The New 20 and 25 MPH Speed Limits

You guys win. I’ll be the bigger man admit that I was wrong. I’ve now sided with your side of the argument.

It’s not stupid to break the pedestrian laws that are in force to keep them as well as drivers safe—it’s really smart. I’m going to start being like you guys and break them and encourage others to do the same. It’s supposed to be nice this weekend so I think I’m going to round up as many kids as possible and show them how to play the really fun game called, “Crossing the Highway” or as I like to call it “Dodge Car.” I’ll probably bring my grill so I can cook up so burgers and brats while relaxing in the shoulder as the kiddos wind down after seeing which one could cross the highway back and forth the most times in an hour. Awarding a twenty to the winner should really get them motivated, even the little tykes.

Boy, I’ll tell you what…I’m going to be real pizzed if some driver hits one the kids. These drivers these days are out of control. Always on their cellphones, not paying attention, barely even tapping their brakes to give pedestrians the right of way while just doing the smart thing and hanging out in the roads. I mean, where else are kids going to play? It’s not like you can chuck a rock and have a good chance of hitting a park with it from pretty much anywhere in the metro. Kids are too smart for parks these days. They find them boring. They need the excitement of guessing which way a car is going to swerve and jumping the opposite of their prediction. It’s great physical and mental exercise for them. Makes them real smart.

You guys are so right, sorry for being dense and having it take this long before I saw the light of your argument.

It’s smart to disobey traffic laws, intelligent people jaywalk whenever and wherever, and if you want your kid to have a chance to be the next Einstein? You better get them started playing in the street while still in diapers. Get ’em started young so they can wind up being real smart.

How’s that? How’d I do in understanding and getting the people who opposed my argument of,

“It’s really freaking stupid to play in the street.”

Since there’s no way as many dissenting viewpoints as there were to my viewpoint could be wrong, I have nothing else but to believe the opposite is true.

“It’s really freaking smart to play in the street.”

I need to thank all of you who chimed in. I never could’ve obtained your good logic and common sense on this topic without your help. From the bottom of my heart, Thank You.

Can’t wait to see you fellas out in the streets playing “Dodge Car!”

munchy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mr.Beads wrote:</div>
Flex those net muscles bro, they lookin good

Thanks. It really means a lot coming from a dude that publicly feels the need to list his preferred gender pronouns on a fishing chat forum. I can’t say I’ve ever met a tranny fisherman before. What’s that like? When a CO checks you, when do you tell them you’d like to be referred to using He/Him? Do you state that before or after you hand them your fishing license?

Oh man….you got me you with those memes munchy, you He/Him stinker you! It’s just so emasculating….to the point I better list my preferred gender pronouns in my signature too. I don’t want people to confuse me for a biatch. That’s the whole point of why you list them, right?

Sure glad that I just wasted my time reading this…

sliderfishn wrote:

Sure glad that I just wasted my time reading this…

Yeah, think of all the productive stuff you would’ve otherwise done?

Like, “sitting and staring at a screen,” or possibly, “sitting and staring at a screen.” Just think if you didn’t waste your time reading this while sitting and staring at a screen there’s the outside chance you would’ve, “sat and stared at a screen.”

Holy ever loving SH*TB*LLS! This was the funniest thread I think I have ever read! Joneser, you’re absolutely right. The truth is cold and ugly and definitely not “PC,” but when all is said and done, it’s still the friggin truth! I cannot believe nobody here is at least seeing some of your points(if they are, they’re not speaking up). I guess it is truly that hard to set aside emotion in one’s response to — and evaluation of — a discussion and it’s differing viewpoints… Nobody wants to see a kid or anyone else get hurt, and for SURE nobody actually wants to be the one doing the hurting, but facts are facts.

I think I might’ve developed six-pack abs while reading this thread. Carry on…

joneser wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>munchy wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mr.Beads wrote:</div>
Flex those net muscles bro, they lookin good

Thanks. It really means a lot coming from a dude that publicly feels the need to list his preferred gender pronouns on a fishing chat forum. I can’t say I’ve ever met a tranny fisherman before. What’s that like? When a CO checks you, when do you tell them you’d like to be referred to using He/Him? Do you state that before or after you hand them your fishing license?

Oh man….you got me you with those memes munchy, you He/Him stinker you! It’s just so emasculating….to the point I better list my preferred gender pronouns in my signature too. I don’t want people to confuse me for a biatch. That’s the whole point of why you list them, right?

Good attempt but a complete whiff. The pronouns were written as a joke earlier this year. You can find the thread if you wish.

Sorry I hurt your feels.

joneser wrote:

Little kids are like dogs. Attempting to explain to a little kid why they shouldn’t play in the street, like most parents seem to believe is parenting these days, isn’t going to keep them out of the streets for reasons you mentioned Andy. It’s not that much more effective when explaining the same thing to a dog. I.E. the dog is going to continue going in the street

This would be an instance of when actual parenting needs to take place. You know, doing something that’s unpleasant, isn’t fun, and you’d rather not have to do it….but you do it because you love your kid and don’t want them to get run over.

I assure you that if you man up and spank the shjt out of that 4 or 5 year old every time you catch them in the street it’ll only require you doing it two or three times before they’ll never do it again.

They’ll get it and thank you for it when they’re older.

I know this is a drastic detour from the non-discipline parenting commonly seen these days where kids don’t listen at all to adults and parents stick them in front of screen so they don’t have to deal with them most of the time.

Sometimes I think Politicians are complete morons, than I come on here and read some of these comments and it makes me glad we voted them in…

A street is not just for cars you flowering idiot!

“A street is a public thoroughfare in a built environment. It is a public parcel of land adjoining buildings in an urban context, on which people may freely assemble, interact, and move about. A street can be as simple as a level patch of dirt, but is more often paved with a hard, durable surface such as tarmac, concrete, cobblestone or brick.

Darwinism became illegal some time ago. Unfortunate IMO.

Sometime around the “Contents may be hot” timeframe.

Everybody is a victim to their own ignorance.

You don’t understand an automotive tire needs air?
That’s OK. As a society we feel you don’t need to know this anymore, so we’ll install a dashboard alarm and hope that you understand a flashing light on your dash means you make an appointment with the auto doctor! That way, those of us who do know, also need to pay for this in our next vehicle…Despite understanding the concept of tires needing air and the simplistic approach of looking at your tire.
Don’t understand the flashing light means car doctor? We’ll incorporate an alarm.
Don’t understand the alarm.
We’ll tie it into the automated overwatch company who can call you and tell you your vehicle needs service….On and On we go.

Can’t use a gas engine ice auger? We’ll make a battery powered one. Just push the button.

Darwinism is dead. Join the ignorance and enjoy the bliss.

And yes i curse every time my truck beeps and displays a message “Ice possible, may be slippery”

LabDaddy1 wrote:

Holy ever loving SH*TB*LLS! This was the funniest thread I think I have ever read! Joneser, you’re absolutely right. The truth is cold and ugly and definitely not “PC,” but when all is said and done, it’s still the friggin truth! I cannot believe nobody here is at least seeing some of your points(if they are, they’re not speaking up). I guess it is truly that hard to set aside emotion in one’s response to — and evaluation of — a discussion and it’s differing viewpoints… Nobody wants to see a kid or anyone else get hurt, and for SURE nobody actually wants to be the one doing the hurting, but facts are facts.

I’m sure most if not all of us are seeing some of his points as valid.

Nowhere here did anyone suggest or promote kids playing in busy streets or anyone for that matter saying that even adults blindly walking or running out into vehicular traffic is allowable or excusable. I think we can all agree that is wrong.

But the line was crossed into a sinister viewpoint when it was openly spoken of “stupid” people deserving to be eliminated from the world of the living.

Adolf Hitler and his followers implemented a program in which a “class” of human beings were eliminated from the world of the living too.

Who/where do we decide the “stupid” from the “smart” people? Stupid people don’t just run out into traffic, some struggle with simple math. There are many mentally challenged human beings, some being merely developmental delays…others with various psychological issues.

And just as plain as that. The subject person here missed entirely that the objecting views were not that we believed it’s good for children to play in the street. But that people should be “culled from the population” is plain sick.

Not recognizing that as the issue places that person in the “stupid people” category. (IMO)

I understand where you’re coming from, Andy. And yeah, some of his statements were a little overboard. I think he was just getting more extreme with each reply and making some wrong assumptions/accusations because he was irritated that no one was acknowledging any of his points. I don’t want to get too wrapped up in this, just figured I’d throw out my .02

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

But the line was crossed into a sinister viewpoint when it was openly spoken of “stupid” people deserving to be eliminated from the world of the living.

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

I didn’t say all stupid people deserve to die. Quote me where I did if that’s the case.

I said all people who get run over are stupid. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have met the same demise as any roadkill animal you see on the side of the road.

It’s not my or anyone’s place to say who deserves to die.

Possible exceptions exist, such as murderers, rapists, child molesters, pedophiles, etc. I certainly wouldn’t blame anyone for saying those types of people should die. Someone who abducts a little kid, rapes, and murders them deserves to die. They just do. I’m not saying the state should kill them, I’m not saying I wish them dead, I’m not saying I’d pull the lever if they were sitting in an electric chair. I’m just saying they certainly deserve to die while acknowledging that it’s not my call.

Other than that I wouldn’t say anyone deserves to die. Some idiot who walks in front of traffic and gets killed I’m not saying deserves to die, I’m saying it’s obvious why they died. Stupidity. Social Darwinism. If you want to argue against those points by all means continue doing that. It doesn’t bother me because in the end it doesn’t change the fact that stupid people are the type of people who get hit by cars. Argue the opposite until you’re blue in the face. Scream and shout how they don’t deserve to die while jumping up and down. It’s not going to change anything. The same amount of stupid people will get run over regardless of whatever you want to write about Hitler, which wasn’t the least bit melodramatic by the way. What you were mentioning wasn’t even attributed to him since he got it from the American eugenics movement.

Say what you will, but I guarantee that anyone who read this thread is going to be more conscious of jaywalking, their kids or grandkids playing in or around the street due to now believing the type of driver I portrayed myself as exist. They also learned exactly what to say if they’re ever in the unfortunate position where some idiot steps out right in front of them. As long as they stick with it and don’t deviate from it when talking to the police they’ll get off since the law is on their side.

In that regard this was a great thread and very informative, in my humble opinion.

Last thing, for those of you who think my position comes from a sense of moral superiority it actually stems from not giving a fukc, but thanks for the laugh. Yeah, the guy having fun and advocating for smoking pedestrians is doing so from his high sense of morals. Hahaha!

ClownColor wrote:

Sometimes I think Politicians are complete morons, than I come on here and read some of these comments and it makes me glad we voted them in…

A street is not just for cars you flowering idiot!

“A street is a public thoroughfare in a built environment. It is a public parcel of land adjoining buildings in an urban context, on which people may freely assemble, interact, and move about. A street can be as simple as a level patch of dirt, but is more often paved with a hard, durable surface such as tarmac, concrete, cobblestone or brick.

Sometimes Wikipedia can be accurate but sometimes it gets skewed due to liberals having too much time on their hands and trying to change the definition of something to fit their warped way of thinking. In this case my assumption is so they can get away with blocking roadways and being shjitheads.

Citation numero uno on the Wikipedia page for street you listed has a single word for what’s cited; “dictionary.” Again, this is why Wikipedia is often unreliable and only an idiot would use it to support something in the manner you are on this.

Meriam Webster Dictioary Definition for “Street.”

Definition of street (Entry 1 of 2)

1: a thoroughfare especially in a city, town, or village that is wider than an alley or lane and that usually includes sidewalks

b: the part of a street reserved for vehicles

c: a thoroughfare with abutting property
lives on a fashionable street

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/street?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld

Feel free to try to use your Wikipedia definition in court if you ever break the pedestrian laws and get cited for it. I already posted the law/statute. Which one do you think the court goes by? Do you think a judge is going to go,

“You have a Wikipedia definition contrary to the legal definition and dictionary definition???

Ticket dismissed! If Wikipedia implies that you can hang out in the street then I think it’s pretty clear you’re allowed to hang out in the street!”

joneser wrote:

Ticket dismissed! If Wikipedia implies that you can hang out in the street then I think it’s pretty clear you’re allowed to hang out in the street!”

thats funny

The mental gymnastics that guy must play in his head are insane. He’s honestly comparing hitting a deer at highway speeds to hitting a little kid in the streets at 25-30.

$100 says that airheads profile picture is from Red, yet he prides himself on being one of the last few “true sportsman”. The guy’s a joke.

Selmer wrote:

The mental gymnastics that guy must play in his head are insane. He’s honestly comparing hitting a deer at highway speeds to hitting a little kid in the streets at 25-30.

$100 says that airheads profile picture is from Red, yet he prides himself on being one of the last few “true sportsman”. The guy’s a joke.

Next time list who the fukc you’re talking about so you don’t come across as being such a chode.

I’ll assume you’re talking about me.

$100 says you’re the type of dbag that throws out bets but doesn’t pay up.

The pic is taken in the cleaning house at my cabin in Crow Wing County in August, ten weeks ago. So you’re Waaaaaay Off. You’re so off that you’ve probably never even gotten a sniff of being right.

It’s been five or six years since I last fished Red, the last of the two times total I’ve fished it.

WTF is your comment on Red even supposed to mean you douche? Hypothetically, let’s pretend you’re not a moron and my pic was actually from Red. WTF are you even getting at?

Awesome shjt talking brah. It’s really insulting when people have no clue WTF you’re even talking about. You think you know what goes on in my head so let me try doing that for you.

“Derrrrh! Derrrrh! Red Lake He No Real Sportsman! Derrrh!”

Man I’m good—Nailed It!

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The only person confused by what I said is you.

As the late Groucho Marx once said, “He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot”

Take care and watch out for those bicycles

Nice rabbithole, guys!

Selmer wrote:

The only person confused by what I said is you.

As the late Groucho Marx once said, “He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot”

Take care and watch out for those bicycles

At least I’m not dumb enough to throw out bets my azz will have to cash if I don’t pay up on…. So how are you getting the $100 that you owe to me?

I guarantee I’m not the only one who didn’t get your Red Lake comment. Maybe someone else can explain why if the lineup of walleyes had been caught there they’d somehow be unsportsmanlike and warrant talking shjt over. Does anyone else understand WTF he means by that?

Brent….I mean Selmer…

Don’t think I won’t come out to Montevideo to get my hundred bucks. Someone like yourself A) shouldn’t be gambling and B) should be a man of his word. Don’t you think?

I know who you are and where to find you. Not bad for an idiot, eh Brenty Boy? You can try preaching some Ephesians at me but it’s not going to work…I can’t be saved, I might just be the devil.

It’s all just fun and games online….until it isn’t online anymore and it’s no longer fun because it isn’t a game. Or is it?

Take note that I shared my opinions, argued them, and defended them without calling anyone any names—-until it was in response to them taking a shot at me.

If you hate my take on something that’s fine. Go ahead and call it stupid, and if you explain why you think it’s stupid I’m never going to take offense. If you say it’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever heard without a single reason for why you think that, or start calling me names? I’m not going to ever actually be offended by something that trivial, but then you just made it into a game…one that you should trust me when I say that it’s a game you’re going to lose.

Childish?

No.

Childish would be calling someone an airhead and calling them a joke, and saying some really stupid random shjt about their profile pic being from Red Lake and throwing out a bet on it, simply because you didn’t like their take on something.

What I’m alluding to is more or less psychotic versus being childish.

So in addition to learning about the pedestrian laws, why they’re important, need to be followed, and what to do if you ever hit one, yet another valuable lesson learned in this thread is why you shouldn’t lob unsolicited shots at strangers online. Instead of being what you labeled them as they might just be able to figure out everything about you based off of nothing more than your screen name to a site you signed up to only a few days prior. That isn’t much to go off but it wss enough to learn basically everything really easily, starting with what the significance of the screen name is. In Brent’s case it’s after Selmer, TN. The name of the town he left his home where he was raised in SD to obtain his postsecondary education, and what lead to him meeting his wife.

What you’re going to need to do Brent is add me as a friend and once you do I’ll then send you a PM with the name of a person and an address you’re going to mail a check to for a hundred bucks. If you think this has anything to do with me wanting to take your money, you’re once again missing the point. It has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with the principle of you following through as a man of your word.

If it was about the money then I wouldn’t have bet you a hundred bucks that you were the type of dbag to not pay up on the bets you make. I did that because it means that as soon as you pay up I lose the bet I made to you, and thus owe you the hundred bucks right back. By design Brent I set this up so you’d get your money back because again, this was never about the money. It’s about you adhering to the principles you state you live by and being true to the man you profess to the world that you are.

Are you having fun yet? I know I am!

Not sure what the red lake comment means…

Those look like some nice fish

Dear Lord,

Every time I dare revisit this thread I fully expect to finally see this…

Lol, Brent or Elmer or whatever his name is made zero sense with any of that whole post. Herr derr indeed!

Wow, wasn’t going to reply again but I will just so you don’t go after whoever this Brent guy is. Brent isn’t my name, better luck next time. For someone that posts so much junk on these forums, you’ve sure gotten quite triggered when somebody calls you out for saying kids getting hit by cars is natural selection.

The Red comment was meant to get under your skin, wasn’t expecting a grown man to go completely unhinged on a Friday night. For the $100, a bets not a bet until I shake your hand, and you don’t seem like the kind of person I would shake hands with.

Again, idk who Brent is and I don’t live in Montevideo, leave whoever that guy is alone. Take a deep breath and make sure to get your prescription refilled in the morning.

joneser wrote:

Little kids are like dogs. Attempting to explain to a little kid why they shouldn’t play in the street, like most parents seem to believe is parenting these days, isn’t going to keep them out of the streets for reasons you mentioned Andy. It’s not that much more effective when explaining the same thing to a dog. I.E. the dog is going to continue going in the street

This would be an instance of when actual parenting needs to take place. You know, doing something that’s unpleasant, isn’t fun, and you’d rather not have to do it….but you do it because you love your kid and don’t want them to get run over.

I assure you that if you man up and spank the shjt out of that 4 or 5 year old every time you catch them in the street it’ll only require you doing it two or three times before they’ll never do it again.

They’ll get it and thank you for it when they’re older.

I know this is a drastic detour from the non-discipline parenting commonly seen these days where kids don’t listen at all to adults and parents stick them in front of screen so they don’t have to deal with them most of the time.

I’m surprised you don’t suggest tossing a random 4-yr old out into traffic in front of the other kids as an object lesson. Would save sore shoulders from administering whuppins and could save time by teaching whole groups of kids at once vs. having to beat them into submission individually. I’ve heard they learn better by example at that age anyway…

As for the rest…well, between utter insistence on being right no matter the conversational topic with no room for civil disagreement or discourse, to openly bragging about how mentally superior you are to the idiot who had the misfortune of denting your vehicle, to downright attempted cyberstalking and bullying intimidation of another member-including thinly veiled threats at violence, I think I’ve learned a lot about you here today.
Primarily that you act like a self important D-bag. Worse, you seem to lack much in the way of a sense of humor, something critical to full enjoyment of this particular website. You and @coletrain27 are both relatively new here, so it’s understandable if you came to believe that $h!tty behavior and bad manners were expected based on your experiences with other social media platforms, and just haven’t learned that folks here set a higher standard of behavior than what you’re used to. The good news is that, based on all you’ve mentioned about your intelligence and knowledge, you’ll learn, and I’m sure you’ll pick it up real quick!
So…even in these times, this site isn’t really about that kind of behavior, and really never was. This site for many years now has been a place for fellow fisherman(and hunters, outdoorsman, big boy toy owners, etc.) to trade stories, tips, advice, recipes, support and more. Yes, also to trade some disagreeing opinions, but by and large a group of men and women who try to be respectful to each other even when they’re actively disagreeing.
Glad we got to have this chat!

P.S. Oh yeah, since you brought it up, don’t forget to thank your Dad!

reverend wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>joneser wrote:</div>
Little kids are like dogs. Attempting to explain to a little kid why they shouldn’t play in the street, like most parents seem to believe is parenting these days, isn’t going to keep them out of the streets for reasons you mentioned Andy. It’s not that much more effective when explaining the same thing to a dog. I.E. the dog is going to continue going in the street

This would be an instance of when actual parenting needs to take place. You know, doing something that’s unpleasant, isn’t fun, and you’d rather not have to do it….but you do it because you love your kid and don’t want them to get run over.

I assure you that if you man up and spank the shjt out of that 4 or 5 year old every time you catch them in the street it’ll only require you doing it two or three times before they’ll never do it again.

They’ll get it and thank you for it when they’re older.

I know this is a drastic detour from the non-discipline parenting commonly seen these days where kids don’t listen at all to adults and parents stick them in front of screen so they don’t have to deal with them most of the time.

I’m surprised you don’t suggest tossing a random 4-yr old out into traffic in front of the other kids as an object lesson. Would save sore shoulders from administering whuppins and could save time by teaching whole groups of kids at once vs. having to beat them into submission individually. I’ve heard they learn better by example at that age anyway…

As for the rest…well, between utter insistence on being right no matter the conversational topic with no room for civil disagreement or discourse, to openly bragging about how mentally superior you are to the idiot who had the misfortune of denting your vehicle, to downright attempted cyberstalking and bullying intimidation of another member-including thinly veiled threats at violence, I think I’ve learned a lot about you here today.
Primarily that you act like a self important D-bag. Worse, you seem to lack much in the way of a sense of humor, something critical to full enjoyment of this particular website. You and @coletrain27 are both relatively new here, so it’s understandable if you came to believe that $h!tty behavior and bad manners were expected based on your experiences with other social media platforms, and just haven’t learned that folks here set a higher standard of behavior than what you’re used to. The good news is that, based on all you’ve mentioned about your intelligence and knowledge, you’ll learn, and I’m sure you’ll pick it up real quick!
So…even in these times, this site isn’t really about that kind of behavior, and really never was. This site for many years now has been a place for fellow fisherman(and hunters, outdoorsman, big boy toy owners, etc.) to trade stories, tips, advice, recipes, support and more. Yes, also to trade some disagreeing opinions, but by and large a group of men and women who try to be respectful to each other even when they’re actively disagreeing.
Glad we got to have this chat!

P.S. Oh yeah, since you brought it up, don’t forget to thank your Dad!

When did I ever say anything about spanking kids or throwing kids in the street? I agreed the lower speed limit was a good thing with all the kids in the neighborhoods in my town….