My old .270 brought back to life!

  • Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #210120

    I have had a Browning A-Bolt .270 hunter model sitting in the closet for about 6 or 7 years. I have put hundreds and hundreds of factory loads through this thing with nothing better than a 3″ group at 250 yards. Too inaccurate for hunting, so it just sat in the closet. I’ve been tinkering with some different loads….and had been getting better results. I changed gears and tried my best combination of seating from the lands and powder load with a magnum primer. Chrony clocked it at 3091fps

    Here is the final sight in sheet – 5 rounds @ 250 yards shot at about 5 second intervals to see how the heated barrel would respond. Love it! Now if only there was a few deer in WI to try it out on……

    blue-fleck
    Dresbach, MN
    Posts: 7872
    #92977

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    Now if only there was a few deer in WI to try it out on……


    Don’t waste such a great shooting gun on those gov’t sheep! Light up some ‘yotes with that tack driver.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #92978

    Ouch!

    I can’t get a group like that with my .22 rifle at 25 feet!

    tony_p
    Waterloo, IA
    Posts: 1792
    #92981

    Wow nice group

    norseman
    FAIRMONT MN
    Posts: 559
    #92985

    WOW! Don’t lose that recipe! Ya got a winner there.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22570
    #93000

    3″ @ 250 yards, not good enough for hunting…? alot of boys I seen at the range, need to hang her up then….. Nice group, but I think your expectations are higher than most.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #93001

    G – My expectation are what suits my needs. When I apply 3.1# to a trigger, I expect to know exactly where the POI is before it reaches it. Some people aren’t as concerned….and I guess that is good enough for them. But, I do admit this mass production hunting rifle was better than I thought. Part of getting lucky with dialing in a recipe pretty quick.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #93002

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Now if only there was a few deer in WI to try it out on……


    Don’t waste such a great shooting gun on those gov’t sheep! Light up some ‘yotes with that tack driver.



    LOL – I built a HOWA 22-250 specificly for that application. Tack driver out beyond 500 yards

    jeff_jensen
    cassville ,wis
    Posts: 3053
    #93025

    A little concerned on the shot that’s a half inch low Randy………better start over

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #93026

    Nice grouping and congrats on finding the secret recipe!

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18736
    #93051

    You must have meant 25 yards right? That group pictured is impossible at 250 yards. Isnt it?

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #93190

    That is Two-Hundred-Fifty yards, bench shot with a Lead Sled, Burris Extreme Tactical scope 4-16, wind @ Zero MPH, H4831SC powder (57.1g) / Barnes TSX 130gr seated .045 off the lands OAL guage (3.731) / R/P Brass, Fed primer

    Here is the same gun / load at 337 yards. I still need to test the trajectory for longer range so i can identify all my mildots to specific yardages

    sauger
    Hastings ,MN
    Posts: 2442
    #93229

    wow!! I’d say she’s ready to put the down on some fur

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18736
    #93321

    Got it.WOW! That is something else. I had no idea you could overlap shots at that range. I do now.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #93058

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    A little concerned on the shot that’s a half inch low Randy………better start over


    Jeff, Just realized when I scanned the target, it is up side down…ooops No matter how hard I try, human error will always be a factor. Though I would hate to admit it was me…

    Dave Ansell
    Rushford, MN
    Posts: 1572
    #93522

    Way to get her dialed in and congrats on doing your homework before heading out to the stand – way too many guys who don’t shoot the gun at all outside of the season.

    jeff_heeg
    Marshfield WI.
    Posts: 479
    #93748

    Nice looking group Randy!

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #93812

    Randy, just to be clear. These are shots taken on a lead sled correct? So the gun can shoot a sub-MOA group at 250. But that’s not testing the shooter.

    I’m the same way, precision is everything and I’m not happy unless it’s perfect.

    I (the shooter) can shoot a 3″ group at 300 yards over the bench. But that takes a gun that can shoot way better (tighter) than that.

    jeff_heeg
    Marshfield WI.
    Posts: 479
    #93886

    The gun is just a tool that can be fine tuned to a consistent barrel whip in turn giving you the best group possible at that given day.

    Powder choices by brand will dictate how consistent the rifle will shoot on any given day do to temperature changes, some powders are very reactive to temp changes so impacts will change from a 40 degree day versus a 70 degree day.

    If the gun is shooting well in a gun rest or sled it should be able to repeat the same results fired by a person in any of the preferred positions, the only thing that will change the effect other then weather conditions for exp. – wind. is how well the shooter can repeat the shot from one to the next, if he or she is able to set up and fire the shot with a repetitive cheek weld and trigger pull with a natural point of aim versus using muscle tension to point, the bullet holes will be very comparable to a gun held in a rest.

    Just my opinion

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #93895

    Quote:


    The gun is just a tool that can be fine tuned to a consistent barrel whip in turn giving you the best group possible at that given day.

    Powder choices by brand will dictate how consistent the rifle will shoot on any given day do to temperature changes, some powders are very reactive to temp changes so impacts will change from a 40 degree day versus a 70 degree day.

    If the gun is shooting well in a gun rest or sled it should be able to repeat the same results fired by a person in any of the preferred positions, the only thing that will change the effect other then weather conditions for exp. – wind. is how well the shooter can repeat the shot from one to the next, if he or she is able to set up and fire the shot with a repetitive cheek weld and trigger pull with a natural point of aim versus using muscle tension to point, the bullet holes will be very comparable to a gun held in a rest.

    Just my opinion


    And it’s a good opinion. However that takes an incredible amount of work. My cousin is an Olympic Grade shooter and competes at that level (yet to make the Olympics however).

    She can produce bench quality groups. A common shooter doesn’t have the time it takes to achieve that skill level. That takes a ton of practice.

    jeff_heeg
    Marshfield WI.
    Posts: 479
    #93956

    Ruger

    I did not intend to contradict your comment, I was just replying in order of logging on and I only stated a few factors that can work for or against repeatable long range accuracy in which are only my views, the discipline is far less then in archery as far as dedication and practice.

    I will also state that do to my complete change in my life do to a very demanding position in my new job that my life has taken a drastic spin. I at this point have sacrificed 90 % of my earlier free time that was dedicated to competitive archery across the United States, my opportunity to have time to be in the woods with cameras and I have a very limited amount of time at this point that is free to spend in the woods let alone with my wife and family. This has also burdened me of being here to reply and to communicate with all the folks here as well as bring forth interesting info and articles, my hope is that in a year or so that I will be able to contribute more but until then I apologize for the lack of.

    I really apologize to everyone for the false sense that extreme accuracy can be achievable and not out of reach for the everyday person trying to live that moment.

    There’s a ton of good knowledge that can be gained here on this site we are so lucky to have such a great group of folks.

    Back to the main thread

    Randy
    Congrats on a good load, have a great time with the 270

    Take Care

    Jeff

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13675
    #94600

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    Randy, just to be clear. These are shots taken on a lead sled correct? So the gun can shoot a sub-MOA group at 250. But that’s not testing the shooter.



    That is very correct. I’m no where as steady as I was at 25 years old. bummer getting old

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