Table Scraps and Dogs

  • mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595789

    Warning, don’t do it. It may cost you $$$.

    One of our poms is at the vet for 3 days being treated for pancreatitis. Google it if you want more info.

    basically this happens a lot around the holidays. Dogs can’t take the influx of fatty table scraps and their pancreas gets inflamed.

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1595794

    Hope your pooch comes out OK!

    Yessiry! My vet has told me that many times and also no bones! Our vet not only has many dogs in for pancreatitis but she can’t even estimate the number of dogs with bones stuck in the intestines….ouch! Very expensive. My pooch gets a few nibbles of scraps, very few, but thats it and “0” bones.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595803

    I’m a horrible offender. I can’t help myself. We have plenty of good, healthy treats. I suspect this will be more of a problem for me than them.

    She’ll be fine. You just want to treat it because it leads to things like diabetes. The pancreas doesn’t shut down, it just gets inflamed and she never really showed severe symptoms. She was just a little depressed and was sensitive to touch. There was no vomiting and she was still eating well.

    Actually the glass is half full. They did xrays and the stuff showing up in that area could have been a mass. But the blood work came back with pancreatitis. And pancreatitis is very treatable and non invasive. Cancer, not so much.

    icenutz
    Aniwa, WI
    Posts: 2534
    #1595810

    Pug,

    Good to hear it wasn’t serious, I have seen to many dogs that had bones, paper towels, etc. lodged and have to have surgery.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13473
    #1595812

    Pug, glad the pooch will be ok!

    I’m hard core on NO table scraps. My wife will add a little bacon grease to their food once in a while. Hate it. Now, when the wonderful aroma of bacon fill the house, we have a Brit and a Lab glued to the stove and in the way. They both loose their freak’n minds and you can’t walk through the kitchen without having two dogs knocking you over

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1595814

    I’m a hardcore no table scraps guy, too. Aside from health concerns, I can’t stand having a dog bug me while I am eating.

    mnrabbit
    South Central Minnesota
    Posts: 815
    #1595821

    I too am a big no table scraps guy. I watch and monitor very closely what and how much food my Lab eats. From time to time I will give him some hamburger meat or some peanut butter, but that is about it for human food.

    Some of my decision has to do with what Randy and Ralph said. Obviously a dog will always know what is and isn’t food, whether it’s dog or human food. But if you never give them a piece of human food, then that can somewhat eliminate a dog that never leaves you alone while you eat or goes counter surfing when you’re not looking. They’ll never know what they’re missing out on!

    And bones that have been cooked are a huge no-no! Very dangerous!

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5455
    #1595827

    I’m a hardcore no table scraps guy, too. Aside from health concerns, I can’t stand having a dog bug me while I am eating.

    Yep. My boys are trained to lay down either under the table or in their dog beds while we eat.

    I’m glad she’ll be okay, Pug. That’s no fun when pets have to be at the vet. When I was a kid our neighbor had a huge fluff of a dog named Penny. She loved hotdogs. And we loved feeding them to her. Luckily she didn’t have any complications from them. We all know what hotdogs are made of! rotflol

    Pete S
    Posts: 277
    #1595828

    Our current British lab and our last chocolate lab went CRAZY over bananas. They could be upstairs and as soon as you crack the top of the banana they are at your feet. Vet says fruits and veggies are ok, anyone hear different? I often take a banana for a snack during hunting breaks.

    No table scraps except for the popcorn that falls out of our kids mouth

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595838

    I believe fruits and veggies are OK as long as you research the ones that are bad for them. It’s the fatty treats (meat) that are bad. Of course our scaps are usually pieces of fat the ladies won’t eat.

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5455
    #1595840

    Carrots are good. I feel like I’ve heard grapes are bad. My Grandpa Arnold used to go on daily walks with his dog Bandit. After their walk they shared an apple or two together. )

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1595844

    I’ve always heard grapes and onions are bad, but carrots and beans are definitely good for dogs. Most doges will appreciate the crunch they get from carrots too :).

    Pete S
    Posts: 277
    #1595845

    Our British will eat the beans right out of the garden, she’s a big help when your picking them and you look over and half the bowl has been chewed on

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1595852

    My dogs tell me to quit buying dog food and just set a place at the table for them. We are on the other side of the spectrum and our dogs eat pretty much what we eat. And like our own diets, we think it is a matter of moderation and serving sizes.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1595858

    Table scraps go into by dog’s bowl. At the plus side of 150 pounds, he seems to handle the extra fat fine.

    p.s 150 lbs is on the light side for a male Rotweiller.

    -J.

    Timmy
    Posts: 1235
    #1595861

    We give carrots as treats to the dogs…….they seem to love them. Other than that – the lab eats anything she can get her mouth around, and I have seen no ill effects yet. YET. After butchering a deer – I toss the carcass out and within a week or two, there are only some leg bones left that take a week to gnarl down. All three dogs eat off that carcass – and only the shitzhu mutt gets a little runny from it. The others love it. These are raw bone, though….not cooked.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595867

    From what i read its more a change of eating more fatty foods. They say cases always increase after the holidays. I’m not willing to take a chance anymore.

    Lets face it, a dog is just as happy with a small manufactured treat. When one stop feeding them scraps and they stop expecting it, they’ll soon forget.

    Now if you always feed them scraps and the same amount you may be fine. But this post was fair warning.

    No I am not nannying and finger wagging at anyone. That was me too, I have no self control with the dogs. That’s another problem…they know that too. For example. the sick one will stand on her haunches and point to her belly knowing every time I see that I’ll rub her belly.

    Chuck Melcher
    SE Wisconsin, Racine County
    Posts: 1966
    #1595868

    I was on the Mississippi last fall, having burger at the bar/motel. Owner just finished cooking a pizza (frozen), and I told the owner it smelled good but I was alone. She said the guy that ordered it, did so for his dog. No kidding, the guy let it cool, then walked it outside for his dog.

    Idiot is all that came to mind.

    No table stuff for ours… Carrots, yup, she gets part of one when we cut it up for salads. She will run around the house all proud and happy before slowly chewing it up.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595872

    Found this list:
    Yes:
    Apples - without seeds or core (apple seeds contain chemical compounds that are poisonous to animals)
    Blueberries
    Strawberries
    Watermelon - without seeds
    Cantaloupe
    Frozen bananas
    Green beans
    Carrots - raw or cooked
    Sweet potato – cooked, cubed or mashed without butter or seasoning; regular potatoes are also good, but in limited amounts since they are high in sugar and can increase weight
    Squash, zucchini
    Lettuce
    Spinach
    Popcorn - unsalted and unbuttered
    Catnip or cat grass

    No:
    Grapes and raisins - contain chemical compounds that are toxic to dogs
    Garlic and onions – both have chemical properties that can be toxic, and even life threatening to dogs and cats
    Tomatoes
    Avocado
    Mushrooms – particularly wild mushrooms
    Fruits with pits, such as peaches, cherries, and plums – in some cases the pit can be toxic, or can simply present a choking hazard
    Nuts – particularly macadamia nuts, which are toxic to pets

    I’m a little confused about the nute. I know peanuts/peanut butter is fine (please, no jokes :)). And I always thought popcorn was bad because of the hulls?

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1595882

    One summer our German Shorthair was having quite a bit of diarrhea and we were about to take her to the vet when I looked out the window and she was in our cherry tree eating cherries. She actually chewed them and would spit out the pits, no lie.

    mnrabbit
    South Central Minnesota
    Posts: 815
    #1595897

    I’ll save the details, but when I was a young kid we had a dog die after finding a bag of candy the next day after our towns annual trick-r-treat that somebody left sitting outside.

    gonecribbin
    reads landing MN
    Posts: 517
    #1595916

    my 11 yr old lab + table scraps = Room Clearing Silent Killers

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1595952

    Table scraps go into by dog’s bowl. At the plus side of 150 pounds, he seems to handle the extra fat fine.

    Floyd was infamous for eating entire sticks of butter with no side effects. Not a daily diet, but he did it enough to be known for it.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595954

    Tuffy used to have real bad flatulence. I’m not sure what has changed, but its very rare now from where it was a regular occurrence multiple times a day.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1595960

    Someone explain why the dog will eat prime rib, go outside and chase it with a cat turd!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1595983

    I have been trying to figure that one out myself. Give Tuffy a delicious treat and the first thing he wants to do is run outside and eat a turd.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1596021

    I Googled it once and didn’t buy the explanation at all.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3780
    #1596030

    SuperDave and Pug, you bring up something that a lot of the population can’t believe and only dog owners understand. A buddy from work and I both have cats at home (cats-in-law, they’re the wives’) and we always joke about how you can’t really fight the cat turd trend, it’s going to happen no matter what you try.

    I thought about trying to come up with a way to sell expensive cat food. The selling point would be that the cat food is very nutritious and some of the nutrition comes out in the litter box, and since you know your dogs are going to eat cat turds anyway, you might as well make sure they’re getting something out of it. Essentially you’re selling high-priced cat food and the consumer is paying extra because their cat AND dog will get something out of it.

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1596033

    Bigger warning—- SUGAR FREE GUM, will kill your dog on most occasions. As little as 1 piece is deadly. Google Xylitol and its effects on dogs but not cats for some reason. My dog ate a half a pack and got lucky. No gum allowed in my house now…

    I literally read a news story about it while out of town and when I arrived home I went to “remove” the gum in my house only to see the package tore up on my stairs… my dog never gets into anything what are the odds. She lived and now I know.

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    #1596041

    all of the above is true even if it is contradictory.

    like jon, i’ve always fed table scraps, but never got into pancreatitis. i believe it is the CHANGE in diet that causes problems.

    around here we are on an ‘organic’ diet of raw meat with no veggies. zip, zero, nada carbs. All 40 dogs are in great shape. So they are on a protein/fat diet and the bloods look great. The nutritional vets use me for a study site.

    on bones, i feed them all, baked, grilled, roasted, fried and have never had any problems (fingers crossed)

    now, on the cacophagia (poop eating) the most reasonable explanation i’ve heard is that dogs are nomadic predators and need to adjust the stomach culture to the available diet. made sense to me. little farty when we shift from calves to venison, but otherwise pretty stable.

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