I will second..or third, the S&W Sigma. The early models had a bad rap that has carried over (unjustifiably so) into the new models thus keeping the price low. I would argue the 9VE or 40VE Sigmas (newest version) are the best bang for the buck, literally! I have never had a FTF, FTL, or FTE with my Sigma. Given my load count is still int the 100’s not 1000’s since it is relatively new, it has been impressive none-the-less. I have not read any real complaints about the new guns except for the heavy trigger pull, which is actually a plus for me. I have no intention of stealing this thread, but do you have a IWB holster for your Sigma Chris? If so, what do you use? Thanks