.243 vs 22-250

  • coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #210301

    Hey guys I’m looking to get into some coyote hunting this winter. I’m thinking about a .243 or a 22-250. I was looking at the savage axis and from the reviews I’ve read it seems like a decent gun for the money. It will most likely just be used for predator hunting and target shooting for fun so I don’t need anything real fancy. From what I see ammo is about the same price for both calibers. Any opinions? Thanks

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #127486

    I’m a 22-250 fan so I’d go that route for sure. Thinking my next Axis will be in that caliber.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #127494

    22-250 in a V-Max 50gr is my standard outfitting package!!!! High shoulder shots will blow a big exit hole. Quartered through the ribs and out the chest is a dead dog and a hole about the size of a quarter.

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #127496

    Just in case you didn’t see it, here’s my IDO review of the Savage Axis.

    I have both a .22-250 and a .243.

    If you want just a rifle for crazy-flat varmint vaporizing fun, then the .22-250 is the way to go. Honestly, if you think about it, the 250 shoots so flat it’s like it defies gravity. You find yourself saying things that with an ordinary caliber, wouldn’t make sense. Such as, “Well, it’s only about 410 yards away, so better aim a couple of inches high.” Ummmm, yeah. That wouldn’t be working out with a .223, that’s for sure.

    Really, prairie dogs and a .22-250 is about the most fun you can have with your pants still firmly ensconced around your waist.

    If you want versatility, go .243. There’s a lot of overlap with the .243 and .22-250 in that they both will work well with varmint-weight bullets, but if you want to go up to 80+ grains for deer or pronghorn, the .243 is the one to take you there.

    My father just whacked a deer with my .243 a couple of weeks ago. 100 grain SP on top of Varget dropped it like a wet sack of do-do. He’s an old school ought six guy and even he was impressed at the terminal performance that a combination of light and fast produces. I’ve just cooked up a fearsome 90 grain load that I’m test driving as well. Whitetails, you can run, but you’d better be a loooooooong ways off when you stop. . .

    Different horses, different courses.

    Grouse

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #127498

    You guys love the 25-06 as well dont you?

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #127502

    Quote:


    You guys love the 25-06 as well dont you?


    As long as it isn’t made by Glock.

    Sorry. Ralph made me do it.

    Grouse

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #127506

    it goes boom, doesn’t!;

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127508

    hey thanks guys and thanks grouse for the review! i think ill check fleet farm and see if they have a 22-250 with blued barrel and no scope. i would like to have a decent scope and hate to buy the combo and take the scope off right away and never use it.

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #127513

    $329 is a pretty standard price for the blued Axis. Not really worth the hassle of online ordering for that.

    I will also mention that the Ruger American is worth considering. There were some rebate deals on this gun that made it very attractive price wise.

    Not sure if 4 Seasons Sport in Red wing is a Savage dealer, but Id start with them.

    Grouse

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127519

    I was looking online and I think gander had them for $299

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #127529

    Quote:


    Quote:


    You guys love the 25-06 as well dont you?


    As long as it isn’t made by Glock.

    Sorry. Ralph made me do it.

    Grouse


    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #127531

    Anyone think there will be another sale on the Axis prior to Xmas. I stole mine last time and should have bought two.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #127543

    This thread has put me over the edge. I’m getting a 22-250. I’m a tight wad so I’m looking at most of the guns we’ve discussed in the past. I gotta give Chris at 4 Seasons a call today. Leaning towards the Savage Axis again. Now, on to optics…

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127544

    Let us know what he has for prices

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #127547

    if you want more versatility, go .243
    it’ll do in the song-dogs but will easily help you with that deer hunting trip down the road. Plenty of over the counter loads available too.

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127549

    Quote:


    if you want more versatility, go .243
    it’ll do in the song-dogs but will easily help you with that deer hunting trip down the road. Plenty of over the counter loads available too.


    i thought about that but i hunt in zone 3 and cant use a rifle so i dont think i would ever need it for that

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #127550

    Quote:


    This thread has put me over the edge. I’m getting a 22-250. I’m a tight wad so I’m looking at most of the guns we’ve discussed in the past. I gotta give Chris at 4 Seasons a call today. Leaning towards the Savage Axis again. Now, on to optics…


    I would be interested to know if Four Seasons carries Savage. If they do, it would be better IMO for people to go there to buy.

    The Big Box stores sell a lot of the Axis, but it’s such a hassle trying to find out if a given store has the rifle in a given cartridge actually in stock. And then ordering one. . . God help you, but the number of things that a big box sporting goods employee could screw up when ordering a rifle is too great to count.

    In the event that Four Seasons reads this, do you also do Ruger and do you have the American in stock? Price and any current rebates?

    Grouse

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127551

    i like to buy from the smaller shops but the last time i tried going to a smaller local shop in rochester for a new shotgun they would not price match the big stores. i could see a $10-20 difference but when its $50-100 or more difference then i have to take my business somewhere else.

    johnee
    Posts: 731
    #127552

    I have not seen a large price variation with Savage. In general, the shelf price at the big box stores is the same as the small stores, the main difference seems to be the big boxes can run good sales on occasion, especially on entry-level rifles like the Axis.

    However. . . I will say that a certain well-known chain of outdoors stores here in the midwest has in my experience, always, always, always been the highest priced. Believe me, I’ve tried to buy from them. I gave them a chance for the last 3 guns I’ve bought and every time they were higher than even the small shop that I ended up using.

    Grouse

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #127553

    I just talked to Chris at 4 seasons. They are a Savage Arms dealer and would be more than happy to compete for your business! Give a Chris a call at 651-388-4334 and I’m sure he’ll get you taken care of. I’ve heard nothing but good things on their customer service!

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127555

    Quote:


    I just talked to Chris at 4 seasons. They are a Savage Arms dealer and would be more than happy to compete for your business! Give a Chris a call at 651-388-4334 and I’m sure he’ll get you taken care of. I’ve heard nothing but good things on their customer service!



    sounds good thanks randy, i actually work in red wing so ill give him a call tomarrow while im at work. i better take some cash with me just in case

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #127556

    Stop in a see Chris. I just got off the horn with him. He’s got a couple of the 22-250 on the shelves. I’m getting one. His price is as good as any other place I’ve looked and since 4 Seasons is an IDO sponsor, I’ll be spending my dollards there.

    So, who is going through Red Wing and can deliver a rifle.

    paulz
    Posts: 39
    #127558

    Thanks Kooty,
    We do carry the axis in several calibers as well as the ruger American and remington 770. All three are great guns for budget minded shoppers. The Rugers are a little tough to get a hold of right now. I believe I have two .243 in stock right now. Thats it. For those looking for something more we have Tikkas, Howa (both snow camo and Black), Ruger Hawkeyes, and can get you just about anything else you want. Our normal price on Savage Axis is $329. Make sure to mention IDO and I will work with you as much as I can. I have two 22-250 without scopes in stock and 1 with scope. We stock a fulline of scopes as well. These will sell quite well for the next month and I will attempt to keep the shelves stocked. If you know you would like one and are driving a ways call me first and I will make sure I have one in stock.

    Thanks for the discussion and oppoptunity to sell to you guys. I really appreciate the business.

    Although we can not always compete with the big stores I try to buy smart and do our best to stay at or below their prices. I will admit on occasion their advertised price is far under my cost. #%&*#*^! I enjoy calling them on those occasions to see if they have one in stock. I would say 60% of the time they do not or have very few.

    Thanks, Chris Winchester

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #127583

    Chris, are you a Burris dealer also by any chance? I don’t have a source to recommend people to in MN for Burris Scopes.

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127601

    Well I picked up a axis 22-250 today from 4 seasons. Also got a bushnell trophy xlt 4x12x40 have to say the guys working there are very friendly and helpfull. I will definetly be going there in the future for guns or etc. Thanks a lot Chris and josh!

    Can’t wait to get out and shoot it!

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127603

    Will do thanks again. One tip I would give is get the tall scope rings with this gun. I got a 4x12x40 scope and the bolt will slide across the bottom of the scope and your scope cover a little bit. And I got the medium rings. The bolt action with this gun is a little higher than most

    coletrain01
    Rochester MN
    Posts: 193
    #127618

    No problem Chris. I’ll see if I can get time latter next week

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #127622

    What rings did you go with. I’m really liking my Burris XTR rings. They look cool and they are beefy!

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #127627

    Kooty, there is a replacement top ring (pictany) available that allows an adapter for a camera on those XTR rings

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