SUV's – which engines to stay away from?

  • Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1517919

    Daughters’ grand prix is barely limping by and we need to pick something up soon. I’m seeing a lot of Fords with the 4.0 on the market, the Outlanders, and a few trailblazers. Just wanting something to get by for a couple years so that she can throw the canoe on top or trailer her little jon boat for duck hunting. Any cautions of which to run away from??? I know the GM 3100 engines are about guaranteed to blow gaskets…any others to worry about?

    BTW – if anyone has something older and still solid they want to sell, shoot me a PM

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1517960

    4.0 ohv(overhead valve)Fords are good motors.the 4.0 sohc(overheadcam)Ford has more power but also more repair issues.The 4.0ohv is a pretty bulletproof motor.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3804
    #1517977

    The GM 4.2 that is in the T-Blazer/ Bravada is a good engine. Tie rod ends are a pretty common issue but not a lot $$.

    Tom Anderson
    Kasson, MN
    Posts: 138
    #1518064

    The trailblazers and envoys don’t get the best mileage but they are very reliable. I work on a few of them with over 250,000 miles with no major repairs.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1518077

    The Jeep 4.0 is a reliable motor. One common issue is the rear main seal.

    FDR

    castle-rock-clown
    Posts: 2596
    #1518101

    Girlfriend has a 94 Toyota Rav4 that thing runs and runs on only maintenance and wear parts. I would like her to get newer, but she won’t give up that thing.

    Francis K
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 828
    #1518112

    My daughter is driving our old 1998 Explorer that we have owned since 2000. It has the 4.0 SOHC within the neighborhood of 185,000 miles. The only engine related problem we have had to address is the fuel pump. The dang thing just keeps going and always starts in the cold.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1518156

    My daughter is driving our old 1998 Explorer that we have owned since 2000.

    The fact that your daughter is driving makes me realize that I’m getting old! Dang!

    gixxer01
    Avon, MN
    Posts: 639
    #1518164

    The Jeep 4.7L will almost always have a broken exhaust manifold stud in the rear of the engine.

    210,000 and only a waterpump, front crankshaft seal, and new bearings in rear end. All of which came after 200,000.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11644
    #1518245

    The GM 4.2 that is in the T-Blazer/ Bravada is a good engine. Tie rod ends are a pretty common issue but not a lot $$.

    Totally agree. Had a 4.2 2002 Bravada and it went 190,000 and the engine was still purring along. Ran it on Mobil 1 its entire life and even at 190k, the oil consumption was less than a quart between changes.

    I’d still be driving that Bravada if the tranny hadn’t died.

    Which brings me to an observation. It could be just me, but it seems to me that chronic tranny failure seems to be more common these days than chronic engine failure.

    Anyone else noticed this?

    Grouse

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #1518296

    Stay away from the 5.4L Fords. Found in the explorers and expeditions. Dealing with one myself right now and its costly.

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1518304

    We have a 97 explorer with the 4.0sohc engine. No problems and we are in the 150,000 mile range. If I was looking at something for a a kid to drive, something with that engine would be on the list.

    gixxer01
    Avon, MN
    Posts: 639
    #1518376

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mxskeeter wrote:</div>
    The GM 4.2 that is in the T-Blazer/ Bravada is a good engine. Tie rod ends are a pretty common issue but not a lot $$.

    Totally agree. Had a 4.2 2002 Bravada and it went 190,000 and the engine was still purring along. Ran it on Mobil 1 its entire life and even at 190k, the oil consumption was less than a quart between changes.

    I’d still be driving that Bravada if the tranny hadn’t died.

    Which brings me to an observation. It could be just me, but it seems to me that chronic tranny failure seems to be more common these days than chronic engine failure.

    Anyone else noticed this?

    Grouse

    It seems with the invention of sealed transmissions, failure rate has gone up substantially. Not to mention models that produce both V6 and V8 versions. Take for instance the Explorer V8s that came equipped with the sealed transmissions. Designed for the V6 and run in a vehicle with a V8 tow package. No wonder they were shredding transmissions.

    It would appear that alot of manufacturers are producing transmissions as replaceable modules, rather than maintainable and rebuildable. Easy way for them to promote a lower cost of ownership.

    My Jeep GC’s driveline, with the exception of the rear end bearings (my lack of maintenance) has been fantastic. Of course it has a factory tranny cooler and is maintainable. Even after towing the Skeeter for the last couple years, the front diff, transfer case, and tranny fluids are spotless. None were changed until 200,000 miles.

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1519260

    Stay away from the 5.4L Fords. Found in the explorers and expeditions. Dealing with one myself right now and its costly.

    I’m still driving my 07 F150 Lariat w/85K on it and has the 5.4L…..knock on wood but no problems…I realize that’s maybe not a lot of miles but I’d get another if I felt the need to…..

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    #1520173

    We’re starting to look at a New SUV. Not sure what to go with. Jeep, Toyota, GMC. I’ve always had good luck with Toyota and GMC vehicles.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1520182

    if i could afford a 4runner that would be my choice for an SUV hands down

    chamberschamps
    Mazomanie, WI
    Posts: 1089
    #1520220

    The Jeep 4.0 is a reliable motor. One common issue is the rear main seal.

    FDR

    A decent condition jeep with a 4.0 is getting hard to find.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1520333

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>francisco4 wrote:</div>
    The Jeep 4.0 is a reliable motor. One common issue is the rear main seal.

    FDR

    A decent condition jeep with a 4.0 is getting hard to find.

    Parents 2001 GC has 236,000 miles. It is still their daily driver. They just took it from the Twin Cities to Chicago to Holmen, WI and back to the Cities last week.

    FDR

    hamms
    Mn
    Posts: 493
    #1520340

    04 Saturn vue has Honda 3.5 and 5 speed auto same found in the ridgeline and pilot. Very good setup for us! Bought it in 07 and have had no issues other then regular oil changes and tires. We get about 25 on the freeway and 19 in town. Btw its awd great system. I will say the ford 4.0 is a fuel hog big time.

    milemark_714
    Posts: 1287
    #1520452

    if i could afford a 4runner that would be my choice for an SUV hands down

    That’s what I would go with,but they want a pretty penny for those,same with the Tacoma.

    How much are you looking to spend?There’s a lot of older Blazers/Jimmys that you can get reasonable.Just find one with minimal rust.Parts are common and cheap.Same with early T-blazers/Envoys.Look on CL,you will find many.

    I think the sealed case transmissions are a joke,no real way to check fluid level.I have heard of them being under-filled from the factory.My 2011 Tacoma still has a dipstick and drain plug on the pan.The GF’s 2001 Pontiac Sunfire has a sealed trans.

    Seems like a lot of SUVs are a crap shoot as far as reliability goes,none really had bad motors,it is the transmission that has problems.Ford Explorers were really bad in the early days.Honda also had problems with auto transmissions,mostly with V6 models.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1520489

    Olivia has about 2500 to spend. Been seeing anything that is in half way decent shape goes fast. Had 4 that we were going to look at and all sold before we could get there.

    iowa_josh
    Posts: 429
    #1520657

    I see some old blazers that look nice and the price is low. Buyers market there.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3804
    #1520719

    The older s10 blazers have poor front suspension/steering parts. Ball joints, idler arms, tie rods, etc.

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