St. Croix No Wake – How Fast Too Fast?

  • boone
    Woodbury, MN
    Posts: 935
    #1432395

    On Saturday, June 21st I was boating upstream on the St. Croix about a half mile south of the Kinni and I got stopped by the Pierce County, Wisconsin for making a “wake”. There were two young guys in the boat that I assume were deputies and they asked me if I knew the St. Croix was a no wake zone. I told them yes I did and that’s why I was going 5 mph. There was no current where I was so the 5 mph is a true speed against the water. They said I was making a wake and I disputed that. There was a light chop on the water but if you looked hard enough, yes, I suppose you could make out a 4″ high ripple behind my boat amongst the chop. My GPS speed was right around 5 mph. They took my registration, checked the fire extinguisher, jackets, and throwable and wrote me warning. This was really starting to urine me off so I asked them how fast I could go and one of them says, “No faster than necessary to maintain steerage.” So I ask, ‘So if I can maintain control at 1 mph that means I can’t go faster than 1 mph?’. He said that’s right. So I asked them where they put in and he said they came from Prescott. I then told them they better get heading back because it’s already 2:00 p.m. and Prescott is about 6 miles down stream so they won’t be back until 8:00 p.m.

    Why were these two guys such over zealous dinks? I mean really…. 1 mph. I told them they need to use a little common sense. If they need a reason to check to see if I was drinking, just pull up near me and ask me a question or two. I know law enforcement officer have a tough, dangerous job at times but why harass a guy that’s just trying to catch a few fish. There’s absolutely no danger of damage to property or shorelines from 5 mph.

    Thank goodness the DNR guys from both WI and MN are good and knowledgeable. I’ve never had an experience like this from one of them.

    bzzsaw
    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3476
    #1432398

    Boone,
    They couldn’t have been too big of jerks if they only gave you a warning. I also wouldn’t have the stones to argue with them either. Talk about putting a target on your boat.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1432732

    http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/boatwater/nowake/index.html

    No-wake defined:
    Slow no-wake speed means the slowest possible speed to maintain steerage, but no greater than 5 mph.

    Yes, Personally it is ridiculous to expect anyone to go 1-mph, although at 5-mph some boats may create a wake and still not be steerable.

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #1437739

    Didn’t see them pulling over any cabin cruisers that making a wake did you?

    steveo
    W Central Sconnie
    Posts: 4102
    #1437762

    Hopefully we won’t have to worry about that after 7/9. Appears it goes under 683

    boone
    Woodbury, MN
    Posts: 935
    #1438625

    Didn’t see them pulling over any cabin cruisers that making a wake did you?

    Jesse,

    No… Never. In all over 15 years on that stretch of river I’ve never seen them stop one single cruiser in a no wake zone. I asked these two guys why they will never stop a cruiser and they insisted they will. I told them that, no, you guys will never stop a cruiser. Granted a 30 ft. cruiser can go considerably faster than a 17 foot boat and not make a noticeable ripple but they’re clearly going faster than necessary to “maintain steerage”. I wonder what’s behind this. Does their boss (the sheriff) explicitly tell them not to harass the big boats knowing these guys obviously have money?

    Another question… can a Wisconsin deputy issue citations in Minnesota waters or vise-versa for violations such as no-wake, navigation lights,etc. I know the conservation officers from either state can for fishing violations but what about boating violations.

    Boone

    fred bartling
    Posts: 57
    #1438632

    When do you think the river levels fall below no wake regulations. So itchen to fish the river.

    Andy Groskreutz
    Minnesota
    Posts: 27
    #1438694

    No wake has been lifted in looking at the NOAA River levels.

    Charlie “Turk” Gierke
    Hudson Wisconsin
    Posts: 1020
    #1438753

    The Wookiee brings good news… I am more than ready to get my boat running on the river at “light speed!”

    May the fish be with you.

    turk

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