Firing Pins?

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #209749

    I was in a gun shop the otherday…over heard as salesman talking with a customer about a rifle. The SM told the customer to dry fire it and when the customer asked about damage to the firing pin…the salesman said that was true years ago.

    With todays steel “you can dry fire all day long and not hurt them”.

    I’ve never heard this before. Are snap caps a thing of the past?

    emover
    Malcom, IA
    Posts: 1939
    #17726

    I always thought it was a no no. Thanks for clarifying.
    Nice signature Mike

    dave

    emover
    Malcom, IA
    Posts: 1939
    #449702

    I always thought it was a no no. Thanks for clarifying.
    Nice signature Mike

    dave

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #17727

    Quote:


    test the crispness of the trigger


    That’s what he was doing…any thoughts on pistols and revolvers?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #449727

    Quote:


    test the crispness of the trigger


    That’s what he was doing…any thoughts on pistols and revolvers?

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #17735

    Very rare situation where I will dry fire a pistol. My “Rule” is never. Biggest reason is safety. I always assume any and all guns are loaded. So, I just have it wired into my brain not to do it.

    -J.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #450164

    Very rare situation where I will dry fire a pistol. My “Rule” is never. Biggest reason is safety. I always assume any and all guns are loaded. So, I just have it wired into my brain not to do it.

    -J.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #17736

    Just an example……

    In the military, we fired thousands of thousands of rounds through are M-16s…….we dry-fired all the time……..

    I never wore out a firing pin from it…….although “some” did need replacing, it wasn’t common…..

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #450168

    Just an example……

    In the military, we fired thousands of thousands of rounds through are M-16s…….we dry-fired all the time……..

    I never wore out a firing pin from it…….although “some” did need replacing, it wasn’t common…..

    yellowdog
    Alma Wi
    Posts: 1303
    #17745

    Everyone please pay attention to Jon’s post.There is no such thing as dry fire. The gun is always loaded! It may seem corny to some but it is the only safe way to behave.Once many years ago I let the night before deer hunting excitement get the better of me and I dry fired my shot gun in my bedroom. It took out a 6 in chunk of baseboard and sent a 1 oz slug to the furnace in the basement.

    yellowdog
    Alma Wi
    Posts: 1303
    #450480

    Everyone please pay attention to Jon’s post.There is no such thing as dry fire. The gun is always loaded! It may seem corny to some but it is the only safe way to behave.Once many years ago I let the night before deer hunting excitement get the better of me and I dry fired my shot gun in my bedroom. It took out a 6 in chunk of baseboard and sent a 1 oz slug to the furnace in the basement.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #17746

    You guys are right…there’s been many a mirrors replaced from the quick draw wannabe using an “unloaded” gun.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #450493

    You guys are right…there’s been many a mirrors replaced from the quick draw wannabe using an “unloaded” gun.

    ferny
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 622
    #17747

    Ditto the earlier post about the M-16’s.
    I often helped out my buddy the armorer while checking in M-16A1 and A2’s after cleaning. We ran a cleaning rod down from the muzzle into the empty chamber then they were dry fired and dust cover closed before locking them up. I think it might have actually been because of a Army regulation? It was done in every unit I was in.

    Ferny.

    ferny
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 622
    #450518

    Ditto the earlier post about the M-16’s.
    I often helped out my buddy the armorer while checking in M-16A1 and A2’s after cleaning. We ran a cleaning rod down from the muzzle into the empty chamber then they were dry fired and dust cover closed before locking them up. I think it might have actually been because of a Army regulation? It was done in every unit I was in.

    Ferny.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #17750

    The only true consistency where I’ve seen firing pins where out was at trap ranges, where thousands and thousands of rounds are fired. But it still isn’t that common, it is just the most common place you will find it occuring.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #450713

    The only true consistency where I’ve seen firing pins where out was at trap ranges, where thousands and thousands of rounds are fired. But it still isn’t that common, it is just the most common place you will find it occuring.

    TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #17980

    Ditto that again on the M16. We dry fired it a lot of times and I never say a bad pin. Noone ever told us it was bad.

    TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #454414

    Ditto that again on the M16. We dry fired it a lot of times and I never say a bad pin. Noone ever told us it was bad.

    r.o.c.
    Somerset, WI
    Posts: 41
    #18094

    HERES THE WAY OF DRY FIREING. YOU SHOULD NOT DRY FIRE 1) A RIMFIRE FIREARM, 2)A BREAK ACTION FIREARM SUCH AS A DOUBLE BARRELED SHOTGUN, 3)OR A FIREARM THAT HAS A FIXED FIRING PIN ON THE HAMMER.(MAINLY SEEN IN REVOLVERS)

    REASON BEING FOR #2 IS THAT THE BARREL IS STRONGER THAN THE FIRING PIN, IF THE BARREL ISNT FULLY OPENED OR CLOSED THE PIN CAN STRIKE THE BARREL DENTING, BENDING OR BREAKING THE PIN, LEADING TO A WEAK PRIMER STRIKE OR NO PRIMER STRIKE.

    THE REASON FOR #2 IS THAT SINCE THE FIRING PIN IS PART OF THE HAMMER IF THE FIRING PIN DOESNT STRIKE SOMETHING(PRIMER, SNAP CAP ETC) THE HAMMER STRIKES THE FRAME, DUE TO THE LAW OF INERTA,(RISISTANCE TO CHANGE) THE FIRING PIN WANTS TO KEEP GOING. DO THIS ENOUGH AND YOU END UP WITH A STRESS FRACTURE IN THE FIRE PIN IE NO FIREPIN.

    REASON FOR #1 IS SIMILAR TO #3

    SO WHY CAN I DRY FIRE MODERN DAY PISTOLS RIFLES SHOTGUNS??
    BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FREE FLOATING FIREPIN SYSTEM. MEANING THE FIREPIN IS NOT PART OF THE HAMMER, AND IS CONTAINED BY A SPRING. THIS DOES NOT HURT THE FIRING PIN TO DRY FIRE THEM. I PERSONALLY DRY FIRE MY CARRY GUN APX. 20 TIMES A DAY WHEN I FIRST PUT MY GUN ON. IT HELPS ME WITH MY DRAW, AND MY FRONT SIGHT- TRIGGER SQUEEZE ANY OTHER QUESTION JUST ASK!!!

    YES, RULE #1 ALL GUNS ARE ALLWAYS LOADED. I HAVE A WALL IN MY HOUSE THAT I DRY FIRE TO. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL….. DIRT!!! FIND YOUR SELF A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE TO PRACTICE THE DRY FIRE.

    CLAY

    r.o.c.
    Somerset, WI
    Posts: 41
    #455838

    HERES THE WAY OF DRY FIREING. YOU SHOULD NOT DRY FIRE 1) A RIMFIRE FIREARM, 2)A BREAK ACTION FIREARM SUCH AS A DOUBLE BARRELED SHOTGUN, 3)OR A FIREARM THAT HAS A FIXED FIRING PIN ON THE HAMMER.(MAINLY SEEN IN REVOLVERS)

    REASON BEING FOR #2 IS THAT THE BARREL IS STRONGER THAN THE FIRING PIN, IF THE BARREL ISNT FULLY OPENED OR CLOSED THE PIN CAN STRIKE THE BARREL DENTING, BENDING OR BREAKING THE PIN, LEADING TO A WEAK PRIMER STRIKE OR NO PRIMER STRIKE.

    THE REASON FOR #2 IS THAT SINCE THE FIRING PIN IS PART OF THE HAMMER IF THE FIRING PIN DOESNT STRIKE SOMETHING(PRIMER, SNAP CAP ETC) THE HAMMER STRIKES THE FRAME, DUE TO THE LAW OF INERTA,(RISISTANCE TO CHANGE) THE FIRING PIN WANTS TO KEEP GOING. DO THIS ENOUGH AND YOU END UP WITH A STRESS FRACTURE IN THE FIRE PIN IE NO FIREPIN.

    REASON FOR #1 IS SIMILAR TO #3

    SO WHY CAN I DRY FIRE MODERN DAY PISTOLS RIFLES SHOTGUNS??
    BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FREE FLOATING FIREPIN SYSTEM. MEANING THE FIREPIN IS NOT PART OF THE HAMMER, AND IS CONTAINED BY A SPRING. THIS DOES NOT HURT THE FIRING PIN TO DRY FIRE THEM. I PERSONALLY DRY FIRE MY CARRY GUN APX. 20 TIMES A DAY WHEN I FIRST PUT MY GUN ON. IT HELPS ME WITH MY DRAW, AND MY FRONT SIGHT- TRIGGER SQUEEZE ANY OTHER QUESTION JUST ASK!!!

    YES, RULE #1 ALL GUNS ARE ALLWAYS LOADED. I HAVE A WALL IN MY HOUSE THAT I DRY FIRE TO. THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL….. DIRT!!! FIND YOUR SELF A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE TO PRACTICE THE DRY FIRE.

    CLAY

    krisko
    Durand, WI
    Posts: 1364
    #18102

    I like Clay he has the answers. I read this and didn’t get a chance to post until now. I just want to also say…my Glock needs to be dry fired before it can be disassembled. This is a very common practice. In our recruit training I must have dry fired my Glock and every other gun hundreds of times. Now do you think I would do that if my life depended on it and I was scared something as dumb as a firing pin wouldn’t work? Thanks for posting Clay an Welcome to the site and thanks for being a sponsor.

    krisko
    Durand, WI
    Posts: 1364
    #456056

    I like Clay he has the answers. I read this and didn’t get a chance to post until now. I just want to also say…my Glock needs to be dry fired before it can be disassembled. This is a very common practice. In our recruit training I must have dry fired my Glock and every other gun hundreds of times. Now do you think I would do that if my life depended on it and I was scared something as dumb as a firing pin wouldn’t work? Thanks for posting Clay an Welcome to the site and thanks for being a sponsor.

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