Red Dot Sights

Hey Steve,
I put this on the TC that I bought last year CLICK HERE
It has zero magnification(Wisconsin regulations), 4 different reticles viewable in red or green and 4 different brightness settings(very important)…..
On the range it worked great!! ….just didnt see anything big enough to shoot with it last year
BUT, If the regs allowed it I would get a scope with magnification, like the Nikon BDC so I could have a longer effective range…with zero power dot I am accurate to 100 yards, after that it is hard to be consistant.

Hey Steve,
I put this on the TC that I bought last year CLICK HERE
It has zero magnification(Wisconsin regulations), 4 different reticles viewable in red or green and 4 different brightness settings(very important)…..
On the range it worked great!! ….just didnt see anything big enough to shoot with it last year
BUT, If the regs allowed it I would get a scope with magnification, like the Nikon BDC so I could have a longer effective range…with zero power dot I am accurate to 100 yards, after that it is hard to be consistant.

IMHO the worst sight ever made. I bought one about 6-7 years ago for my shotgun. The biggest problem I had with mine was keeping it sighted in. I missed a deer at 40 yards standing still, so I walk back up the hill disgusted only to see more deer 25-30 yards away….yep missed. Went out by the truck and couldn’t even hit a 12 pack box at 20 yards, and this gun was driving tack when I sighted it in. So a few years go by and I seemingly forget the pain it cause me before and I put it on my old muzzelloader only to shoot over the top of a nice buck. Take it out the next day to see where it was hitting and it was 8″ high at 50 yards 2 days after I had it sighted it for 50 yards. So my experiences have been pretty bad with them, I just couldn’t keep the sight from moving, I don’t know if it was from recoil or if they are just that sensitive or maybe I just got a junk one, which ever the case I know I will never own one again! For a muzzelloader I would go with a regular 1X scope with crosshairs.

IMHO the worst sight ever made. I bought one about 6-7 years ago for my shotgun. The biggest problem I had with mine was keeping it sighted in. I missed a deer at 40 yards standing still, so I walk back up the hill disgusted only to see more deer 25-30 yards away….yep missed. Went out by the truck and couldn’t even hit a 12 pack box at 20 yards, and this gun was driving tack when I sighted it in. So a few years go by and I seemingly forget the pain it cause me before and I put it on my old muzzelloader only to shoot over the top of a nice buck. Take it out the next day to see where it was hitting and it was 8″ high at 50 yards 2 days after I had it sighted it for 50 yards. So my experiences have been pretty bad with them, I just couldn’t keep the sight from moving, I don’t know if it was from recoil or if they are just that sensitive or maybe I just got a junk one, which ever the case I know I will never own one again! For a muzzelloader I would go with a regular 1X scope with crosshairs.

I have dropped a few deer with my red dot and really like it. It is nice to pull up and not worry about crosshairs. After reading Muskyman’s post I was thinking maybe bad mounting. When I purchased my scope my guy at the gun store said a middle of the road scope would be fine but don’t get cheap mounts and rings. He said the sheer kick from a shotgun would test any mounts. I went with a Bushnell Whitetail scope and Leupold mounts. Just my opinion. I am sure after a few more people chime in you can make a good decision. Good luck!

I have dropped a few deer with my red dot and really like it. It is nice to pull up and not worry about crosshairs. After reading Muskyman’s post I was thinking maybe bad mounting. When I purchased my scope my guy at the gun store said a middle of the road scope would be fine but don’t get cheap mounts and rings. He said the sheer kick from a shotgun would test any mounts. I went with a Bushnell Whitetail scope and Leupold mounts. Just my opinion. I am sure after a few more people chime in you can make a good decision. Good luck!

….it is also extremely critical(with this type of scope especially) to tap the scope lightly after each adjustment as the adjustment knob will turn but the sight will not adjust until it is jarred or shot. I was really frustrated the first time that I went to the range because it was all over the target and after trying that it worked great.

….it is also extremely critical(with this type of scope especially) to tap the scope lightly after each adjustment as the adjustment knob will turn but the sight will not adjust until it is jarred or shot. I was really frustrated the first time that I went to the range because it was all over the target and after trying that it worked great.

Great suggestion Mark, forgot to mention that.

Great suggestion Mark, forgot to mention that.

I was thinking about the Truglo® Red-Dot Sights

I was thinking about the Truglo® Red-Dot Sights

steve
if you are gonna shoot over 75 to 100 yards i would not use the red dot even the smaller moa or adjustuble moa cover to much target to be very consistent with them. however i do like them in thick timber where you have short shots.

steve
if you are gonna shoot over 75 to 100 yards i would not use the red dot even the smaller moa or adjustuble moa cover to much target to be very consistent with them. however i do like them in thick timber where you have short shots.

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Steve I use this style on my ar-15. I absoulutly love it. I have shot several round through it and its still acurate. I can change the brighness of the dot for various times of the day. I think its a little nicer as far as a scope style you dont have to look through a tube. Just my opinion. they are a little more expensive though that is one draw back.

Also for minn. I dont think you can have a scope mounted on your muzzle loader. I think it has to be no magnification at all. check the regs first.

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Steve I use this style on my ar-15. I absoulutly love it. I have shot several round through it and its still acurate. I can change the brighness of the dot for various times of the day. I think its a little nicer as far as a scope style you dont have to look through a tube. Just my opinion. they are a little more expensive though that is one draw back.

Also for minn. I dont think you can have a scope mounted on your muzzle loader. I think it has to be no magnification at all. check the regs first.

In MN you can not use any scope at all. Unless you have a special permit because of eye problems an then I am pretty sure only non magnification scopes.Peep sites are legal though but I dont think they would be good for quick shots if you need one. Hopefully this changes soon because the are excellant 200+ yard guns with a scope

In MN you can not use any scope at all. Unless you have a special permit because of eye problems an then I am pretty sure only non magnification scopes.Peep sites are legal though but I dont think they would be good for quick shots if you need one. Hopefully this changes soon because the are excellant 200+ yard guns with a scope

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steve
if you are gonna shoot over 75 to 100 yards i would not use the red dot even the smaller moa or adjustuble moa cover to much target to be very consistent with them. however i do like them in thick timber where you have short shots.

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Thanks Todd that is the kind of info I was looking for, I want a site or scope for long range shots for the rifle season up north, thats why I was thinkng of getting a Red dot site. Maybe I should be looking at Nikon™ Omega Muzzleloading Riflescopes instead.

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steve
if you are gonna shoot over 75 to 100 yards i would not use the red dot even the smaller moa or adjustuble moa cover to much target to be very consistent with them. however i do like them in thick timber where you have short shots.

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Thanks Todd that is the kind of info I was looking for, I want a site or scope for long range shots for the rifle season up north, thats why I was thinkng of getting a Red dot site. Maybe I should be looking at Nikon™ Omega Muzzleloading Riflescopes instead.

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In MN you can not use any scope at all. Unless you have a special permit because of eye problems an then I am pretty sure only non magnification scopes.Peep sites are legal though but I dont think they would be good for quick shots if you need one. Hopefully this changes soon because the are excellant 200+ yard guns with a scope

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That is correct durring the muzzle loader season you can not use a scope, however durring the riffle season and shot gun season I belive you can use a scope on your muzzle loader.

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In MN you can not use any scope at all. Unless you have a special permit because of eye problems an then I am pretty sure only non magnification scopes.Peep sites are legal though but I dont think they would be good for quick shots if you need one. Hopefully this changes soon because the are excellant 200+ yard guns with a scope

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That is correct durring the muzzle loader season you can not use a scope, however durring the riffle season and shot gun season I belive you can use a scope on your muzzle loader.

You are correct there steve. You can use a scope during rifle/shotgun season but I would think it would become a hasle factor to re-sight it in every time you change. Personal opinion but I would either use a rifle or shotgun and keep my muzzle loader for that season only. Even shotguns can be effective at long range with proper shell and pratice. 150 yds for todays shells is possible, I wouldnt recomend it unless it was practiced but its possible.

You are correct there steve. You can use a scope during rifle/shotgun season but I would think it would become a hasle factor to re-sight it in every time you change. Personal opinion but I would either use a rifle or shotgun and keep my muzzle loader for that season only. Even shotguns can be effective at long range with proper shell and pratice. 150 yds for todays shells is possible, I wouldnt recomend it unless it was practiced but its possible.

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Personal opinion but I would either use a rifle or shotgun

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Yup I eventually want to get a rifle but I do not think it is in the budget this year that’s why I am thinking of going with the muzzle loader.

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Personal opinion but I would either use a rifle or shotgun

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Yup I eventually want to get a rifle but I do not think it is in the budget this year that’s why I am thinking of going with the muzzle loader.