1″ group at 100 yards

Wow! just WOW!!!!!!!!!

Well, it’ll be good enough for this year. My wolf hunting area are 200 yard max shots. 90% of them are shorter. While a MOA group is below my standards in a rifle/load, it will work as I am out of time and monies for this season.

What’s the rifle and what is the load?

Grouse

Remington Model 700
Winchester Factory 95gr ballistic silver tip .243

I would lease ya my HOWA for the season, but see two significant problems. I’m having WAY too much fun out here in WY & CO shooting yotes and P/dogs with it AND, I don’t know if anyone could afford the security deposit I would require

Thanks Randy. I think.

What’s the twist? Have you tried lighter bullets, something in the 70-75 grain class or lighter?

My Tikka is great between 55 and 95, but at 100 she drops off. It’s not bad at 100, but then at 200 and 300 it really comes unglued. Obviously, the twist isn’t compatable with the heavier bullets, they are being overspun.

It would probably help to be able to mess with bullet seating depth as well. Generally, factory ammo is going to sit way back to minimize feed issues. It’d be interesting to see how much over-seated the Winchester rounds are.

But the first thing I’d do is try some lighter bullets. Because of the twist rate, every rifle is going to have a sweet spot.

Grouse

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What’s the twist? Have you tried lighter bullets, something in the 70-75 grain class or lighter?

My Tikka is great between 55 and 95, but at 100 she drops off. It’s not bad at 100, but then at 200 and 300 it really comes unglued. Obviously, the twist isn’t compatable with the heavier bullets, they are being overspun.

It would probably help to be able to mess with bullet seating depth as well. Generally, factory ammo is going to sit way back to minimize feed issues. It’d be interesting to see how much over-seated the Winchester rounds are.

But the first thing I’d do is try some lighter bullets. Because of the twist rate, every rifle is going to have a sweet spot.

Grouse

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9 1/8″ twist. For deer and Wolf I refuse to go with lighter bullets. 90 grain is the smallest I will consider. I would love to be shooting 105 grains.

But this is just a bandaid fix till after this season. This winter I will start playing with bullets and loadings.

I haven’t put a caliper to the factory rounds yet. I will do that to see how deep they are seated. Should be interesting.

Well, it’s usually possible to get at least some improvement, but a 9 twist is going to normally favor lighter bullets.

So I have to ask, if you want to be shooting 105 grain bullets, why not use your namesake .25-06? Seems like a slam dunk to me vs trying to make a .243 dance to your tune.

But with that said, find the right heavy bullet/powder combo and it could work out, but you might also find that the sage poet Mick Jagger had it right. You can’t always get what you want…

Only time and powder burnin’ will tell. Order up some bullets and get to loadin’. No way to tell in theory, ammo is one area where it’s all about the actual results.

Grouse

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Well, it’s usually possible to get at least some improvement, but a 9 twist is going to normally favor lighter bullets.

So I have to ask, if you want to be shooting 105 grain bullets, why not use your namesake .25-06? Seems like a slam dunk to me vs trying to make a .243 dance to your tune.

But with that said, find the right heavy bullet/powder combo and it could work out, but you might also find that the sage poet Mick Jagger had it right. You can’t always get what you want…

Only time and powder burnin’ will tell. Order up some bullets and get to loadin’. No way to tell in theory, ammo is one area where it’s all about the actual results.

Grouse

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Been there, done that with the 25-06. The .243 is the latest toy in the collection and has yet to draw blood. Once it does and I get a great grouping. It will be on to the next toy (caliber yet to be determined).

100 Gr. Sierra Gameking
Lapua Brass
36 gr IMR 4064
Federal GM 210M primers
2.658 OAL (.010 off the lands)
.271 bushing (.002 nk tension)
Shot in a stock Remington 700 SPS with a 9 1/8 twist barrel

105gr AMAX
47.0gr Retumbo
CCI 200 primers
Lapua brass
2.284 to ogive,
0.12 in. jump
9 1/8 twist

Cheers

I’ve been looking for those Win 95gr Ballistic tips and can’t find them anywhere.Even tried all 3 Cabelas in Nebraska on the way out west. There tack drivers for me!!

Walmart in Hibbing MN. Not sure of others.

Looks like a good load Jeff shared…

My .243 Tikka SS shot factory Rem green box 80gr into a (possible) one hole group. I hunted deer with Winchester (Nosler) CT 100gr ammo and it shot under MOA also…