Please take care of your firearms

  • neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #210048

    Well, got my buddies rifles out last night and broke them down to clean them up. It simply amazes me how some people think they take care of their firearms. Both the .270 A Bolt and the .243 Rem 700 had rust spots on the barrel, crown, and bedding post. The inside of the barrels were simply scary filthy. Copper fouling, powder residue and a dirty greasy grim. No wonder he couldn’t get them to shoot straight. Spent about 4 hours cleaning them up last night. Got majority of the mess cleaned up. I’ve got some hard to remove copper fouling still left. I ran out of my goto cleaner, Barnes CR-10, so I’ll have to order more before I tackle that job again. Oh well, all in good fun.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #70898

    Especially after this season, with all the rain and drizzle, it gets in every nook and crannie…. Just cleaned and oiled the .06 and put her away last night One hint, when it is a rainey season like the last, I carry Rem Oil clothes with me, to wipe down after a wet day in the field…. once a rust spot starts, it doesn’t magically go away… you have to stay on em Good reminder post Ruger

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13679
    #70904

    I agree on the can of Rem oil takes about 2 minutes to wipe a firearm down and keep it in good shape. Good reminder to all

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #70906

    I agree as well. Here is the e-mail I sent my buddy.

    Dang dude. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a filthier weapon. The barrel on the .270 was badly in need of cleaning. It actually had chucks of junk in there. Not to mention the copper fouling, rust, and powder residue in there. I seriously think that was your problem. We’ll see how I can get it to shoot now.

    The .243 was filthy as well. Copper fouling in the barrel. You’ll see pictures of rust below the receiver. Some surface rust noted on both barrels as well. Rifles are pretty well built these days, but they do need some TLC.

    I like to wipe them down with a cloth covered in Rem Oil every time I’ve touched them. Once a year I break them down and clean the barrels. If they’ve been in the snow, rain, or gotten wet somehow I’ll either open the action and put them upside down to allow them to dry out and then spray them with Rem Oil. If they got dirty and wet (usually a duck gun) I’ll tear them down and clean them and get the water and dirt out.

    wade
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 1737
    #70923

    I go through each one twice a year but after each use they get sprayed and wiped with Rem Oil

    JacobNohner
    Posts: 217
    #70926

    What is the best bore cleaner out there??? 2 get rid of copper in the barrel???

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #70929

    Quote:


    What is the best bore cleaner out there??? 2 get rid of copper in the barrel???


    The best I’ve found is Barnes CR-10. Midway USA carries it. I’ve used Hoppes, Butches Bore Shine and Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber® 2-in-1 Bore Cleaner with limited sucess. They all work well for the not-so-hard to remove copper fouling.

    The Barnes CR-10 seems to get even the hard to remove. FYI; it’s a terrible stuff to work with, it sucks to breath. However that’s all I use to clean my bore.

    life1978
    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #71000

    I got a smaller unltra Sonic cleaner that fits bolts and such if its really bad an you want to try it out.

    Anonymous
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    #71024

    great reminder ruger! just broke down one of the .22’s that got heavy use, and dnag was it full of fouling…

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #71132

    Anyone have a “how to” properly clean your gun?? I’d be interested in reading it. Either a link to something that has been previously posted, something copied and pasted here, or a newly written how-to post, if you guys have the time. It would be nice to see what steps you guys take and what products you like to use for each aspect of the cleaning.

    Thanks!

    Mike

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #71160

    Great Post Ruger. The lil Bro and I might tackle this tonight!

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #71184

    Field Strip the Rifle
    Dismantle the firearm. Read the manual to the firearm on how to do this. On bolt-action rifles, it is usually only a matter of releasing the bolt. On auto-loading rifles, the tear-down will be more complex.
    Identify the parts you are cleaning. The two primary areas that will require cleaning are the barrel and the receiver and action.
    The barrel is the key factor attributing to the accuracy of the rifle. Be cautious with the muzzle-end of the barrel and the beginning of the rifling (inside the barrel), as these are the two most important things to affect accuracy and can easily affect it adversely, if damaged.
    Receiver and action is the bolt, chamber, and trigger assembly. The bolt holds the ammunition in the chamber and the trigger assembly initiates the process which makes the firearm go boom. This area primarily affects reliability and ease of operation, but can also reduce accuracy if poorly maintained. For most rifles, the stock and receiver are one unit, and cannot be dismantled without tools.

    Clean the Bolt and Chamber
    Wipe down all components using some paper towel (or cloth, but this is less important to be lint-free).
    Remove as much of the thick, caked-on carbon buildup created by the friction of use. Also wipe off any old oil and all unburnt powder buildup.
    Be sure to wipe the inside of the magazine well (if available), the ejector, and the area around the chamber. You will find certain areas turn the paper towel black (clean these areas more).
    On this step, precision is not required; wipe it quickly.
    Spray solvent (preferably designed to be safe to continually contact your skin, like M-Pro 7) on all possibly dirty components.
    Many rifle manufacturers design components (even polymer and the stock) to be safely used with any solvent, but be sure there aren’t types of solvents the manufacturer warns against.
    A liberal amount of solvent is better than not enough.
    Let the solvent sit for a couple minutes. Make sure any area with dirt, carbon buildup, or unburnt powder has a healthy amount of solvent on it, soaking in.
    Scrub the whole gun with a brush (no metal bristles — like a toothbrush). This works in the solvent and loosens up the buildup on the gun. Try to get into all the nooks and crannies.
    On a bolt-action rifle, be sure to scrub all nooks and crannies of the bolt (when it is removed from the receiver).
    On a gas-operated rifle, special care may be required while cleaning the gas rod area, gas tubes, or gas inlet.
    Wipe the gun clean with lint-free cloth (you can buy pre-cut cloth, but a clean old shirt or socks also work). Get everywhere you put the solvent (should be pretty much everywhere) and wipe it until it wipes clean.
    Wipe down the whole gun (inside and out) with a solvent-soaked lint-free cloth again, and look again for any areas turning the cloth dark, and clean it.
    Use the pick to get off any thick chunks of carbon or powder buildup, or buildup in tight parts of the gun.
    The most common area with carbon deposits is in the chamber. Buildup occurs in the corners of the pieces of metal.

    Clean the Barrel
    Use a bore brush to break any buildup free from the barrel.
    Run the full length of the barrel at least five times (more if you have shot a lot since the last cleaning).
    Be sure not to reverse direction with the brush (in the barrel), push it all the way through, then all the way back (letting the bristles changed direction outside of the barrel).
    Swab the barrel with a cloth soaked with solvent. Repeat with clean cloths (still soaked in solvent) until a cloth comes out clean. Run the swabs from the receiver to the muzzle (in only this direction).
    The number of times needed to clean the bore will vary greatly depending on many variables. It may take as many as 20+ passes to clean the barrel properly on a very dirty rifle.
    Use a bore guide to prevent rubbing the metal rod against the initial rifling.
    Use a rod which is made from a soft metal like aluminum. Harder metals can easy scratch your barrel.
    Swab the barrel with a cloth soaked in copper solvent. This removes any copper which may have come off of a jacketed bullet during it’s travel down the barrel. A few passes may be required (repeat until no copper particles are visible on the cloth, then do it once more).
    Do not oil your bore. There is no advantage to adding gun oil down the barrel, and this increases the chance of buildup of dust and powder/copper/lead residue which can lead to jams and squibs (when a bullet gets caught in the barrel). Contrary to popular belief, oil does not neutralize solvent.
    Swab the barrel with a dry cloth before you start shooting. This produces consistent results and ensures the solvents are neutral, while keeping your barrel dry for the first shot.
    Clean your barrel every ten shots if you require top accuracy. The bore brush is not a required step for standard cleaning, but may be desired for a complete clean.

    Finishing Up
    Oil all the components requiring lubrication. Often the manual for the gun will have specific areas needing oil, but a quick look at where the gun is wearing will give you a good indication of the needs.
    Be sure to oil the areas around rotating parts, such as the bolt and trigger assembly.
    Try to keep oil away from the openings into the firing pin housing (oil is a collector of dirt and powder buildup, and buildup around your firing pin can prevent it from firing).
    Don’t forget to oil the bolt rails and the grooves in which they ride.
    Reassemble the rifle and make sure all parts are functioning properly.
    Wipe down the whole gun and remove any excess oil.

    Tips
    If you are having a tough time with some thick buildup, apply more solvent and let it soak for a while.
    If you aren’t able to get all the areas solvent has gotten into, no worries. The solvent will eventually evaporate or the oil you spray on later will neutralize it.
    A very light (almost invisible) coat of oil on the exterior of metal parts will prevent rusting by preventing moisture saturation.

    This pretty much describes the cleaning, we were required to do on our M16’s in the military. Quite honestly, some “War Games”… I didn’t even shoot a round off…. that would cut cleaning time in half…

    whittsend
    Posts: 2389
    #71274

    Nice post G!

    What particular products do you guys like to use at each step??? Especially for bore cleaning, getting rid of fouling, copper build up, etc…???

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #71285

    I use Shooters Choice… still on my first bottle from years ago….granted, I am not a bench shooter or anything, just routine cleanings after sighting in and seasons end.

    Shooters Choice

    Brad Juaire
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 6101
    #71289

    Excellent post big G! Thank you for sharing your in-depth knowledge on gun cleaning.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #71311

    No kidding.. when I was in the Army, at first I was all gung ho, shot every round they would give me…. we would play war games, using blanks with a muzzlebreak, and the lasers, I would shoot 200+ rounds in an hour….. then it would be back to the Armory…. and clean, clean, clean, clean, clean and then clean a little more…. you would take your weapon to turn in and the inspector would be standing there with a q-tip…. if he found one speck of even gray (not even black) you were booted back out to re-clean… I soon learned, getting “killed” early was easier

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #74416

    I’ve fallen in love with the Hoppes Bore Snakes! If I shoot so much as a round, a quick pass with the bore snake takes away most of the problems before they have a chance to set in! If you have a lot of calibers, like I do, the investment adds up fast but it really saves on needing much of the other cleaning products because I only use them at the end of the year and because I’ve left little to nothing in the barrell anyway, cleaning is a whiz! Between the bore snakes and Rem Oil patches, taking care of our guns everytime we’re in the field really eases up on the annual chore.

    Now if they just had some sort of short cut for the actions/receiver areas!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #102098

    bump

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #106684

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=643582&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shooting%20-%20Gun%20Cleaning-_-PriceCompListing-_-643582

    Sweets Bore Cleaner. THIS STUFF CUTS COPPER. It’s a little nasty to breath but it works. I had two Ruger M77 .280s that my brother needed worked up. As usual the barrels were copper fouled.

    Now that the rifles are clean. I’ll get them in for some stock work (glass bedding and floating) as well as some trigger work. Once that’s done I’ll work up a couple loads for those guns and he’ll have some tack driving rifles.

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