Super Quiet

I posted a thread about year or so ago about my Grandpa’s old Winchester.22 pump and where to find ammo. I’ve had no problem buying shells at L&M in Park Rapids.

I got some powderless shells and love them, talk about being stealth! It’s as quiet as a pellet rifle. Perfect for dispatching garden loving varmints. I’m a novice as far as guns so this is probably old hat to most of you but I’m pretty excited about it.

As far as the rifle goes I couldn’t be happier. It’s extremely accurate and a treat to shoot.

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That’s awesome! Guns with history are cool.

Just be careful–sometimes those powder-less shells don’t have enough oomph to get the projectile out of the barrel of a rifle. I’ve had to knock more than one out of a barrel with a cleaning rod.

I agree, though, they are super stealth. They’re a little louder out of a pistol.

Thanks for the heads up Ralph, that’s good to know.

You could mount that on a cedar strip canoe and sneak up on anything!!!

DaveB wrote:

You could mount that on a cedar strip canoe and sneak up on anything!!!

no doubt Dave! My daughter and her fiance had a great time with it in the Boundary waters.
I’m taking a little trip on the Crow Wing with it next month.

Those are great little guns. I happen to have a handful of Winchester .22’s. My favorite is my 62, but the 61’s are awesome little guns that can provide hours of enjoyment. I will second what Ralph says, specially if the barrel is in rough shape.

Do you happen to know the date of MFG? If not, send me a message with the first two digits of the serial and how many numbers total in the serial.

I agree, I love the little .22 pump actions that were popular back in that era.

I have a Remington Model 12 that was my great grandfather’s. Just a super little rifle. In fact, I’ve been thinking about buying another to restore, I want to leave the family gun as original, but it would be fun to have another.

Almost an endangered species now, the pump action rifle. I cannot recall the last time I heard of anyone buying one new.

Grouse

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

I agree, I love the little .22 pump actions that were popular back in that era.

I have a Remington Model 12 that was my great grandfather’s. Just a super little rifle. In fact, I’ve been thinking about buying another to restore, I want to leave the family gun as original, but it would be fun to have another.

Almost an endangered species now, the pump action rifle. I cannot recall the last time I heard of anyone buying one new.

Grouse

I never gave it much thought but you’re right, they’re just not around anymore.

I have many family heirlooms but this old rifle is one of my favorites. It’s been great for teaching my girls to shoot.

Well by golly, I too have one that I inherited from my grandpa many years ago. Pretty much forgot about it until I came across it moving this past weekend. Now I know right where it is. Don’t remember the make or model but it is vintage. When I get home tonight I’ll go fetch it and hopefully post some pics.

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

Well by golly, I too have one that I inherited from my grandpa many years ago. Pretty much forgot about it until I came across it moving this past weekend. Now I know right where it is. Don’t remember the make or model but it is vintage. When I get home tonight I’ll go fetch it and hopefully post some pics.

Well I’m not sure if this has been done before…but I’m posting off my own quote.
Anyway, here it is;
J. STEVENS ARMS & TOOL CO. CHICOPEE FALLS, MASS.
MODEL 70, PATENT APRIL 30, 1907?

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What brand and what are these powderless shells called? Always looking for a quieter round in my war against the grackles.

I’ve used Aguila Super Colibri.

what model is that? I have one very similar that I have not shot yet and would like to give it a go….. I wasn’t sure what round it took.

CCI makes a .22bb cap and .22 cb cap, both a .22 short cartridge fueled with priming only. Both are very quiet but the cb cap has a hair more snort. I keep a box of the cb’s handy and use them on possum and coon sized critters.

These can be shot out of any .22 gun but may need to be fed by hand if the weapon is a pump, lever or autoloader, and NOT chambered for shorts.

The cb has a bullet-like projectile while the bb cap has a small round ball projectile. Inside 20 yards they are fairly accurate. Outside of that range, well….

Tom Sawvell wrote:

These can be shot out of any .22 gun but may need to be fed by hand if the weapon is a pump, lever or autoloader, and NOT chambered for shorts.

Yep, Same thing I started out with those a long time ago…the shorts. CCI low velocity. Discovered you could use the 22LR and then feed them up through the pump action. Way cool and nostalgic. Wondered what my grandpa in the early 1900’s was shooting at at back then?

Ralph Wiggum wrote:

I’ve used Aguila Super Colibri.

Those look interesting from what I’ve found out about them on the web.

Tom, I’ve been using the CB caps and they are pretty anemic. Unless I hit a grackle in the head, or perhaps a perfect heart/lung shot they tend to just wound them at 25 yards or so. Really weak on rabbits.

Over the years I have laid a few coon and a couple possum to rest with the cb caps. I keep all my shots inside the yard so 25 feet is more like what these critters are popped at. I could make a 25 yard shot but I’d be mighty close to leaving the yard with the shot so I keep them intentionally close. My Sheridan .20 reaches out well beyond 25 yards accurately and I’ll plink crows and black birds in trees with it when they’re in the neighbor’s trees.

Mexican Eagle what can you tell me about this little gem?
22 special
No model # but has 22 WRF on top of barrel by the breach.
On the stock mount behind the trigger guard 6 digit # starting in 203.
Octagonal barrel.

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IceAsylum wrote:

Mexican Eagle what can you tell me about this little gem?
22 special
No model # but has 22 WRF on top of barrel by the breach.
On the stock mount behind the trigger guard 6 digit # starting in 203.
Octagonal barrel.

Ok, this one is quite cool…octagonal barrel? Like the pic looking down the “business end”!
Ok though, it’s not Mexican eagle…it’s Merican eagle, don’t want to insult the guy.
Moving on, any more input here…eagle?, belletaine? No disrespect Tom, but I find more interest in these vintage .22 pump actions than what you can hit between a crow or grackle or rabbit.

I don’t know about the gun itself but the 22WRF stands for .22 Winchester Rimfire and it’s the earlier version of the .22mag. It’s not the same as .22WMR so make sure you purchase the right stuff.

stillakid2 wrote:

I don’t know about the gun itself but the 22WRF stands for .22 Winchester Rimfire and it’s the earlier version of the .22mag. It’s not the same as .22WMR so make sure you purchase the right stuff.

Ok thanks…but what some of us (myself I suppose) is not picking through ammo choices yet, just thinking about who and how many of us have these vintage treasures? Any more coming out of the closet?

I bought a nice little model 12 Winchester 20 gauge “Skeet Special” with a take-down case lined with sheepskin/wool and the original box of shells with two missing. I bought the gun in 1972 from an old farmer friend. He received as a gift years before and shot it twice.

It has a 22″ ribbed barrel. The rib, a factory original, is 5/8″ wide and is double beaded. Nice walnut wood on it too.

The original shells I have kept intact, but I have taken the gun grousing a few times and its a sweet shooter.

Some of these vintage firearms are just a treasure to handle. That .22 WRF is one the mother-in-law had in a closet along with a couple hundred rounds of ammo. When she died one of the grandkids got the rifle but left all the ammo and said he didn’t want it so I grabbed it and a gunshot owner rewarded me nicely for it.

Tom, that sounds like a really nice Model 12! Makes you wonder what’s out there in those old closets.

Old closets…..that’s where this one is, sorta. I have it stored in a safe actually. I don’t shoot it anymore and take it out about once a year to wipe it down and caress it, then back it goes. The wood and checkering are primo. Its about a six pound weapon and handles like a dream but its worth too much to play with it in the field any more.

Just to join in, here’s my old beauty…… I picked up a Winchester model 61 in .22 several years back. It has been re-blued and refinished

Tom, Timmy, and any others…maybe post some pics? Seeing is the only way to share the love.

I have a few old .22’s… here is a couple pics. Mine hang on the wall…the little one (my hand pictured to show the size) is the first gun my Dad bought as a kid, when he worked at his Grandpas Hardware store in Watkins, MN. The other was my Grandpa’s squirrel plinker. That one has the octagon barrel and is a pump.

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Dad’s .22

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The next time I have the 20 out I’ll snap a couple shots of it.