Again…what’s the rest of the story??

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #209938

    Man arrested after 2 people say he displayed gun
    St Cloud Times staff report

    A man who police say displayed a gun to two people from Waite Park was arrested under suspicion of making terroristic threats, according to a report from St. Cloud Police Department.

    Joseph Michael Carey, 26, of Rush City was taken to Benton County Jail.

    Police were sent at 4:39 p.m. Sunday to Minnesota Highway 23 and 14th Avenue Southeast.

    A 20-year-old man and 20-year-old woman were in their vehicle when they say a man in a yellow pickup displayed a gun.

    They called police, and officers stopped the man in the pickup at Highway 23 and Sixth Avenue South.

    A 9 mm handgun was found under the front seat of Carey’s truck.

    He had a permit for the gun.

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    So maybe I’m biased…but I sure would like to know the other side of the story.

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #43336

    He can’t just go about waving it around though can he?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #43337

    No…unless he was threatened himself.

    That’s kinda what I’m getting at…what happen that would make him put it out?

    Not enough info to take sides…but there’s no info from his side.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #43346

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHAPPY

    big G

    chappy
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 4854
    #43487

    Quote:


    HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHAPPY

    big G


    Thanks Big G

    mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #43510

    Wow, and to think just a year ago you were 29 or what is 39. I can’t remember anything anymore.

    Happy Birthday!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #110801

    The “rest of the story” appears.

    Waiting on permission to post.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #110822

    Looking forward to hearing the other side of the story.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #110823

    Go ahead Brian …

    I am interested to hear the story too…. pretty much forgot about this post, other than it was Chappys birthday

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #110848

    Unedited>>>

    BrianK …

    I was recently searching my standard name line and place of birth through google to see and ensure what stories are comming up in relation to my name.

    First off I would like to thank you for not believing what the media (st. cloud) stated about me.

    I in fact have had a valid carry and conceal since 2005 and to this day still hold my carry and conceal. I am a military veteran who has deployed (at the time of the incident) four times to fight in the middle east.

    The real story of the incident was that two 20 year old adults (both with priors for drug use, under age consumption of alcohol, and to be best summed up by my lawyer at the time, “punks”) decided to try and run me off the road. They first began flashing their brights and swerving at me along highway 10, then i decreased speed and they pulled along side of me and began to flip me off, and crossing the lane in order to get me to further slow down. I again slowed down to almost 20-30 mph just to allow them to continue on and they would not. At that time the i had no idea how many individuals were in the vehicle and I took the only course of action I could take at the time. If I had stopped my vehicle entirely I believe they would have stopped their vehicle as well.

    Moments after I ended the situtation I continued on into St. Cloud to visit a friend. When I arrived in the city limits of St. Cloud I was surrounded by St. Cloud Police and at gun point taken from my vehicle. I cooperated, declared that I had a hand gun in my possession and provided not one but three valid carry and conceal certification from MN, NH and NC.

    I will fast forward to when an attempted book throwing ensued. After spending three days in solitary confinment while waiting to be processed and charged. I finally recieved what I was being charged with. Felony Terroristic Threats, 5th Degree Assault and I believe Brandishing a Firearm (it has been a long time).

    After challenging each charge in court, presenting my military record, and spotless criminal record, the Benton county prosecutor reluctantly dropped all charges, except a petty disorderly conduct. She asked that I apologize to the individuals in the other vehicle for my behavior. Reluctantly and disengenously I did and the immaturity of one of the individuals was so apparent the Benton County prosecutor looked embarrased.

    Defending yourself in my opinion in the state of Minnesota is not worth the heart ache, monetary funds, depression and stress it puts on not only yourself but your family. I fought in court for almost 10 months defending myself against this.

    >>>End<<<

    >>>Start<<<

    > Hi Joe,
    >

    > Would you allow me to post your side?
    >
    > As an outsider looking in, I would say the only thing you did wrong was
    > to not call the police yourself. I’m GUESSING had that happened the two
    > “punks” would have the hassle and not you.
    >
    > I wasn’t there…but I can see myself doing exactly the same as
    > you…and I wouldn’t have called it in either, but your story educated me.
    >
    > Have you felt any repercussions from this indecent? If you don’t mind me
    > asking.
    >
    > I’m getting ready for a guide trip. So I’ll not be around for a while.
    >
    > BK

    >>>END<<<

    >>>START<<<

    Brian;

    I have no issue with you posting it.

    The first 10 months were miserable. I tried to put it off into the back of my mind and focused on finnishing my BA. Which i did successfully. I had to resign from my post active duty job as a corrections officer. After the charges were dropped the State of Minnesota contacted me and I had to attend a session to justify why I deserve to keep my drivers liscense. Eventhough my charges were dropped and I was never found guilty of anything vehicle related, nor weapon related. I again had my lawyer (who is probably one of the most amazing individuals ever) attend the session with me and he took apart the members of the meeting and since then I have not had one issue with the State of Minnesota. In 2010 I requested that the petty disorderly conduct be expounged from my record and without issue it was. After about a year worth of the headache the stress from that whole ordeal was pretty much gone. I’ve gone back into active duty because to be honest 90% of civilians will never respect the judgement, experience and assessment of a multiple combat veteran. So I would prefer to be in the enviroment that I am comfortable in, respected and can trust others. I have gone over my decision within those few moments over and over again quite often. I can honestly say I would not have reacted any differently based on what i assessed at that moment and time. If i had the foresight to know the repercussions though I would not have made the same choice.

    Thank you,

    Joe

    >>>End<<<

    JS12
    Posts: 3
    #111014

    Gentlemen this is me. If you have any questions about this or what the whole process post utilizing your weapon I am open to discussing it.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #111105

    Hey Joe, did anybody ever try to figure out what these idiots were trying to do, by flashing their lights at you and flippin the bird ??? Not that it would change anything, but what was their major malfunction in the whole thing ? Just curious

    JS12
    Posts: 3
    #111111

    Nope. Pretty much the focus on the investigation was on me. We attempted to pull traffic cam footage to find other vehicle that were at the set of lights where this all began to no avail.

    The story that the two people in the vehicle continued to say was that “some random guy decided to pull a gun on us for no reason.” After some further questioning they admitted that they were flipping me off but would not admit to swerving, or driving recklessly during that time period.

    It was pretty frustraiting because their story changed at least twice but the county prosecutor still wanted to go after me.

    neusch303
    Posts: 539
    #111144

    Quote:


    Nope. Pretty much the focus on the investigation was on me. We attempted to pull traffic cam footage to find other vehicle that were at the set of lights where this all began to no avail.

    The story that the two people in the vehicle continued to say was that “some random guy decided to pull a gun on us for no reason.” After some further questioning they admitted that they were flipping me off but would not admit to swerving, or driving recklessly during that time period.

    It was pretty frustraiting because their story changed at least twice but the county prosecutor still wanted to go after me.


    Unfortunately Joe this is all to common. Nobody cares about pieces of garbage like that, including the DA. However you are a prime target as you have something to loose.

    This is pure speculation of course, but I’d bet the DA has an issue with the CC law and our rights. I base that speculation off of life experiences.

    I’m glad you’ve been able to move past this and retain your rights and lifestyle.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #111493

    I remember seeing a while back, that a guy I know who has his CC, got a Badge, it is a conceal and carry badge and looks like a real law enforcement badge… would it be legal to flash this, when being harrassed by someone on the road ? They might actually think your an off duty policeman and it would probably end immediately. Just wondering if that is a legal thing to do or would they say you were impersonating a law officer ???

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #111566

    Here it is… anybody know ??

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #111577

    I have one of these ‘conceal -carry ‘ badges and have flashed it while in my vehicle, and the ‘idiots took off in another direction and I never ever heard a word.

    As for the legality of it, I have no idea.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #111624

    Quote:


    I have one of these ‘conceal -carry ‘ badges and have flashed it while in my vehicle, and the ‘idiots took off in another direction and I never ever heard a word.

    As for the legality of it, I have no idea.


    That’s what I was thinking… next stop, the rest stop, to clean out their shorts

    JS12
    Posts: 3
    #111710

    Did you hear the news story awhile back about the guy who was carrying in an open carry state and was arrested by a police officer just for carrying his weapon? It was a big issue on fox news awhile ago. The guy also got slammed with a “Disorderly Conduct.” Starting to get tired of those two words tremendously. It’s a catch 22 law that needs to be clarified.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
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    Posts: 59998
    #111739

    What state Joe?

    Hey thanks for posting here.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22584
    #111839

    Probably this one… Wisc

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
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    #111864

    Thanks G.

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