Play shooting is over for me…

Until 9mm is available and affordable. Shot up all my target reserves Sat. Helluva good time.

That stinks!! I’m planning to do some shooting on the opener weekend since we won’t be fishing. I might need to do an ammo count prior so I ration properly.

That blows. I don’t have much ammo, now, so I am very hesitant to shoot it. Might just have to break out the shotguns for some fun.

It’s such a downer, this ammo shortage. You can’t count on getting anything and the longer it goes, the more people are prone to hording when they DO see ammo, and so it’s a downward spiral.

Reloading components are almost non-existant, especially bullets and primers for small rifle loads. I have no idea if/when we’ll see small rifle primers back in stock in any numbers. I don’t shoot a lot compared to many, but still if I can’t get 1000 primers per year, I’m going to run pretty low. I don’t know when I’ll next find even 100 primers, much less 1000.

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We need to have a FLOOD of ammo show up on the shelves, all at once, if anyone’s going to overcome the impulse to pounce! Me? I don’t play shoot much anyway so even when I do find something I should be scooping up, I’m leaving it lie for the others to fight over. Right now, the only thing I can think to do, to help sway the circumstances, is to simply not buy anything. Problem with that is that I feel like I’m in select company in doing so. It’s trying to find a solution to get all the clueless numbnuts on board that’s driving me crazy. You can’t tell ’em nothin’ because you’re no one of significance to them and they already know everything anyway. Frustrating. But the quickest way out of this shortage SHOULD be to eliminate the demand.

DHS has an ammo inventory of 246,451,600 rounds! Why???

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DHS has an ammo inventory of 246,451,600 rounds! Why???

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Massive gopher problem. Little b@stards really mess up a nice lawn.

Grouse

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DHS has an ammo inventory of 246,451,600 rounds! Why???

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Massive gopher problem. Little b@stards really mess up a nice lawn.

Grouse

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I do believe there will be some return to equilibrium soon, although I am not sure that the “gun culture” will ever return to what it once was. So many on the fence, or undecided, folks have turned on us. Guns have also been leaving a sour taste in the mouth of many in recent times. America and guns have been synonymous for ages, and I am a very proud supporter of responsible ownership and use.
That being said, I’ve always kept a decent amount of “stock”, and have done my best to trim down the variety of caliber weapons that I own. Currently, I own only two handgun calibers, with a variety of platforms. .40SW and 10mm get the nod for my applications. Ammo is starting to come back to the shelves, Cabelas in Richfield, WI states that ammo comes daily on a truck, but they never know how much or what kind. I saw .40 and 9mm there, but only one brand type of cheap FMJ with an inflated price. No thanks.
Airsoft rifles and AMMO are abundant though, start a new trend?

Fleet Farm in Brooklyn Park had a butt load of FMJ .38 Special yesterday (but that’s about it). I was tempted, but at $39 for 100 rounds, I held off.

Sadly, I think that is going to be the “normal” rate for FMJ going forward.

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Perhaps, but I didn’t need it, so I decided to pass on by and not contribute to the hoarding.

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DHS has an ammo inventory of 246,451,600 rounds! Why???

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Massive gopher problem. Little b@stards really mess up a nice lawn.

Grouse

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Massive GOPhers problem is exactly what I thought they feared!

All the current prices will become the new prices until product STOPS moving again. Prices only drop when product HAS to move.

All the way around….. the best thing we can ALL do is take a break for a while. Even the clueless ones will catch on because suddenly, shelves are filling up and the money they think they’re going to make on the internet turns into a “no-sale”.

What could make matters worse…. again….. is Oblahama is vowing to rekindle the gun control issue during and following any 2014 elections.

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All the current prices will become the new prices until product STOPS moving again. Prices only drop when product HAS to move.

All the way around….. the best thing we can ALL do is take a break for a while.

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I hate to think of it, but I don’t think prices will come down much at all. As history always repeats, we’re doomed to the higher prices. After this outrageous hoarding episode, manufactures will cut production to a rate that will still maintain a demand – with little to no back stock in manufacturing inventory. Don’t believe it? Ask any drywaller, roofer, siding applicator, general contractor, window supplier,…..all living proof of what controlled supply and demand does for pricing A house that I could build in 2009 for 280K is now about $330K. PLUS, that is after almost every contractor I use has reduced their labor rates, which means the cost of materials is up considerably more than the gross numbers show.

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All the current prices will become the new prices until product STOPS moving again. Prices only drop when product HAS to move.

All the way around….. the best thing we can ALL do is take a break for a while.

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I hate to think of it, but I don’t think prices will come down much at all. As history always repeats, we’re doomed to the higher prices. After this outrageous hoarding episode, manufactures will cut production to a rate that will still maintain a demand – with little to no back stock in manufacturing inventory. Don’t believe it? Ask any drywaller, roofer, siding applicator, general contractor, window supplier,…..all living proof of what controlled supply and demand does for pricing A house that I could build in 2009 for 280K is now about $330K. PLUS, that is after almost every contractor I use has reduced their labor rates, which means the cost of materials is up considerably more than the gross numbers show.

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Hadn’t thought of that….. I was just thinking that if they’re going to continue business activity, profits, and growth, they’d have to keep manufacturing and if no one was buying, they’d have to make a move. Well, I hadn’t considered if that “move” was to cut production.

The only part of that possibility that I’m still unsure of is why any business would WANT to cut production, unless there was an outside influence that might effect their livelihood. So if the warehouses filled up from no consumption, that could actually cause them to cut production instead of cutting price to stimulate the market? Did I say that right? If I did, then I think I understand what you’re telling me….. and I’m almost praying I’m wrong! That would just suck but my gut tells me you just might, with almost absolute certainty, be right on this.

Product in a warehouse becomes an asset and the company reflects a “profit” even though it isn’t sold. Plus add in the added holding cost of product on the shelf. Manufacture pays for labor, materials, outside costs such as electricity, maintenance…. just to sit on the shelf. It’s one thing when huge orders are going through.
As an example – carpet mills. There are only a few major carpet mills that make most of the carpeting. When houses were popping up like dandilions, they ran most common colors in huge runs and warehoused it. It was flying out by the truck load, so the shelf time was minimal. Now, they only run a few colors in huge lots. Other colors that aren’t as common will be accumulated by orders, then ran to fill with virtually no warehouse time.

CFO’s had an obligation to the shareholders to maintain/increase profits. The American way. What better way is to control demand, produce less, and make more. Sucks for you & I, but the shareholders are the ones that pull the puppet strings.

Looks as though there’s some light at the end of the tunnel…. Found a WalMart last Friday that had 100round 9mm ammo and 5.56mm FMJ in decent qusntities and there wasn’t even anyone picking it up! Customers were plentiful but no one was buying! Also noticed that Fleet Farm got some 17HMR, 22S, 223, 22-250, 38 Special, .357, 40 S&W, 44 mag, and yes….. 45 Auto!!! Quantities still aren’t great but at least there was some around and word is that it’s been showing up more steadily. Hopefully things will be decently stocked soon and the “panic” will subside.

Yeah, I noticed some ammo at Fleet Farm (.38 Sp, .357 Mag, .380, .40 S&W) that wasn’t flying off the shelf! Here’s hoping that we’re getting back to “normal”.

Gander in Woodbury had a full shelf of target 5.56 last Friday. Even a couple boxes of target 9mm but it was too expensive still.

WalMart had 100 round boxes for $22.47. Before the “drought”, 50rd. boxes were commonly $11-14.00, depending on what it was and where it was being sold. I thought it to be a fair price given it’s “2 boxes”…..