tanked.
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    No you can not. But there is a ton of other things to figure in, and they are all real bad right now.
    I can’t imagine e killing the oil line jobs and then asking them for help shortly later is any form of help. They just wants more charity for there pockets.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #2070137

    Gas prices are just one of a myriad of problems that are getting worse by the day. I dont see how any rational person can defend the current administration but then again I never understood how they got there to begin with.

    DING DING DING – Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

    The consumer price index, which measures changes in how much Americans pay for certain goods and services, rose 0.4% in September, the Labor Department reported Wednesday, driven largely by increases in food, shelter and gasoline. Year-over-year, prices increased 5.4%, the largest jump since January 1991.

    The people who voted this party into power would not change their mind about Biden or their party no matter what is happening, or does happen to this once great country.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 963
    #2070138

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
    When the president had the economy at a great place.

    My 401(k) was down about 6 figures at that point, that great place wasn’t so great. It’s almost like there are other factors than any one man at a given time….

    You probably are the only person in the US that lost money in their 401k during the Trump years. How the hell did you do that? The only way that was possible is if you sold in March 2020 when the market was at it’s lowest, but then it recovered rather quickly and rather nicely after that.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #2070152

    You probably are the only person in the US that lost money in their 401k during the Trump years. How the hell did you do that? The only way that was possible is if you sold in March 2020 when the market was at it’s lowest, but then it recovered rather quickly and rather nicely after that.

    Was thinking the same.

    I don’t believe gas prices are any where near a top concern for the left. They would like nothing more to get you into an electric car or on a bus/train. If gas prices were stable at .99 cents a gallon, they would slap a huge tax increase on gas.

    -J.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8167
    #2070156

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
    You probably are the only person in the US that lost money in their 401k during the Trump years. How the hell did you do that? The only way that was possible is if you sold in March 2020 when the market was at it’s lowest, but then it recovered rather quickly and rather nicely after that.

    Was thinking the same.

    I don’t believe gas prices are any where near a top concern for the left. They would like nothing more to get you into an electric car or on a bus/train. If gas prices were stable at .99 cents a gallon, they would slap a huge tax increase on gas.

    -J.

    Gas prices “stable at .99” is like saying “calmly scream”.

    The basic demand of a finite resource will never allow economic stability at that price. However, the equilibrium price point for producers and consumers of crude oil cannot be ~$100 per barrel as it currently is. That will cripple a lot of things and add to inflation. We need to shift the supply and demand curves towards a modest equilibrium point through domestic oil and foreign negotiations.

    I’d love to see long-term investment in energy independence simultaneously with advancements that make us more efficient. New energy sources are fine and research is great, but until it is economical things won’t be making any major changes for typical consumers. The market is still clearly telling us it’s more cost effective (even at the current high prices hurting all of us) to rely on oil than anything else that’s been developed. Might that change some day? Sure. Do we need oil to get us there and probably forever in some regard? Yes. Unfortunately this topic too is so polarized and politicized that we will race side to side talking about extremes going nowhere quickly…while the average American takes the hit.

    queenswake
    NULL
    Posts: 1148
    #2070162

    I sympathize with the guys with big trucks and who work for themselves, but for the rest of us, most of us drive trucks getting so much better gas mileage than they used to. I have much more things with increasing costs to worry about than a few extra bucks in the gas tank.

    For those blaming leadership for this, when have gas prices ever stayed constant for years on end?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22778
    #2070167

    Well, It looks like I’m back to wiener water soup for dinner. doah rotflol

    Just make mac and cheese with the water after the wieners.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22778
    #2070169

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>
    I’m actually thinking of trying E-85.

    Do not do it! It will be close to a wash because of poor fuel mileage and can cause problems with your fuel system.

    I ran E85 a few times and one time my wife was driving my truck to the cities right after I filled it and it started missing so dang bad and the service engine light came on. Last time I used it. I have use E88 a lot and its like 30 cents per gallon less and runs like normal.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #2070170

    Gas prices “stable at .99” is like saying “calmly scream”.

    You completely missed my point…. doah

    -J.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22778
    #2070171

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
    When the president had the economy at a great place.

    My 401(k) was down about 6 figures at that point, that great place wasn’t so great. It’s almost like there are other factors than any one man at a given time….

    Remind me to not ever get investment advice from you. My 401k was up about 60% at the end of Trumps presidency from when he took office.

    milemark_714
    Posts: 1285
    #2070174

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Sylvanboat wrote:</div>
    Remember this on Election Day.

    There is a lot more to remember than just gas. Remember that everything Brandon has done has been bad for this country. Worst president in history and we aren’t even a year in.

    But hey at least he doesn’t have mean tweets while he is burning it down.

    Jimmy Carter 2.0.Not fun days back then.Gas went to 1.38/gallon in 1980,and”supposed”to run out of oil by possibly 1990.Still waiting,but there are trillions of barrels waiting to be discovered.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11636
    #2070179

    I really don’t understand the environmentalists who are opposed to pipelines and nuclear energy. Pipelines are far more efficient and safe than rail or over the road shipping. And nuclear far superior to any other energy tech. Line 3 went right by our cabin and thru some buddies hunting land, and almost everyone local supported it. Jane Fonda flew in to protest, and the professional protestors walked to the capitol to protest as well, I saw them with a 90’s suburban and old chevy pickup as the follow/support vehicles idling down the road at about 3 mpg.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3784
    #2070195

    I guess for all the reactions to my post about losing money on my 401(k), I don’t think you really noticed the point I was trying to make. Like some of you said, my IRA recovered just fine as well. The point I was trying to make was when my balance fell off a cliff I didn’t say “oh wow thanks Trump” because I’m not dumb and I realize there were a ton of external factors in play, such as a global pandemic. There are a lot of variables to a lot of these topics, but most people seek confirmation bias instead of looking at the truths.

    MX1825
    Posts: 3319
    #2070215

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
    Well, It looks like I’m back to wiener water soup for dinner. doah rotflol

    Just make mac and cheese with the water after the wieners.

    Be young again. Ramen noodles like the college kids!!! Aren’t they like 10 boxes for $1. doah

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 3902
    #2070217

    I have much more things with increasing costs to worry about than a few extra bucks in the gas tank.

    Like what? That added together with the huge jump in natural gas and propane they say is coming and the now 21 percent hike in electricity cost Excel gonna stick us with.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17383
    #2070219

    Do not do it! It will be close to a wash because of poor fuel mileage and can cause problems with your fuel system.

    Alright John you talked me out of it lol

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17383
    #2070221

    I think there is also a severe shortage of truck drivers to actually deliver the gasoline to the stations too.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2070237

    alright! been a while since we’ve had a good ole fashion slap on the back Trump party! Hopefully this one stays open through the weekend. Reading posts like these is akin to putting a lawn chair at a boat launch.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22778
    #2070238

    I guess for all the reactions to my post about losing money on my 401(k), I don’t think you really noticed the point I was trying to make. Like some of you said, my IRA recovered just fine as well.

    So why dont you just admit that you were lying in your initial post without all the rest of your diatribe?

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #2070243

    alright! been a while since we’ve had a good ole fashion slap on the back Trump party!

    Its been even longer since we’ve had a good old fashion slap on the back Biden party – Like never. Not likely to be one anytime soon either. At least not by anyone working hard for a living.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20354
    #2070244

    alright! been a while since we’ve had a good ole fashion slap on the back Trump party! Hopefully this one stays open through the weekend. Reading posts like these is akin to putting a lawn chair at a boat launch.

    I’ve noticed all my neighbors that supported biden have now taken there flags and signs down. Probably out of embarrassment for supporting that guy. Must be tough to still be proud.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5236
    #2070247

    Anyone else here clueless on who the hel/ this Brandon person is?

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2070252

    where did i say i love Biden? you guys love to make assumptions. Im not even really into politics all that much and i really dont like Biden. Just so happens i hate Trump 1000000x more and its not because of his mean tweets.

    Carry on! Very entertaining

    Browndog
    Omaha, NE
    Posts: 306
    #2070257

    where did i say i love Biden? you guys love to make assumptions. Im not even really into politics all that much and i really dont like Biden. Just so happens i hate Trump 1000000x more and its not because of his mean tweets.

    Carry on! Very entertaining

    Can you explain why? I do not necessarily like Trump as a person, but I do believe he ran the country as a business, which is how it should be. You can’t deny that under his term that the economy was booming in pretty much all aspects. Just curious to hear your thoughts.

    Jason
    Posts: 804
    #2070260

    Won’t be long until we see over $4 a gallon for diesel.
    Just another episode for them to promote electric vehicles and make people remember how good Hope and Change worked out for the working class…

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20354
    #2070261

    where did i say i love Biden? you guys love to make assumptions. Im not even really into politics all that much and i really dont like Biden. Just so happens i hate Trump 1000000x more and its not because of his mean tweets.

    Carry on! Very entertaining

    Why do you hate him 10000000x as a leader he did a lot of positive things for our country. I feel you just dislike him so your blind to him in the actual business department

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1760
    #2070266

    Crappie is a typical liberal that will dodge every bullet you have with common anti trump excuses.

    I will ask again.. Crappie, why do you not answer these guys? For a guy not into politics you sure know a lot about Trump. One million things from what I gather. Why don’t you enlighten us about a Brandon policy that you do like and give us some feedback.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #2070267

    what difference does it make what my reasons are? Would anyone on here care or change their mind? This is Trump country here.

    I hate Trump because hes a terrible example of a human being. hes a womanizer, he pays woman to be quiet after he sleeps with them, hes a liar, hes a cheater, hes a conman, hes a draft dodger, hes a cry baby when he doesnt get his way, hes a bully, hes a rich guy who has used his power to abuse people all his life. I hate the example he sets for both children and adults. I hate seeing grown men walking around with middle fingers on their shirts and signs saying Fu*k your feelings. Hes made being an a**hole acceptable and popular. He continues to actively inflame people in our government and country to separate rather than unify. Hell Majorie Taylor has a tweet right now asking if we should separate into different countries. A senator! I could go on and on about how despicable he is but ive said enough

    I understand that before Trump came along a lot of you felt like people in Washington didnt listen to you and they didnt represent you. Im glad that someone came along and accommodated. Im just sorry it was someone like Trump – A vile scumbag who encourages the worst to come out in everyone. Ive heard a lot of people say that they dont pay attention to what kind of person the president is but they only care about their policies. And maybe thats a good approach to take but its not mine. My life hasnt changed all that much regardless of who has been in office. America has changed drastically in a cultural way since Trump came to power and the culture of Trumpism disgusts me

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