Sufix Siege line?

  • SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1721269

    Anyone have experience with this line? I bought a spool at Cabelas this weekend for use on my trout reels. It seems a little stiff but says it has superior abrasion resistance and near zero line memory. I was just wondering if any of you have used it before I spool up.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1721273

    Sufix mono IMO is probably the most supple line out there. Always goes on the reel really nice and memory is really low.

    With that said it’s a freakin rubber band. Sooo strechty and the sensitivity is lacking. I used it for leaders when I use to run braid and worked awesome for that application. Can’t get away from my Sensation, nothing comes close.

    patk
    Nisswa, MN
    Posts: 1997
    #1721274

    For me Trilene XT and Suffix Siege are interchangeable. They are my “go to” for mono. Caveat, I’m much more interested in abrasion resistance than being supple. Most of my uses are 8# and higher though, for lighter I’m not sure but might change.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1721275

    I use suffix elite and its the only monofilemant line I use. Super strong.
    The line lives up to what they claim and more. I have not used siege so I really cant say what the differece are. I startes of with 8lb then bounced down to 6lb because the strength is that good. Ifish walleye but I fish water that holds many species of fish from walleye, lake sturgeon, catfish and bass. Suffix handels them all with no problems.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1721301

    Well, it looks good on the reel! That’s important. LOL!

    realtreeap10
    Over there
    Posts: 247
    #1721315

    I like the Seige for river fishing, it seems to hold up better than other lines I’ve used and has saved me from loosing a lot of lures and jigs. It does have some stretch to it but it’s by far my favorite river line.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1721337

    Response from Sufix:

    Dave,

    · Thanks for the email and the inquiry. T
    Happy to help!
    · The main difference is in the abrasion resistance.
    · Happy fishing!
    Rapala USA

    Sufix Elite
    • Superior tensile and knot strength due to Micro Resin Technology
    • Easy Handling
    • All around exceptional performance
    • G² Precision Winding™ (4-20 lb; excludes 3000 yd. spools) virtually eliminates line memory

    Sufix Siege:
    ·Superior casting distance with pinpoint accuracy due to its Proprietary Extrusion Process
    ·Up to 15X greater abrasion resistance
    ·Exceptional knot strength and smooth handling
    ·Smooth, supple, handles beautifully – yet it is exceptionally strong
    ·G² Precision Winding™ (4-20 lb; excludes 3000 yd. spools) virtually eliminates line memory, even on spinning reels

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1721357

    Between the 2, does anyone know which one has less stretch in 8lb?

    FDR

    collin meier
    Posts: 15
    #1721405

    the only thing i have found with the suffix siege is that the line sinks in the water. i had it spooled up on my slip bobber set up and it makes it hard to get a decent hook set. other then that it seams like great line!

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1721508

    Siege and elite are both good lines.Cant say for certain but Id guess the siege has less stretch.I spool all open water reels with siege and all ice reels with elite.To me the elite has a softer feel to it.I spool spinning reels rite out of the box,set the box in between something to put a little tension on it.When you remove the spool from the box make sure to put it back in with the label facing the same direction as it came out or it can and will twist up very bad.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1721607

    Between the 2, does anyone know which one has less stretch in 8lb?

    FDR

    Short answer is that Sufix Seige is one of the lower stretch “non braid” fishing lines you can buy. It compares very closely with Trilene XT as a highly abrasion resistant monofilament.

    Likewise Trilene XL is designed to be Berkley’s most manageable monofilament and Sufix’s version of that is Elite. Although I didn’t test Elite in the annual stretch test I did test Trilene XL and I would estimate similar results to Elite. Overall, a lower stretch line when dry but as it soaks up water will stretch as much as many fluorocarbon lines (which contrary to conventional wisdom is a lot).

    So here’s the “Long Version” if you want the entire report with several brands and different line categories:

    2016 LINE STRETCH TEST

    I used a 12 foot piece of each line and hung an 8 pound weight to see how much each line stretched in inches. All lines were 8 lb test. Below are the results – least stretch to most stretch.

    All Lines Tested
    Trilene XT (Mono) 21-1/4 inches of stretch
    Yo-Zuri Hybrid (Co-polymer) 22-1/8
    Sufix Seige (Mono) 22-5/8
    P-Line CX Premium (Co-polymer) 23-1/2
    Maxima Treazure (Co-polymer) 24-1/2
    Trilene XL (Mono) 24-3/4
    Tectan Superior (Mono) 25-7/8
    Berkley Sensation (Mono) 26-1/8
    Sunline Sniper (Fluorocarbon) 26-1/2
    Gamma Touch (Fluorocarbon) 29-1/4
    Original Blue Stren (Mono) 29-3/4
    Gamma Edge (Fluorocarbon) 31-0**
    Bass Pro XPS (Fluorocarbon) 31-3/4*
    Stren 100% (Fluorocast) 31-3/4*
    Seaguar Tatsu (Fluorocarbon) 32-3/4
    P-Line 100% (Fluorocarbon) 33-0*
    Seaguar Invizx (Fluorocarbon) 36-0**
    Berkley 100% (Fluorocarbon) 38-3/8

    Line snapped once and was re-tested
    ** Line snapped twice – length estimated

    Broken Down By Line Type
    3 Co-polymer lines average stretch: 23.4 inches
    6 Monofilament lines average stretch: 25.1 inches
    9 fluorocarbon lines average stretch: 32.2 inches

    Line Diameter
    Line diameter can have an effect on stretch, but 9 of these lines all had the same diameter (.009 inches). Those lines are broken out below. The overall results are similar for the 3 different line types.

    P-Line CX Premium (Co-polymer) 23-1/2
    Maxima Treazure (Co-polymer) 24-1/2
    Tectan Superior (Mono) 25-7/8
    Berkley Sensation (Mono) 26-1/8
    Sunline Sniper (Fluorocarbon) 26-1/2
    Gamma Touch (Fluorocarbon) 29-1/4
    Bass Pro XPS (Fluorocarbon) 31-3/4*
    Seaguar Tatsu (Fluorocarbon) 32-3/4
    Seaguar Invizx (Fluorocarbon) 36-0**

    ”Wet vs. Dry”
    The above line stretch test was conducted with dry lines, which raises the question of whether mono, co-polymer and fluorocarbon lines stretch differently when wet? Two lines in each category were soaked for 24 hours and re-tested. Results were as follows:

    Fluorocarbon lines
    Sunline Sniper: dry 26 1/2 inches vs. wet at 27 1/8.
    Berkley 100% fluorocarbon: dry 38 3/8 inches vs. wet at 39 inches.

    Co-Polymer lines
    Yo-Zuri Hybrid: dry 22 1/8 vs. wet at 25 1/4
    P-Line CX Premium: 23 1/2 vs. wet at 35 1/8

    Mono
    Trilene XT: dry 21 1/4 vs. wet at 28 7/8
    Trilene XL: dry 24 3/4 vs. wet at 36 1/2

    OVERALL OBSERVATIONS
    *Newer Co-polymer lines being marketed specifically as “low stretch” for the most part seem to be accurate (when tested dry).

    *Fluorocarbon tends to be the line with most stretch.

    *Monofilament tends to be somewhere in the middle, although those with a thicker diameter (i.e. Trilene XT .011 and Sufix Seige .010) did stretch less.

    *Line diameter may have an effect on the stretch of certain lines, but overall, lines of the same diameter seem to reflect that Co-polymer and Monofilament lines still stretch less than Fluorocarbon (when tested dry).

    *Mono and Co-polymer lines tend to stretch more when wet vs. dry. Most “catch up” to fluorocarbon in terms of overall stretch, however one co-polymer (Yo-zuri Hybrid) tested lower than any fluorocarbon either wet or dry.

    *Fluorocarbon lines tend to break easier when stretched to their maximum breaking strength.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1721628

    Fry, respect ya like he** as a fisherman but I just don’t think that test correlates to the properties us anglers see on the water.

    I’ve given XL, XT, Seige, elite, sensation, and CXX prem extensive usage on 2 rods the last two years(sensation and CXX which are still on) and just dont agree with the testing. Sensation is a copolymer FWIW.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1721641

    Fry, respect ya like he** as a fisherman but I just don’t think that test correlates to the properties us anglers see on the water.

    I’ve given XL, XT, Seige, elite, sensation, and CXX prem extensive usage on 2 rods the last two years(sensation and CXX which are still on) and just dont agree with the testing. Sensation is a copolymer FWIW.

    Yep I understand Nick. Like you I noticed differences between lines and wanted to try to measure somehow to see if the results matched my “on the water experience.” For the most part these results matched up with how I use the lines, but we all fish a little different than each other too.

    Got to admit I was a little biased against Sensation before the test (based on experience from years ago) but they have improved the line since. I have it spooled on one of my poles now and I actually really like it. So you can teach this old (Fry) Dog new tricks once in awhile ;)

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