The big 10 sucks?

  • bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1739530

    5-0 In bowl games so far. The BCS is a scam and the big 10 is never good enough for them. Looking forward to a Bucky win tonight. I won’t watch any BCS crap. They can have it. Ohio St. Or Wisky would of done us proud.

    tbro16
    Inactive
    St Paul
    Posts: 1170
    #1739537

    Theres a reason why Big 10 teams are pretty close to done for the season while the majority of the SEC waits to play on New Years day. Keep chuggin’ that midwest kool aid though!

    Loomis13
    NULL
    Posts: 181
    #1739546

    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1739571

    There’s no kool aid in 5-0

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1739572

    There’s no kool aid in 5-0

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739583

    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    I don’t know what game you watched? If you take away the Bucky interception in the 1ST quarter at about the 10 yard line and Bucky scores who do you think wins that game? OS or Wisconsin?

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739587

    Anyone watch the Northwestern bowl game? I caught most of it on the radio. Pat Fitzgerald must of been on Crack or paid off the way he coached. NW had a TD lead and he goes for it inside his own 40 yd line on 4th and 3 with 2:40 left in the game.???? Earlier in the game at the 2. 4th and 2 for 1st down & 2 yds for TD. Takes a TO and calls a reverse, flea flicker play???? WTF You got Jackson who ended the game with about 160 rushing yards. Run the dam ball!!!

    Pete S
    Posts: 277
    #1739588

    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    sounds like someone who’s boat needs rowing

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #1739589

    Pissing against the wind in this weather isn’t going to end well.

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #1739594

    Dutchy go find something to do. Maybe go fishing at everts or something. jester

    Loomis13
    NULL
    Posts: 181
    #1739746

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Loomis13 wrote:</div>
    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    I don’t know what game you watched? If you take away the Bucky interception in the 1ST quarter at about the 10 yard line and Bucky scores who do you think wins that game? OS or Wisconsin?

    Really?? OSU controlled that game, I never really thought OSU was in danger. Perhaps I’m looking at the game with no bias (Nothing against that cause I do it with my team too) OSU just looked so much faster than Bucky Wisconsin just isn’t fast enough to beat the top 5 or 6 teams. Im not saying theyre bad, they are a top 8 or 9 team this season. Its early in the Miami game but they again look slow. Although they are playing Miami in basically a home game.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739757

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mxskeeter wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Loomis13 wrote:</div>
    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    I don’t know what game you watched? If you take away the Bucky interception in the 1ST quarter at about the 10 yard line and Bucky scores who do you think wins that game? OS or Wisconsin?

    Really?? OSU controlled that game, I never really thought OSU was in danger. Perhaps I’m looking at the game with no bias (Nothing against that cause I do it with my team too) OSU just looked so much faster than Bucky Wisconsin just isn’t fast enough to beat the top 5 or 6 teams. Im not saying theyre bad, they are a top 8 or 9 team this season. Its early in the Miami game but they again look slow. Although they are playing Miami in basically a home game.

    If Bucky gets that 1st score and OS has one less possession. Anything is possible. Bucky gave up the big plays I agree but that one play could of changed the momentum for the rest of the game.

    Loomis13
    NULL
    Posts: 181
    #1739760

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Loomis13 wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mxskeeter wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Loomis13 wrote:</div>
    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    I don’t know what game you watched? If you take away the Bucky interception in the 1ST quarter at about the 10 yard line and Bucky scores who do you think wins that game? OS or Wisconsin?

    Really?? OSU controlled that game, I never really thought OSU was in danger. Perhaps I’m looking at the game with no bias (Nothing against that cause I do it with my team too) OSU just looked so much faster than Bucky Wisconsin just isn’t fast enough to beat the top 5 or 6 teams. Im not saying theyre bad, they are a top 8 or 9 team this season. Its early in the Miami game but they again look slow. Although they are playing Miami in basically a home game.

    If Bucky gets that 1st score and OS has one less possession. Anything is possible. Bucky gave up the big plays I agree but that one play could of changed the momentum for the rest of the game.

    Anything is always possible for sure! Two amazing TD catches from Wisc. tonight and love the hurdle from the full back!! Wisc. pretty much always has a shot because of their style of play, especially if the avoid tunrovers. Dominating ToP and play count against Miami and the defensive line is really setting the tone right now.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739817

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mxskeeter wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Loomis13 wrote:</div>
    I agree that OSU would have faired fine in the playoff but based off the whole season, which is what the committee has to use, OSU didnt deserve to be in. All they had to do was beat an Iowa team who lost to Purdue on Senior day and they are in. However, Wisconsin would have looked foolish in the playoff. They looked foolish in the Big 10 championship game against OSU. I havent seen a team look that slow in ages. Sure the score wasn’t that bad, but it should have been a drubbing. OSU against USC was really the 5 vs 6 mathcup and OSU dominated. They looked very good.

    I don’t know what game you watched? If you take away the Bucky interception in the 1ST quarter at about the 10 yard line and Bucky scores who do you think wins that game? OS or Wisconsin?

    Really?? OSU controlled that game, I never really thought OSU was in danger. Perhaps I’m looking at the game with no bias (Nothing against that cause I do it with my team too) OSU just looked so much faster than Bucky Wisconsin just isn’t fast enough to beat the top 5 or 6 teams. Im not saying theyre bad, they are a top 8 or 9 team this season. Its early in the Miami game but they again look slow. Although they are playing Miami in basically a home game.

    Wisconsin is way too slow to keep up with Miami. whistling

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739821

    BIG 10 7-0. Big Ten Conference is weak. Hope the rest of the country keeps thinking that. I get tired of SEC this and ACC that. Big Ten is never good enough in football or basketball. Top to bottom the Big Ten is as strong as any conference in the country. Other conferences usually have 2 or 3 good teams and the rest of the teams are mediocre at best. Big Ten and Badger backer forever!

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1739822

    Big 10 is 7-0 in bowls. Maybe the BCS doesn’t appreciate the Big 10 but who cares it’s all fixed except for the final scores of this year’s bowls

    timjamison11
    Posts: 28
    #1739823

    Who was it that said… If you aren’t first, you’re last?

    Congrats at being 7-0 though….. )

    Outdraft
    Western Wi.
    Posts: 1149
    #1739853

    No Kool aid for the Midwest, it’s called Power Aid

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #1739854

    Ohio State and Wisconsin should’ve had a rematch in the playoff.

    Pete S
    Posts: 277
    #1739872

    loomis13, help me out here and I’m not trying to start an argument but since you brought it up. You talk and we hear all the time about team speed in college and how the 13-1 overrated WI Badgers can’t keep up with the top programs because they are slow. My question is, how come no one talks about it the next level? Is Tom Brady the fastest QB in the NFL? Edelman the fastest WR? Gronk the fastest TE? James White the fastest RB? None of them are even close yet they are the favorites again to win the SB. What I saw last night were a bunch of really well coached kids ready to run through a wall for each other beat a bunch of fast guys.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1739874

    Ohio State and Wisconsin game was proof that any team can step up and play their best or worst game on any given day.

    Clearly, OSU deserved the win in that game. 450 yrds Vs 300yrds, with the biggest factor rushing. OSU had 230 Vs 60. Most of the other stats were pretty equal. I’m not a die hard fan that is going to loose sleep or have a flippin heart attack over a game. But i do enjoy college ball vs Pro and watch quite a few games. This was by far the worst effort WI produced all season.

    All year, WI has won by playing consistent in all aspects of the game – Special Teams, Defense, Offense (rushing and passing). Not one aspect of their game has stood out as a power house. Rather by playing consistent across the board, they always maintained an opportunity to win, and each part contributed to the success of the other. In the case of the game with OSU, there were 3 main let downs that cost them. 1. Fundamentals (tackling) For what ever reason, the defense looked like they were throwing the game. All year, the defense executed good team work in tackling. In this game, it was all open arm bumper crap. The defense blew so many opportunities to shut OSU down that it was ridiculous. 2. Hornyboy played his worst game. He’s not a pro level quarterback and his success has been the collective effort of EVERYONE around him. Everyone here watching the game could call the play being ran just by his body language when he lined up. Again, it was a failure to execute fundamentals. He didn’t step up and was just going through the motions. 3. Coaching and 3rd down efficiency. Throughout the year, the play calling has been to the over-all strengths throughout the game – not the player or season as a whole. In this game, the play calling was horrible. When its 3rd and 7 and your averaging 1.2 yrds a carry off the left tackle – why call that play again??? Additionally, they called more short plays when it was 3 and long. Just wasn’t coached to the game, but to the seasonally history.

    On the other hand, you have an OSU quarter back that played the best game of his season. He was mentally prepared, well coached, and obvious heart to do all that he could. Pretty hard to predict what he was going to do. As for the RB and receivers, nothing special. In every scoring drive, WI has the opportunity to dump them for a loss or very little gain. urine poor fundamentals by WI gave OSU almost 300 yrds. KUDOS to OSU for playing their best game of the season and WI got their wake up call that they have to play every game, every down, every minute.

    I would enjoy seeing a rematch of WI and OSU. I think it would come down to another close game and show the differences in coaching.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3810
    #1739914

    Very good anology Randy. The poor tackling was the key to almost all of OS big gain plays. Also I didn’t think Coach Chryst helped protect Hornybrook on passing plays. If you watched the Game last night he kept a tight end or 2 to help on pass protection. Made a big difference. The receivers made some Big time catches last night also.
    Any way you look at it, it was a great season for Wisconsin.

    Loomis13
    NULL
    Posts: 181
    #1740024

    loomis13, help me out here and I’m not trying to start an argument but since you brought it up. You talk and we hear all the time about team speed in college and how the 13-1 overrated WI Badgers can’t keep up with the top programs because they are slow. My question is, how come no one talks about it the next level? Is Tom Brady the fastest QB in the NFL? Edelman the fastest WR? Gronk the fastest TE? James White the fastest RB? None of them are even close yet they are the favorites again to win the SB. What I saw last night were a bunch of really well coached kids ready to run through a wall for each other beat a bunch of fast guys.

    All true, IMO quarterbacks don’t really count for speed, especially in the NFL because they are more pro style offenses. They can pretty much sit in the pocket. While a mobile quarter back is nice, we consider the top pro QB’s ever to be pocket passers. Who are considered to be the best college quarterbacks ever?? I dont really have an answer but I would imagine probably mobile or at least more mobile than Brady and Manning. Also, the speedy quarterbacks dont usually translate to the NFL because everything is so different.

    Gronk is a whole different story. He is so good because he is way bigger than the d-backs who try to cover him and faster than the LB’s who cover him. Also has Brady throwing him the ball and Belichick calling plays. So while he isn’t the fastest he is big enough where he doesnt have to be, but still fast enough.

    I can make the same argument for Julian Edelman, that being that he has Brady and Belichick on his side. But there is another factor, and that is his route running. Its top notch. You don’t really here about route running in college, which is sad because good route runners are seemingly always getting open, and would be more so in college with the less experienced DB’s.

    Also, the speed in college makes up for so many things that the guys in the NFL arent lacking.

    I agree that good coaching is huge. Look at the teams who are good every year in college, they have the best coaches. Sure, these teams get the best recruits but they have to be coached.

    hawkguy
    Posts: 76
    #1740064

    Great bowl season for the B1G. We have definitely shown we are the best conference. OSU could play with anyone. I also think OSU would beat Wisky 8 times out of 10. No one wants to see that game.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1740099

    I always hear the rookies talk about how everyone and everything is “faster” in the NFL… that’s usually the first thing they notice. The B1G sure had a nice showing in the bowl games we played in.. should gain some respect.. but probably won’t.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4296
    #1740266

    Performance in bowl games isn’t always indicative of conference strength but it was nice to see the B10 have a good bowl season.

    All that matters now is the Huskers now have a legit coach whose team outplayed and out coached Auburn (from the over rated SEC). I can’t wait for the next few years to watch Nebraska and Wisconsin duke it out in the West.

    Go big red!

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1740278

    I can’t wait for the next few years to watch Nebraska and Wisconsin duke it out in the West.

    Go big red!

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