Caliber Question….

  • krisko
    Durand, WI
    Posts: 1364
    #506612

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    7 mm is a .280 caliber or .284 not sure which one but it is smaller than the .06 increadibly fast and would nock out a Elk!


    Thanks for catching that…I looked to check and didn’t get back right away… I for some odd reason was thinking a 7mm was a .380…and that didn’t seem right…oh well ya caught it anyway…thanks

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #26578

    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #507015

    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?

    eyebuster
    Duluth
    Posts: 1025
    #26591

    Suprisingly no, I do not feel the diference in kick. My dad who has a bad shoulder Crossbow license and all will still shoot the 7 mag. Probably would not want to get a real light one though, I’m guessing that a synthetic model would kick real good. The hardest part about a mag is sighting it in, but when you have a big game animal in front of you its no problem!

    eyebuster
    Duluth
    Posts: 1025
    #507108

    Suprisingly no, I do not feel the diference in kick. My dad who has a bad shoulder Crossbow license and all will still shoot the 7 mag. Probably would not want to get a real light one though, I’m guessing that a synthetic model would kick real good. The hardest part about a mag is sighting it in, but when you have a big game animal in front of you its no problem!

    hooknfinger
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1290
    #27009

    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die

    hooknfinger
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1290
    #510017

    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #27071

    Matt I just might take you up on that some time, I live just a mile down the road from the gun club. Mostly this gun would be used for deer hunting up north but I do not want to have to buy another one for elk for that once in a life time trip

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die


    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #510422

    Matt I just might take you up on that some time, I live just a mile down the road from the gun club. Mostly this gun would be used for deer hunting up north but I do not want to have to buy another one for elk for that once in a life time trip

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die


    hooknfinger
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1290
    #27094

    I go down there every once and a while to sharpen up my “skills” if you can call them that. Im hoping to start getting out more on the trap shoots. shoot me a PM whenever ya are planning on heading out there ill bring the toys.

    Quote:


    Matt I just might take you up on that some time, I live just a mile down the road from the gun club. Mostly this gun would be used for deer hunting up north but I do not want to have to buy another one for elk for that once in a life time trip

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die



    hooknfinger
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1290
    #510805

    I go down there every once and a while to sharpen up my “skills” if you can call them that. Im hoping to start getting out more on the trap shoots. shoot me a PM whenever ya are planning on heading out there ill bring the toys.

    Quote:


    Matt I just might take you up on that some time, I live just a mile down the road from the gun club. Mostly this gun would be used for deer hunting up north but I do not want to have to buy another one for elk for that once in a life time trip

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Thanks for the info guys
    So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?


    the 7mm will kick more but nothing much

    If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns

    As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06

    As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed

    im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die



    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #27115

    The advantages I have noticed with the WSM cartridges is that you can get the rifle in a shorter action. If it wasnt for the belt on the standard magnums, I dont think they would have sold as many WSM’s. As far as the CRF actions,why would you need one? The 700 Rem. is a push feed and is known as the most accurate out of the box rifles there has ever been. Most benchrest shooters use a 700 action or improved copy of one.

    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #510988

    The advantages I have noticed with the WSM cartridges is that you can get the rifle in a shorter action. If it wasnt for the belt on the standard magnums, I dont think they would have sold as many WSM’s. As far as the CRF actions,why would you need one? The 700 Rem. is a push feed and is known as the most accurate out of the box rifles there has ever been. Most benchrest shooters use a 700 action or improved copy of one.

    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #27200

    That was a popular move,putting the sako extrator in a 700.Now they dont recomend it,it weakens the bolt hence accuracy suffers. My opinion on CRF is that my remingtons have never failed to extract nor have my M70s. I respect your opinion,just wanted to show mine.

    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #511485

    That was a popular move,putting the sako extrator in a 700.Now they dont recomend it,it weakens the bolt hence accuracy suffers. My opinion on CRF is that my remingtons have never failed to extract nor have my M70s. I respect your opinion,just wanted to show mine.

    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #27242

    Ever do any work with lamenated? Its my favorite stock matereal. I just aquired a 25-06 project rifle(700 BDL )thinking of a boyds lamenate. If it doesnt shoot it will become a 6.5-284 or a 6.5-06.

    Dobber
    S.W. WI
    Posts: 113
    #511792

    Ever do any work with lamenated? Its my favorite stock matereal. I just aquired a 25-06 project rifle(700 BDL )thinking of a boyds lamenate. If it doesnt shoot it will become a 6.5-284 or a 6.5-06.

    elkmantom
    Posts: 45
    #28013

    I guided for Elk for over 10 years. The advice that I would give is to choose something in 30 cal. or larger that you can handel the recoil from and still be very accurate with. Elk have an extreamly thick hide and very heavy bone. You can kill an elk with a .243 IF you have JUST THE RIGHT ANGLE but with a heavy (200 Grains or larger) you are not limited to just broadside and only rib cage. If you can shoot a 338 well and handel the recoil from it that would be my choice. You can shoot at a pretty good angle with that cal. from 200 yards and still get a one shoot kill.

    elkmantom
    Posts: 45
    #519289

    I guided for Elk for over 10 years. The advice that I would give is to choose something in 30 cal. or larger that you can handel the recoil from and still be very accurate with. Elk have an extreamly thick hide and very heavy bone. You can kill an elk with a .243 IF you have JUST THE RIGHT ANGLE but with a heavy (200 Grains or larger) you are not limited to just broadside and only rib cage. If you can shoot a 338 well and handel the recoil from it that would be my choice. You can shoot at a pretty good angle with that cal. from 200 yards and still get a one shoot kill.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #28122

    I’m with Elkmantom… The .300 Win Mag is still the benchmark for Elk with a 180-220gr well constructed bullet.

    I have a 24″bbl 30.06 that I handload 168gr Barnes TSX bullets for Elk. I practice A LOT off my shooting sticks and keep my shots under 300yds.

    Before that I always used a .300 Wby mag. with 180gr Nosler partitions.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #521143

    I’m with Elkmantom… The .300 Win Mag is still the benchmark for Elk with a 180-220gr well constructed bullet.

    I have a 24″bbl 30.06 that I handload 168gr Barnes TSX bullets for Elk. I practice A LOT off my shooting sticks and keep my shots under 300yds.

    Before that I always used a .300 Wby mag. with 180gr Nosler partitions.

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