So, I really don’t want to get into the details/politics of where and how sports betting is handled; IE at a Casino, online/app on phone or both.
What I’m curious about is if you’re against Sports Betting. And if you’re against it what are your reasons why you are against it?
I assume most on here are for betting, so this might not be the best platform to ask this question, but maybe you know someone who’s against it and can relay their thoughts.
Not for or against.
I am against a casino monopoly. That can’t be separated from the issue.
Not for or against.
I am against a casino monopoly. That can’t be separated from the issue.
When it’s the only issue at hand vs surrounding states. Yeah pretty important part of the issue.
Guessing this topic will get pretty sideways at some point.
Im not really against it but I am just unsure why people would want to make bets on games that are rigged anyway.
I could care less about it. Here comes my questionable input, and I am in a foul mood. Gambling like alcohol/drugs can not be handled by many people, and many times end up ruining those peoples lives and maybe families. In the end society ends up paying for it, whether it is food stamps, welfare, and so and on. Who am I to say you can’t lose your house to gambling. The stock market can do the same thing, but the odds are a little more in your favor playing the stock market unless you’re an idiot, or unlucky. In gambling eventually the house will always win if you play enough. Great for the people that can play and win some lose some for entertainment. For the ones that can’t stop. Bummer, and it isn’t my place to tell them they can’t. Because I am jaded from being in business for 30+ years and have seen first hand how the average human will go out of there way to screw anyone if money is involved I will not give two sh!ts if they end up on the street. Whoa I am an A$$ hole.
Ask my friend, he lost his job and house because of sports betting/pull tabs.
I’m 100% against it. It’s addictive, degenerate, and is unraveling the moral fibers of society.
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…but what are people’s opinions on parlaying a McCaffrey anytime TD + SF cover + Brock Purdy going under 263.5 passing yards?
^asking for a friend
Had me till the Purdy part. 
Parlaying, that is where the big money is won. Got to have balls big as church bells.
Parlaying, that is where the big money is won. Got to have balls big as church bells.
Yep, Its also the bet where the highest % of betters lose. The Casino’s and sports books love Parlay bets.
I am not a big gambler but I would try it given a chance.
Show some self restraint. If you can’t afford to lose, don’t do it. Expecting to win every time is a pipe dream.
I don’t gamble much and have never done any sports betting (or ever plan to), but it’s fine with me???
What’s there to be “against”?
You can’t blame gambling for people with a gambling problem.
That’s THEIR problem….
No different than alcohol killing an alcoholic, fentanyl killing a drug addict, or a gun for killing people.
Doesn’t matter if something is legal or illegal. It’s up to each individual to have personal responsibility.
I’m for it. For starters, I’d like to see Sport Books in live casinos, horse tracks and possible in person OTB shops. (OTB = Off Track Betting) No on-line stuff where teens can set up on-line accounts. Show an ID for all betting like it is now. Let adults gamble if they choose to.
This would allow the state to keep a good grip on tax collection. And allow for strict audits and GUARANTEED pay outs.
-J.
I don’t have a problem with it. I’d probably participate as often as I buy a lottery ticket, which is maybe $25 a year. I don’t follow sports and therefore know very little about sports betting. Just got back from Vegas last evening after four nights at Bellagio. Always set aside what we were willing to lose each day and came back with almost enough left to cover dog boarding for five nights. Room was comped.
i worked to damn nabit hard for my money……i gamble very little. an occasional football pool now and t hen is about it!! i’ve had to spend time in vegas as a union rep……i didnt spend more then 30 bucks a week on gambling.
i’d be way more in favor……….minis the native casinos!!!
Why not ? I’m not much of a gambler, maybe 50 bucks in a tab box now and then. I used to spend way more when I hung out at the bar. But I’m pretty far past those days. I can’t stand the casino. I thought going to Vegas was a waste. Bur if some one wants to sports bet, then let them do it.
You can bet on just about anything in a football game or other sporting event … individual player performance, team performance, etc… Far more than just the outcome of the game itself.
Most people that sports bet, bet on-line.
Walz and the rest of the dem trifecta can’t figure out how to allow sports betting without the Indian casinos not getting the entire share of the profits.
From 11 months ago…
A bill that would legalize sports betting and give all of the action to the 11 Native American tribes with casinos in Minnesota will begin its journey through the Legislature next week.
The bill reflects the DFL’s approach to gambling: “We have had a system of tribal exclusivity around gambling for 30 years, and it’s worked well,” House Commerce Committee chair Zack Stephenson, DFL-Coon Rapids, said Tuesday in announcing the bill.
Under House File 2000 and Senate File 1949, those tribes will be allowed to apply for licenses to offer sports betting and to contract with third parties — likely the big national sports books like FanDuel, BetMGM and DraftKings — to offer the games on mobile devices. The tribes can have physical sports books at their casinos but no other brick and mortar betting parlors will be allowed. That notably leaves out the two horse racing tracks in the state that offer some casino gambling — Running Aces in Columbus and Canterbury Park in Shakopee.
The state would collect a 10% tax on revenue for mobile betting but collect no taxes on betting that takes place at casinos. That relatively low tax would produce between $12 million and $15 million a year with proceeds going to problem gambling help and youth sports, particularly in areas with high rates of juvenile crime.
Minnesotans currently can’t gamble unless they go to a casino, so allowing mobile sports betting in the state would be a major change.
The road down I-35 to Diamond Jo in North Iowa is full of young men (men of all ages actually) hungry to gamble on sports. They have a room dedicated to FanDuel sports betting.
I have not been there. I know a lot of 20 somethings that do go.
1. I am 100% against the Casino’s having a monopoly on this.
2. I am not against gambling but refuse to do it myself.
3. My good friend at the end of his career probably spent the last 10 years spending about $1,000,000 at the casino’s near Minneapolis. He lost his car, townhouse, marriage, job, and finally with a crap load of perks, in a hotel room at Mystic Lake with his last dollar in his pocket decided to stop his addiction with a 38 cal pistol. Is this my fault, nope, could I fix it for him, nope, do I miss him, yes. I am sure they just cleaned up the mess and welcomed their next victim. Does that mean gambling should be banned, nope. Have dealt with many alcoholics, alcohol is legal. You can find almost anything to be addicted to, like mine…fishing!
The state of MN needs to figure it out. The casinos have enough advantages as is. Fully legalize sports betting, get the government out of the way, and start reaping some of the financial benefits.
Society/government has long worked so hard to minimize gambling, while barely blinking at the narcotic abuse/opioid epidemic and fentanyl surge. Before frowning on someone’s $20 sports bet, how about we at least pretend to care about the things actually killing Americans daily?
I’d say of every 10 adult males I know or spend time with my age, 6 or 7 of them place occasional sports bets right from their phones.
Somewhat long story, but..
In Vegas about 20 some years ago. Herm Edwards coaching the Jets. Jets were on the west coast the prior week and lost. They’re not good. Reports were that Herm lost the locker room. The Jets go back out west again the next week (2 weeks out west in a row which is pretty unprecedented) and play I think the Chargers. I’m in the sportsbook in Caesars and everyone takes a beating on the 10am (noon) games. Jets are underdogs by only 2 or 3 on the 1pm game. Should have been underdogs by like 6-7. Everyone is saying ‘bet the Chargers, get your losses back”…I make a big bet thinking it was in the bag.
I go up to take a nap, turn the game on at halftime and Jets are winning 24-3 or something like that..
That’s the last sports bet I ever made…Never again.
My two vices are fishing and gambling. I spend way more in a year on fishing. The two vices do intersect occasionally and in that intersection is my highest rate of return in gambling. So yes, I am all for sports gambling.
Im not really against it but I am just unsure why people would want to make bets on games that are rigged anyway.
What games are being rigged? Besides a few outliers(Tim Donaghy), games are not rigged by players, refs, leagues, or bookies.
With that said, I only put down$100 every year on office Packer pool. I just don’t get enjoyment out of betting.
Walz and the rest of the dem trifecta can’t figure out how to allow sports betting without the Indian casinos not getting the entire share of the profits.
And this is why it will not happen anytime in the near future.
-J.
Doesnt hurt me or my family any . Let it rip. Although I got enough money pit hobbys – Im likely staying away from it . Whats crazy is the free money some of these apps and platforms give ya on certain sign ups ect. I know my wife and I have taken atleast 3-400 bucks A PIECE on sign ups and betting one game and getting the eff out.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Carter Johnson wrote:</div>
Im not really against it but I am just unsure why people would want to make bets on games that are rigged anyway.What games are being rigged? Besides a few outliers(Tim Donaghy), games are not rigged by players, refs, leagues, or bookies.
He’s just trolling.
Although, I would like to hear a real explanation of how these games are rigged. Typically sports players are athletically gifted and not he smarted people on earth. So, how are these major sports organizations keeping these guys from talking. Hell, they can’t keep of Twitter when there’s a riff between guys.
Anyways, I’m honestly kind of surprised I thought more on this board would be pro sports betting. I’m one, I bet on every Vikings game, plus some additional side bets. I lost my butt this year, but I enjoy it.
I agree with a lot of comments on here. 10000% against the casino monopoly and power they have regarding gaming, they’re the ones putting up a wall to get it in MN… unless they can find a way for ONLY them to get it.
I’ve actually thought about starting a Vegas or blackjack thread over the years to hear other’s experiences.
Stance wise, libertarian like most of my social opinions. Go for it. Things like gay marriage and Sunday liquor sales were in place far too long because some were morally against it. And as dumb as this sounds, tobacco companies get just screwed when it comes to advertising compared to alcohol. Bottom line… let grown citizens do things that don’t directly hurt others.
What will come first in MN anyways?
Coffee shops plus
Sports betting
Jawjackers
I really have no interest in moneyline or any of the other types of sports betting because its a coinflip every time and that is not good for making money. I see there are a bunch of these over/under sites bribing new users with upfront cash. DON’T FALL INTO THAT TRAP! take their money but don’t go in deeper. There are better ways to make a profit.
What will come first in MN anyways?
Coffee shops plus
Sports betting
JawjackersI really have no interest in moneyline or any of the other types of sports betting because its a coinflip every time and that is not good for making money.
You’re telling me a coinflip, a 50/50 bet is too risky for you?
Cripes I just bet 2 buddies that are on Devils Lake that I will catch more fish than them by myself(I won’t be fishing Devils) from the hours of 3pm-7pm. I guess I’m a degenerate. 
The road down I-35 to Diamond Jo in North Iowa is full of young men (men of all ages actually) hungry to gamble on sports. They have a room dedicated to FanDuel sports betting.
I have not been there. I know a lot of 20 somethings that do go.
I was on that same road. It was early January. I drove right past the casino about two miles and shot my last rooster of the season. The dog and I had a ball. I never stopped to gamble that night on the way home.
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