Submerged nav cans Green Point On Pepin

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
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    #2023993

    There were a number of fishing boats that are in for insurance work from the weekend due to a just under the surface green can at green point.

    Someone has it marked with a white fender now.

    It’s that time of year folks. Watch for nav cans that are missing their sister of the opposite color. It may have moved down stream or it may have sunk.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2551
    #2023995

    Thanks! Uff dah, that’d suck to hit one.

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2023998

    Saw that this weekend. Lucky enough to have avoided any hazards. I was more worried about one of those people out there hitting me than me hitting something honestly. Had a guy float past me when I was spot locked. He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    EW6
    Posts: 150
    #2024027

    Where is “green point” please? Never heard of that.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8375
    #2024033

    Saw that this weekend. Lucky enough to have avoided any hazards. I was more worried about one of those people out there hitting me than me hitting something honestly. Had a guy float past me when I was spot locked. He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    Ah, Spring on the river.

    The older I’ve gotten, the less and less I’ve cared to deal with the crowds and fish the river in Spring. The disregard for others gets worse with each passing year. Even fishing down near the can line on my last outing where I assumed few people would be, people were obnoxious with erratic driving and crowding in on spots even when we weren’t really on fish.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2024123

    Where is “green point” please? Never heard of that.

    Follow the MN shore line on Lake Pepin while using Navionics (free version)

    Going down stream, Presbyterian Point, Friedrich Point, Wacouta Beach and then Green Point.

    I always told folks to go out with two people this time of year.
    1 to run the motor and the other to push off from other boats.

    Fishing is suppose to be fun. waytogo

    EW6
    Posts: 150
    #2024130

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>EW6 wrote:</div>
    Where is “green point” please? Never heard of that.

    Follow the MN shore line on Lake Pepin while using Navionics (free version)

    Going down stream, Presbyterian Point, Friedrich Point, Wacouta Beach and then Green Point.

    I always told folks to go out with two people this time of year.
    1 to run the motor and the other to push off from other boats.

    Fishing is suppose to be fun. waytogo

    Thanks!

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2024162

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rjthehunter wrote:</div>
    Saw that this weekend. Lucky enough to have avoided any hazards. I was more worried about one of those people out there hitting me than me hitting something honestly. Had a guy float past me when I was spot locked. He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    Ah, Spring on the river.

    The older I’ve gotten, the less and less I’ve cared to deal with the crowds and fish the river in Spring. The disregard for others gets worse with each passing year. Even fishing down near the can line on my last outing where I assumed few people would be, people were obnoxious with erratic driving and crowding in on spots even when we weren’t really on fish.

    I avoid groups at all costs… But I went up to the dam once over the weekend so see what the hype was and see if anyone was catching fish. And to get a good laugh at everyone stacked in there. So I was a ways back and made a couple dozen casts at a wing dam and the guy just comes up passes right next to me then drifts back and almost hit me. After that I went back to the much quieter area down a ways.

    Needless to say I spent about 20 mins within view of the dam and no one caught a fish and my patience was tested pretty hard. I’ll say I passed the test because I didn’t say what I was really thinking. But I did say something and push him away, so there’s that lol

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17790
    #2024179

    He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    6 inches?! Yikes

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2024193

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rjthehunter wrote:</div>
    He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    6 inches?! Yikes

    Once he was within 2 feet I put my rod down and walked to the side of the boat that he was coming towards. Then once he closed in he got a big shove away. Can’t believe some of those people down there.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2024198

    A wise man once said “a person is only fishing 1/12th the area if they only fish the dam”.

    haleysgold
    SE MN
    Posts: 1467
    #2024204

    Happens all the time. Common Sense which so many seem to be lacking these days.

    Quite a few years back, we were drifting a shoreline jigging. A guy trolling would pass within within a couple feet of us. We asked him WTH he was trying to prove. His response was, “we were in the normal trolling lane and we should move when he came through”.
    Normal trolling lane, huh.
    The 1st time he snagged us, our lines broke. He thought he lost a fish.
    The next 4 times we switched to a heavy braided line pole before he passed by us. He thought he had a whopper on pulling out his line and then we reeled in his Shad Raps, 4 times and snipped the line before he figured it out. We got 4 nice Shad Raps before he moved on.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2024221

    ^ least he knew what to use.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2024424

    Just reported on the USCG Local Notice to Mariners.

    UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER
    MILE 782.0 – SUBMERGED BUOY
    A submerged buoy, just below the waters surface, has been reported in the vicinity of Mile 782.0, Green Point. Mariners are urged to exercise caution in the area

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #2024431

    Mariners are urged to exercise caution in the area

    What about Mercuries, Yamahas, Suzukis, Hondas, Etecs…?

    rotflol

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2024437

    Just reported on the USCG Local Notice to Mariners.

    UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER
    MILE 782.0 – SUBMERGED BUOY
    A submerged buoy, just below the waters surface, has been reported in the vicinity of Mile 782.0, Green Point. Mariners are urged to exercise caution in the area

    Why don’t they fix it? Get out there and add some chain to that sucker! I’m sure it’s already cost 1000s of dollars of damage to boats…

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #2024478

    Why don’t they fix it? Get out there and add some chain to that sucker! I’m sure it’s already cost 1000s of dollars of damage to boats…

    True, but it didn’t cost commerce any $$.

    Cans are there for commercial traffic, and cans don’t hurt tow boats. They’re the reason the cans are all dented.

    Cans submerged enough to hurt a fishing boat, are visible on the surface via water disturbance.

    There are plenty of currents that also create the same looking disturbance, but don’t contain a hazard. I dodge those unless i KNOW it isn’t a hazard. Turns out, using your hands to turn a boat isn’t difficult, even if it turns out to be unnecessary.

    It pays to be attentive and cautious.

    There likely was enough chain when the buoy tug placed it, and then a tow boat ran it over and moved it, and now there isn’t enough chain as the block is likely in deeper water, or heavier current.

    Folks want a nav buoy on the wing dams up by the dam…They’re visible due to water disturbance. Visible via map. Visible via mississippi river guide.

    Co-Worker’s dad dinged his boat up going over the WI Channel closing dam, twice, in one day. There’s a line on the graph indicating a closing dam. There’s a mississippi river guide indicating a dam. There’s water disturbance indicating a dam. That person used ZERO available information before damaging their brand new boat…and then on their return…they did it again. The map even indicates the deepest section to cross, and it is correct.

    Fishing the MN river near Mankato for many years prior to moving to the mississippi makes me feel like the mississippi is a child playground in regards to hazard marking in comparison to the minnesota river.

    Fish the river as much as i do and you see get to see how much the tug boats move the cans around the river. It would be way more than $1,000’s of dollars to maintain them for those who don’t know how to read water. Probably more per day.

    Every man made hazard in the river is there for commerce. To maintain a channel. To maintain shoreline, which in turn maintains a channel, and depth.

    Operate a boat at your own risk.

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5221
    #2024488

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rjthehunter wrote:</div>
    He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    6 inches?! Yikes

    Did the boat say “scratcher”?🤔I think he does some battle out there these days.
    You basically have to have your head on a swivel in spring. Next time they get that close, start coughing and maybe they leave?

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6452
    #2024497

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>gimruis wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>rjthehunter wrote:</div>
    He was 6 inches from my boat when I asked if I could help him with anything as I pushed his boat away. Really testing my patience.

    6 inches?! Yikes

    Did the boat say “scratcher”?🤔I think he does some battle out there these days.
    You basically have to have your head on a swivel in spring. Next time they get that close, start coughing and maybe they leave?

    Or maybe it’s just a good time to take a leak and maybe accidently urine all over his boat. wave

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2024511

    It was a brand new white ranger angler 18ft with a 150 Yamaha on it.

    One of those cidiots who bought a boat and had no clue what he was doing. At one point after our encounter he fired up his kicker and was just driving around other boats

    ozzyky
    On water
    Posts: 817
    #2025109

    It was a brand new white ranger angler 18ft with a 150 Yamaha on it.
    One of those cidiots who bought a boat and had no clue what he was doing. At one point after our encounter he fired up his kicker and was just driving around other boats

    Probably the same boat that had someone else load their boat up for them at the resort..all I know is it was a ranger 😂

    rjthehunter
    Brainerd
    Posts: 1253
    #2025113

    It was a brand new white ranger angler 18ft with a 150 Yamaha on it.
    One of those cidiots who bought a boat and had no clue what he was doing. At one point after our encounter he fired up his kicker and was just driving around other boats

    Probably the same boat that had someone else load their boat up for them at the resort..all I know is it was a ranger 😂

    Appeared to be a husband and wife. Maybe early to mid 30s. If I see them this weekend I’ll snap a picture lol

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2025181

    Why don’t they fix it? Get out there and add some chain to that sucker! I’m sure it’s already cost 1000s of dollars of damage to boats…

    The buoy tender is down in Dubuque. I’m a bit surprised it’s not moving up this way by now.

    I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the chains that hold them down but it’s not something that a person can pull over the side of a boat and use a bolt cutter on. But more importantly, it sounds like it’s sunk and not a chain length issue. If a person could cut the chain, it would be best to pull it to shore. The cement anchor will need a crane to move it.

    I would recommend marking it like it is or better, and waiting for the USCG to deal with it.

    PS The river in Red Wing jump up overnight from 6.74 to 7.32.

    Justin Laack
    Austin,mn
    Posts: 490
    #2025208

    Got word from someone fishing the area this morning and white buoy is now gone as well, so be careful if heading downstream.

    Brian Klawitter
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    #2025316

    Thanks Justin!

    Tim Bossert
    Cochrane, WI
    Posts: 429
    #2031069

    There is a red just underwater about a mile upstream of Ft. City, too. Was there Saturday. On the left descending, but in the channel.

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2031319

    The Wayaconda is on her way up stream. Might want to report it to the CG, but if it’s in the channel, chances are they will catch it.

    Thanks for posting!

    sji
    Posts: 421
    #2040019

    There is a red can below the surface at the Chippewa today. All thats above the water is the lift ring.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8375
    #2040047

    There is a red can below the surface at the Chippewa today. All thats above the water is the lift ring.

    Good to know. Thanks for posting. I’ll report back if its status has changed later this week when I’m out.

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