Terminology for firearms and how the media uses it???

I just get fired up every day when I happen to watch the news. More so national news Vs local. Terminology that is used to tweak things enough to control perception or persuade public opinion and yet most people don’t catch this. Its the simple things I catch that makes me scratch my head and think “What idiot typed that into the teleprompter”

So today’s winner is ABC. They show an image of multiple police carrying AR platform rifles in Boulder and announce “police arrive carrying long-guns”

Later in the broadcast discussion when referring to the shooter and an AR platform rifle, they state ” its unknown if he used an assault rifle”

So we are to believe a semi-auto rifle in the hands of a police officer is a long gun, but the same rifle in the hands of a civilian is an assault rifle. Crazy when I think of how many officers I know that spend the absolute minimal amount of range time compared to what I shoot a month. Wonder why people get mixed messages these days…..

You know who’s probably alot more fired up. The family’s and love ones of those who were killed by some physco at a grocery store. As someone who owns multiple fire arms I think its pretty disturbing that alot of people’s concern is with the media terminology of the gun used to kill. Do you honestly think the media calling a gun a long gun instead of assault weapon is gonna influence public opinion more than say a class full of kindergartens getting gunned down. People see these stories feel outraged because that could be their son, daughter, mom or dad. I’ve read your posts before you seem to belive that restrictions of firearms won’t effect criminals ability to get them. So with that logic all drugs should be legal as well as criminals still find access to illegal drugs. I take it you don’t cry like a 16 year old on the internet every time someone gets locked for pot.

The media is the biggest issue of today.
Half truth, twisting stories and purposefully omitting details to sway the public is all they do.
Why people even bother to listen is beyond me.

RJ you have clearly missed the point of the post. You can go back to watching CNN…

I don’t believe people are confused. 7 mass shooting’s in the past seven days. Thoughts and prayers ???

mark-bruzek wrote:

The media is the biggest issue of today.
Half truth, twisting stories and purposefully omitting details to sway the public is all they do.
Why people even bother to listen is beyond me.

RJ you have clearly missed the point of the post. You can go back to watching CNN…

Exactly!!

Don Meier wrote:

I don’t believe people are confused. 7 mass shooting’s in the past seven days. Thoughts and prayers ???

Agreed. People would rather first argue than genuinely feel bad for people who tragically lose their lives. It shows where we are at as a society, regardless of beliefs or where you stand on issues.

Yet again people on both sides of the aisle want to draw lines and divide people at all costs before the blood has even dried whether it be here on a forum, in the media, Washington D.C., and everywhere else imaginable.

The media is only a “big issue” if you let it be in your life. I wish I had the time in my day to get fired up about how some news anchor describes a weapon incorrectly…or much less even turn on the news.

Ranger Johnson wrote:

You know who’s probably alot more fired up. The family’s and love ones of those who were killed by some physco at a grocery store. As someone who owns multiple fire arms I think its pretty disturbing that alot of people’s concern is with the media terminology of the gun used to kill. Do you honestly think the media calling a gun a long gun instead of assault weapon is gonna influence public opinion more than say a class full of kindergartens getting gunned down. People see these stories feel outraged because that could be their son, daughter, mom or dad. I’ve read your posts before you seem to belive that restrictions of firearms won’t effect criminals ability to get them. So with that logic all drugs should be legal as well as criminals still find access to illegal drugs. I take it you don’t cry like a 16 year old on the internet every time someone gets locked for pot.

Wow, someone pizz in your cereal this morning? I didn’t address anything specific to the circumstances with the shooting. Clearly you have a perception that gives you tunnel vision away from the facts. This post has nothing to do with gun regulations, lone wolf shooters, mental health, or tragic events other than how the media manipulates facts

While I do not want to be insensitive to the current situation in Colorado, I truly feel terrible for anybody that is an innocent bystander in these situations. There is no rhyme or reason to when the next one will happen, where it will be, and by whom. However, when the media takes issue with gun ownership in US and uses their voice to sway opinions instead of educate and inform the public on the facts. When it comes to gun control I look to the laws set to govern me where I choose to make my residence. Here are the ones it boils down to. My God said to Love thy neighbor, he also said love protects. Had to think about that one. How will I protect my neighbors in the event there is an active shooter situation? I suppose that’s why my forefathers, who set up the law of the land I choose to live on, decided it was my right to keep and bear arms (among many others).

More troubling to me than just the media is how we went from a country founded on freedoms, to a country that nearly, or perhaps over, 50% of it’s people say you are free to choose whatever you like, but if it is not the same choice as us, we will pass a law to take that option from you.

Sitting here at the hospital waiting on my father. While scanning the web, I caught a network video with a blurb about the WI wolf hunt

“Wisconsin hunters had slaughtered over 200 endangered gray wolves”

Not on the endangered species list.

I’m sure “slaughtered” was carefully chosen for the dramatic visual affect. Considering “dispatched” could have been used for a more mild way of expressing “killed”

Obviously this was to sway public opinion that Wisconsin trappers/hunters are blood hungry unethical, despicable people

More troubling to me than just the media is how we went from a country founded on freedoms, to a country that nearly, or perhaps over, 50% of it’s people say you are free to choose whatever you like, but if it is not the same choice as us, we will pass a law to take that option from you.

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Well said, very true and very scary.

And to RJ’s comment you missed Randy’s point. And if you think for a minute that criminals get there guns the same place you or I would you sir are dead wrong!

The media loves to make the AR a big bad scary black rifle that belongs on the battle field. Referring to it as an Assault Rifle is actually inaccurate. It was originally called Armalite Rifle. The most accurate terminology nowadays is Modern Sporting Rifle.

Randy Wieland wrote:

Sitting here at the hospital waiting on my father. While scanning the web, I caught a network video with a blurb about the WI wolf hunt

Was this news story related to the Tribal Officials hoping the new Secretary of the Interior will restore protections?

HRG

Randy Wieland wrote:

Obviously this was to sway public opinion that Wisconsin trappers/hunters are blood hungry unethical, despicable people

Why do the tribes consider the wolf to be sacred? Isn’t everything sacred? How about thousands of pounds of spawning walleyes? I think that should fall in the category of sacred too.

On the wolf hunt, I do think it was rushed a bit. The Wisconsin DNR was planning a season this upcoming fall and the one that was held in February seemed to be put together rather hastily.

I am in the crowd that thinks they need to be controlled properly and a lottery drawn, quota based hunt that is science-based is perfectly fine.

Ranger Johnson wrote:

you seem to believe that restrictions of firearms won’t effect criminals ability to get them.

Correct, it won’t.
DT

And if you think for a minute that criminals get there guns the same place you or I would you sir are dead wrong!

Recent Atlanta shooter bought his from Big Woods Goods in Holly Springs. It’s true I’ve never bought one there.

gimruis wrote:

On the wolf hunt, I do think it was rushed a bit. The Wisconsin DNR was planning a season this upcoming fall and the one that was held in February seemed to be put together rather hastily.

It was. I don’t recall the organization that led the charge, but there was a court order for the Dnr to hold a season within that management year. It was thrown together based on the (in my opinion) grossly low estimates of the states packs. To cap quota in 3 days just proves the packs are much larger than estimated

Turn off the media. Cut the cord (TV/Cable) in 2011 haven’t looked back. For fun I sometimes do the simple math on how much I’ve saved without that bill over the years.

How do I learn about events. They get posted in places like this. Or I’ll flip through a few newspapers at the library just to read headlines. Usually just keep flipping. I’m now aware that something happened from this post on this topic.

Could research it on the internet more, but it’s a sad story, would rather find something positive to read on the internet as long as I’ve got the time to log-on.

Based on the time tracker on my phone my Facebook time has gone down severely compared to 2015. Don’t feel like I’m missing anything. Twitter, don’t have it book marked and typically don’t think to log-in anymore.

Less media, consumption, and passively ‘being fed’. More living

Reef W wrote:

And if you think for a minute that criminals get there guns the same place you or I would you sir are dead wrong!

Recent Atlanta shooter bought his from Big Woods Goods in Holly Springs. It’s true I’ve never bought one there.

Ok I understand that it is possible someone bought a gun and then had something happen in there life that caused them to make a crazy decision that most rational people would never consider. Your right we should ban all guns so we are all safe or at least the scary black ones. Come on man!

I feel like everyone should stay informed and up to date on the activities going on around them in the country and world. Far to many people think if they just ignore it and bury their head in the sand that it will go away. The problem these days it that most media presents the Info. with a Bias and hides lies under the whole ” Unnamed Source BS ” Its almost impossible to get a clear, Fair, unbiased story these days.
As far as the original post I agree that its a joke how how the media treats Guns in their coverage.

John Rasmussen wrote:

Your right we should ban all guns so we are all safe or at least the scary black ones. Come on man!

Not sure where I said that… Arguments based on false information aren’t very effective though. An FBI study of mass shootings found that “Most commonly (40%, n = 25), the active shooter purchased a firearm or firearms legally and specifically for the purpose of perpetrating the attack.” More importantly “A very small percentage purchased firearms illegally (2%, n = 1) or stole the firearm (6%, n = 4).”

I did not realize the numbers were that high Reef sorry if it felt like an attack on you. I just get fired up when the idea of the gun control laws keeping more people safe. While I’m sure as you have shown that it happens I still feel like it is not the answer.

It’s very unfortunate the media does not give us the news. They give us there agenda. Randy stating that fact cannot be overlooked.

Address the behavior, not the tool. That guy could have used a knife or an automobile to do the same thing.

Ranger Johnson wrote:

You know who’s probably alot more fired up. The family’s and love ones of those who were killed by some physco at a grocery store. As someone who owns multiple fire arms I think its pretty disturbing that alot of people’s concern is with the media terminology of the gun used to kill. Do you honestly think the media calling a gun a long gun instead of assault weapon is gonna influence public opinion more than say a class full of kindergartens getting gunned down. People see these stories feel outraged because that could be their son, daughter, mom or dad. I’ve read your posts before you seem to belive that restrictions of firearms won’t effect criminals ability to get them. So with that logic all drugs should be legal as well as criminals still find access to illegal drugs. I take it you don’t cry like a 16 year old on the internet every time someone gets locked for pot.

Do you need to insult people you don’t agree with?

I don’t watch the news. I wish more people were like me, but there’s far too many sheep in the world that will mindlessly follow everything the media tells them.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>John Rasmussen wrote:</div>
Your right we should ban all guns so we are all safe or at least the scary black ones. Come on man!

Not sure where I said that… Arguments based on false information aren’t very effective though. An FBI study of mass shootings found that “Most commonly (40%, n = 25), the active shooter purchased a firearm or firearms legally and specifically for the purpose of perpetrating the attack.” More importantly “A very small percentage purchased firearms illegally (2%, n = 1) or stole the firearm (6%, n = 4).”

Do you have a source for that? That’s only 48%. There’s a big number or 2 out there that’s not accounted for.
Obviously this is sad but tightening gun regs definately isnt the answer.

rjthehunter wrote:

Do you have a source for that? That’s only 48%. There’s a big number or 2 out there that’s not accounted for.
Obviously this is sad but tightening gun regs definately isnt the answer.

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Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rjthehunter wrote:</div>
Do you have a source for that? That’s only 48%. There’s a big number or 2 out there that’s not accounted for.
Obviously this is sad but tightening gun regs definately isnt the answer.

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So right off the bat, why is this based on 63 shootings?

46% of the guns were obtained in likely an illegal way. Had they not been able to buy a gun I’d bet they would steal one like the others did.

Gun control isn’t the answer, criminals will still get guns.

rjthehunter wrote:

So right off the bat, why is this based on 63 shootings?

46% of the guns were obtained in likely an illegal way. Had they not been able to buy a gun I’d bet they would steal one like the others did.

Gun control isn’t the answer, criminals will still get guns.

Well, your bet is all the data I need!

rjthehunter wrote:

Had they not been able to buy a gun I’d bet they would steal one like the others did.

suzuki wrote:

Address the behavior, not the tool. That guy could have used a knife or an automobile to do the same thing.

Here’s a question… why would someone steal a gun when they could just use a knife or an automobile? Are guns more effective or something?

Yes…one of these threads!