Strong catch, warm weather push Mille Lacs walleye fishery toward state quota

  • Will Roseberg
    Moderator
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 2121
    #1555751

    http://news.dnr.state.mn.us/2015/07/21/strong-catch-warm-weather-push-mille-lacs-walleye-fishery-toward-state-quota/#more-16669

    Strong catch, warm weather push Mille Lacs walleye fishery toward state quota
    (Released July 21, 2015)
    Other fishing on Mille Lacs unaffected, remains strong and near record highs
    The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources announced today that last week’s creel survey on estimated walleye harvests, releases, and kill on Mille Lacs Lake during the first two weeks of July showed drastic increases that could result in the state reaching its limit by July 29.
    Despite the ongoing challenges with the walleye population, other fishing on the lake remains strong and near record highs. DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr stressed that anglers should take advantage of the continuation of liberal northern pike and smallmouth bass regulations on the lake.
    “Mille Lacs Lake remains one of the premiere fishing destinations in the state,” Landwehr said. “Northern pike and smallmouth bass are at or near record highs. Anglers should take advantage of the liberal regulations for these species. DNR tagging studies also indicate that muskies larger than 50 inches have never been more abundant.”
    During the first seven months of the monitoring period (December 2014 – June 2015) walleye harvest rates were at or below predicted levels, based on tight regulations adopted for the open-water season. Based upon those results, total harvest was expected to be below the State’s 28,600-pound limit for this twelve-month period and the DNR’s June 30 creel study showed the state was within 15,300 pounds of reaching the annual quota.
    However, as of July 15, when the last angler survey was conducted, the state was within just 3,000 pounds of reaching the annual quota. Records also show it was only the second time in 30 years that Mille Lacs walleye catch rates in July were higher than the second half of June. This dramatic spike is believed to be due to unusual circumstances – including the high catch rates over the 4th of July and warm water temperatures (the third highest on record). Warm water greatly increases walleye mortality on fish that had to be released because they did not fall within the harvest slot. The so-called “hooking mortality” of walleyes that die after being released counts toward the state quota.
    Gov. Mark Dayton has directed the DNR to wait until after the next creel survey which will cover the period from July 16 to July 31, to see if the most recent numbers are an aberration. During that time, officials at the DNR, the Office of Tourism, and Department of Employment and Economic Development will meet with resort owners and other affected stakeholders on Mille Lacs to discuss the situation and seek recommendations.
    A federal court decision legally requires state officials to abide by the limit agreed upon with the eight Chippewa bands for each year. After the next creel report is received, the commissioner will take the necessary actions. It should be emphasized, however, that if the state determines it has exceeded its harvest allotment, the commissioner will be legally required to suspend fishing for walleye on the lake.

    The DNR has met with the Minnesota tribes who harvest on Mille Lacs, as well as the executive administrator of the Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission on the situation and shared fisheries data with them. There is mutual concern to respond to the increased harvest and take steps necessary to protect the walleye population.
    Earlier this year, the DNR also met with Mille Lacs Lake business owners and anglers to discuss the struggling walleye population and the risks of going over the lower quota. The DNR, Department of Employment and Economic Development, and Explore Minnesota Tourism will continue working with area resorts and businesses to gather their input, assess the impact of fishing conditions on area businesses, and work with the community as a decision is made on the continuation of the fishing season.
    Additional Background on the Mille Lacs Lake Walleye Quota
    Since 2008, not enough young walleye are surviving to maturity and replenishing the Mille Lacs Lake population. As a result, Mille Lacs walleye numbers are currently at a 30-year low. In response, the state instituted more restrictive walleye regulations this year in order to protect young walleyes so they could grow older.
    In fact, this year Mille Lacs’ 2015 walleye safe harvest level was deliberately reduced from 60,000 to 40,000 pounds so that more fish could potentially survive and spawn to improve the walleye population. Under this year’s quota, state anglers can harvest up to 28,600 pounds of walleye, and the eight Chippewa bands with 1837 Treaty harvest rights can harvest up to 11,400 pounds of walleye. Anglers are able to keep one walleye that is 19- to 21-inches long, or longer than 28 inches.
    Despite this year’s low walleye population, DNR fishery surveys have shown this year that there may be good news on the horizon. Biologists are seeing a large population of young walleyes hatched in 2013. Walleyes in that group are currently 10-to 13-inches long. It is important to protect those fish so they can contribute to future angling success and walleye production.

    Will Roseberg
    Moderator
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 2121
    #1555754

    A federal court decision legally requires state officials to abide by the limit agreed upon with the eight Chippewa bands for each year. After the next creel report is received, the commissioner will take the necessary actions. It should be emphasized, however, that if the state determines it has exceeded its harvest allotment, the commissioner will be legally required to suspend fishing for walleye on the lake

    The biggest question I have is that if we are legally bound to not exceed their quota is it specifically included in the legal paperwork that the hooking mortality was supposed to be included in that quota?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22538
    #1555761

    whatajoke….

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1555766

    Netting during the spawn will cause low walleye numbers…. It’s just sad they can’t figure out the basic life cycle of the fish they say they are protecting with their big time degrees and paychecks out of tax dollars. If it wasn’t all politics they would raise hell and fix the issue.

    Bob Carlson
    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1555775

    Netting during the spawn will cause low walleye numbers…. It’s just sad they can’t figure out the basic life cycle of the fish they say they are protecting with their big time degrees and paychecks out of tax dollars. If it wasn’t all politics they would raise hell and fix the issue.

    Amen

    David Anderson
    Dayton, MN
    Posts: 520
    #1555776

    I have yet to see a creel survey person on Mille Lacs. Where are they getting this information? What the heck, seems like people should keep their mouths shut on “Boy did we nail them today”. How did we get from what the Outdoor News wrote last week with a “don’t worry” to today getting this announcement because the last 2 weeks?? I just don’t get it.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1555777

    A federal court decision legally requires state officials to abide by the limit agreed upon with the eight Chippewa bands for each year. After the next creel report is received, the commissioner will take the necessary actions. It should be emphasized, however, that if the state determines it has exceeded its harvest allotment, the commissioner will be legally required to suspend fishing for walleye on the lake

    The biggest question I have is that if we are legally bound to not exceed their quota is it specifically included in the legal paperwork that the hooking mortality was supposed to be included in that quota?

    Thinking a little deeper, why on earth would this legal agreement include a foregone decision based on a few numbers? This eliminates any possibility of making the right decision based on recent or more conclusive information.

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4054
    #1555781

    My faith in the DNR is gone.

    brian_peterson
    Eagan, MN
    Posts: 2080
    #1555801

    I have been fishing the lake all year….yet to catch a keeper. I have seen few to no boats anywhere within miles of me all year.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1555803

    Occam’s razor (or Ockham’s razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is. Occam’s razor applies especially in the philosophy of science, but also more generally.

    Netting! or all of the above?

    Angler II
    Posts: 530
    #1555849

    Based upon those results, total harvest was expected to be below the State’s 28,600-pound limit for this twelve-month period and the DNR’s June 30 creel study showed the state was within 15,300 pounds of reaching the annual quota.
    However, as of July 15, when the last angler survey was conducted, the state was within just 3,000 pounds of reaching the annual quota. Records also show it was only the second time in 30 years that Mille Lacs walleye catch rates in July were higher than the second half of June. This dramatic spike is believed to be due to unusual circumstances – including the high catch rates over the 4th of July and warm water temperatures (the third highest on record). Warm water greatly increases walleye mortality on fish that had to be released because they did not fall within the harvest slot. The so-called “hooking mortality” of walleyes that die after being released counts toward the state quota.

    Netting aside, I’m not buying that 12,300 lbs of walleye were taken/killed (hooking mortality) in 15 days. Almost half the quota in 15 days? Something isn’t right here.

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4054
    #1555885

    Netting aside, I’m not buying that 12,300 lbs of walleye were taken/killed (hooking mortality) in 15 days. Almost half the quota in 15 days? Something isn’t right here.

    I agree.

    1. Theses numbers are very small in the big picture compared to traditional harvest years. Maybe a few people exaggerating their catches threw the numbers off that bad.

    2. Maybe the lake was busy with people watching fireworks and the DNR assumed they were all catching Walleyes.

    3. My best guess is that anglers are going out to the flats, gravel, or just about anywhere and catching 20 small fish in a day. The anglers exaggerate that number to 25 when they tell the creel person. The DNR uses some formula assuming the average fish is 2 pounds. 2X25=50 lbs caught. 50 pounds times a 7% hooking mortality is 3.5 pounds of fish that didn’t survive. The facts are that those 20 small Walleyes probably weighed about 10 pounds collectively, so the mortality is under a pound.

    Angler II
    Posts: 530
    #1555889

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Angler II wrote:</div>
    Netting aside, I’m not buying that 12,300 lbs of walleye were taken/killed (hooking mortality) in 15 days. Almost half the quota in 15 days? Something isn’t right here.

    I agree.

    1. Theses numbers are very small in the big picture compared to traditional harvest years. Maybe a few people exaggerating their catches threw the numbers off that bad.

    2. Maybe the lake was busy with people watching fireworks and the DNR assumed they were all catching Walleyes.

    3. My best guess is that anglers are going out to the flats, gravel, or just about anywhere and catching 20 small fish in a day. The anglers exaggerate that number to 25 when they tell the creel person. The DNR uses some formula assuming the average fish is 2 pounds. 2X25=50 lbs caught. 50 pounds times a 7% hooking mortality is 3.5 pounds of fish that didn’t survive. The facts are that those 20 small Walleyes probably weighed about 10 pounds collectively, so the mortality is under a pound.

    My thoughts exactly. So much for the upcoming MTT on Mille Lacs. Looks like back-to-back 2 days at Winnie…..

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1555917

    so when we hit our quota, does that mean no more fishing for walleye or does that mean catch and release only? I know both topics were on the table at one time. Maybe I missed that in the article.

    brian_peterson
    Eagan, MN
    Posts: 2080
    #1555920

    I certainly hope they implement catch and release over a closure. Looks like I better think about another lake for our August vacation. I wonder how the resorts will handle the cancellations if in fact it does shut down.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1555927

    so when we hit our quota, does that mean no more fishing for walleye or does that mean catch and release only?

    That is when you go “Perch” fishing.

    Bob Carlson
    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1555930

    They will be closing the lake to all walleye fishing due to the hooking mortality that would come from catch and release fishing.

    John Gildersleeve
    Frazee,MN
    Posts: 742
    #1555931

    So when the AIM tournament is over on Sunday,I suppose they will most likely use the totals from the overall catch to go towards the quota. Does it work that way after a catch n release tournament?

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1555932

    The quota has to be getting close based on hooking mortality alone. A one fish and small slot along with less angler pressure says the quota based on keepers alone is virtually impossible.

    Angler II
    Posts: 530
    #1555934

    So when the AIM tournament is over on Sunday,I suppose they will most likely use the totals from the overall catch to go towards the quota. Does it work that way after a catch n release tournament?

    I would assume only hooking mortality would qualify.

    gonefishin
    Posts: 346
    #1556067

    I think it is definitely time to shut down the lake. If you have fished the lake all year so far, then you would know the amount of little fish that are being pulled up from the deep. Sit next to a launch for a few hours to see the qty of little fish being caught. It is not hard to catch 20 – 30 of these between a few people within a couple of hours at night. On the launches where most our probably novices and not pulling up slow, the % of fish killed must be pretty high. A couple of weekends ago the # of floaters was way up. And today on the east side with the wind blowing in, it is very easy to just stop the boat and scan the horizon. The number of dead walleyes and tulibees are amazing. They float past the boat in numbers. Even piling up on shore. These two pictures were of fish withing 50′ of each other.

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    gonefishin
    Posts: 346
    #1556071

    Sorry 2nd picture.

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    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1556082

    This is painting an awful bleak picture. I can almost guarantee the tulibee are not dying from hook mortality, it’s heat stress and it happens every year whether there are 5 boats on the lake or 5 million. The dead tulibee way out number the dead walleyes floating by 4-5 times.

    As for the launches on the lake you would be hard pressed to see one. I have been up almost every weekend this season and can count the number of launches on the lake that entire time on one hand. The launch out of our resort has been out twice this year, that’s it 2 times all season.

    gonefishin
    Posts: 346
    #1556097

    On the East side the launches are always out. This AM there even one out. McQuoids, all three, Appledorns, Hunters, all out on the weekends. I have not seen the tulliees like today. They are thick.

    Jason_N
    St. Cloud, Minnesota, USA
    Posts: 272
    #1556105

    Tulibee die off every year at this time when the water gets too warm. It’s nothing new, just some years are worse than others.

    sktrwx2200
    Posts: 727
    #1556196

    Talk about your all time worst timing for the AIM tournament on Sunday. Can only imagine that the hooking mortality of these fish will be increased being handled extra long for measuring and photographs. I’m sure it will shut down on Monday after they calculate the tournaments “hooking” rate. Just when we thought we were doing a good things for the lake tournament wise.

    Most of the $ for the summer has been made by the resorts so far (memorial thru July 4th being peak season)…
    I guess the biggest question is…
    Will it re-open in December for ICE SEASON? The amount of money lost to the resorts with no ice fishing is mind blowing!!!!!!

    Any inside info on that Bob C.?

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1556252

    They will be closing the lake to all walleye fishing due to the hooking mortality that would come from catch and release fishing.

    I really feel for the resort owners and the many business’ that depend on the lake. Does the DNR have a clue (they obviously do) the impact this has on peoples livelihood?

    A world class fishery has turned into a world class cluster f@#*. flame

    How long does this decision making continue?

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