Trap Loads My Auto Will Eject?

  • dirk-w.
    Minnesota
    Posts: 485
    #2053407

    The last time I shot clays I bought a couple boxes of trap loads at Walmart (cant remember the brands/loads). They would not fully eject, making my gun effectively a single shot. I used to only shoot reloads I made myself and had no issues. I’m not interested in modifying my gun unless it’s necessary. Anyone have a load they think might have some more pop thats not a reload? I’m hoping this is an easy fix. My gun is an old Berreta A390. Thanks.

    maddogg
    Posts: 415
    #2053419

    Gave it a good cleaning/lubing, especially the recoil spring/spring guide area.

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1332
    #2053434

    Gave it a good cleaning/lubing, especially the recoil spring/spring guide area.

    X2 semi’s can be very fussy with trap loads.

    onestout
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2698
    #2053438

    Something is up with your gun, my guess is the piston is fouled up and needs cleaning. I shoot reloads that are softer than any factory load and both my 391’s have no issues cycling it. If you just want more power to force it to cycle, step up to a 1 1/8 ounce yardage load.

    dirk-w.
    Minnesota
    Posts: 485
    #2053449

    Something is up with your gun, my guess is the piston is fouled up and needs cleaning. I shoot reloads that are softer than any factory load and both my 391’s have no issues cycling it. If you just want more power to force it to cycle, step up to a 1 1/8 ounce yardage load.

    Hmmm. A quick visual led me to believe the gun was clean. I’ll give it another once over and see. It ejects all other loads flawlessly.

    Reef W
    Posts: 2757
    #2053450

    Highly doubt it’s the shells. I’ve never used any target load that couldn’t cycle my 390 unless the gun is dirty and it has to be dirty. Check for carbon buildup on the piston, that’s a likely cause if you think everything else is clean.

    roottwo
    Posts: 72
    #2053459

    I have a A391, which is different than the A390 but possibly similar in concept. No matter how well I cleaned it, I could still get 3″ mag loads to occasionally fail to cycle in the field. I wound up taking the stock apart and replacing the recoil spring. Evidently after so many shots (15 years worth), the recoil spring in the stock loses compression and you start to get poor cycling. A new spring will be shorter than your old one. It might be worth checking out.

    This is what I referenced when I replaced mine a few years ago:

    http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=101242

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22882
    #2053479

    The last time I shot clays I bought a couple boxes of trap loads at Walmart (cant remember the brands/loads). They would not fully eject, making my gun effectively a single shot. I used to only shoot reloads I made myself and had no issues. I’m not interested in modifying my gun unless it’s necessary. Anyone have a load they think might have some more pop thats not a reload? I’m hoping this is an easy fix. My gun is an old Berreta A390. Thanks.

    I have that exact same gun and I have no trouble shooting any loads with it. The only time I had it jam was when I was duck hunting and it got full of algae and crap from the bottom of the boat. I cleaned it and no issues since.
    My boys have used it shooting on the HS trap team and each have shot hundreds of rounds per season and not one single jam. I rarely even clean it.

    dirk-w.
    Minnesota
    Posts: 485
    #2053483

    I have that exact same gun and I have no trouble shooting any loads with it. The only time I had it jam was when I was duck hunting and it got full of algae and crap from the bottom of the boat. I cleaned it and no issues since.
    My boys have used it shooting on the HS trap team and each have shot hundreds of rounds per season and not one single jam. I rarely even clean it.
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    Agreed. Its been flawless for me for over 25 years. I would not know there was an issue except for those light loads.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22882
    #2053491

    Agreed. Its been flawless for me for over 25 years. I would not know there was an issue except for those light loads.

    I would start by taking the forearm off and removing the barrel and then soaking the piston in solvent and then move on to the other items mentioned by others. To be honest, I have never done anything with the spring. Since its a gas operating auto loader I dont think their as prone to issues with the springs unlike and inertia driven one. I bought mine right after high school when I was 18. That’s nearly 30 years ago now.

    stevenoak
    Posts: 1719
    #2053526

    I have a A400 Xplor. Just went thru a complete cleaning per factory video. One mistake I’d been making. In the gas operation was oiling areas meant to be left dry. More spots than you might think call for very light or no oil. Not a good old all-American oilin’. I’m guilty as anyone, if a drops good a squirt is better! Took half an hour to clean the gas chamber on the bottom of the barrel. Oil was fouled with dirt and cooked on. Mine gets about 500 rounds a month. Otherwise, very dependable.

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #2053532

    clean out the gas ports from barrel. Most likely the culprit. easily done with pipe cleaner and solvent or a tooth pick or bent paper clip. Most people do not think of how gas from shell gets to the piston.

    Mwal

    tornadochaser
    Posts: 756
    #2053656

    I would start by taking the forearm off and removing the barrel and then soaking the piston in solvent and then move on to the other items mentioned by others. To be honest, I have never done anything with the spring. Since its a gas operating auto loader I dont think their as prone to issues with the springs unlike and inertia driven one. I bought mine right after high school when I was 18. That’s nearly 30 years ago now.

    Recoil springs in gas auto loaders can get extremely dirty, and this component assembly is the most overlooked part of the operating mechanism when it comes to proper cleaning and maintenance.

    dirk-w.
    Minnesota
    Posts: 485
    #2053758

    Well, I better come clean. It was operator error. Somehow the gas valve became disengaged from the spring the last time I disassembled the gun. I re-assembled it with just the spring – no valve. I took the gun apart last night and thought “something isn’t right here.” Ugh – stupid. I was lucky to find the valve. Just shot it – perfect.

    This got me thinking. Has anyone used custom gas springs with the 390/391? I think Cole used to make a set of 5 but they are now down to 2 different springs.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22882
    #2053771

    Ha! Glad that is all it was! We’ve all been in that situation before.

    Reef W
    Posts: 2757
    #2053774

    I re-assembled it with just the spring – no valve.

    Turn your Beretta into a Benelli with this one simple trick! jester

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