Spark test

  • Dandav
    Camanche, ia
    Posts: 27
    #1696756

    Looking for some info on how to perform a spark test. I had a coil go bad last year on my mercury 125 elpto which I took in to a mechanic to get repaired and last weekend my boat started acting the same way. last year it wasn’t getting a spark in cylinder 3 this time I think it’s 4. I was going to get some new plugs and a tester to see if I was getting a good spark. Do I just hook up the tester to each wire and turn it over with muffs on? Kind of new at trying to do this stuff thanks for any help!

    monstermatt
    Minnesota
    Posts: 87
    #1696765

    Get one of these kind of spark testers and just unplug the wire from the plug, connect tester in line between the end of the wire and the plug and start it. You will be able to see the spark in the center. Hope this helps.

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    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1696771

    You’ll want to ground out all the wires from all pulled plug wires, loose voltage aint good. Leave plugs in. Take adjustable spark tester and set to 7/16″, and make sure spark is crispy blue.

    I didn’t have a remote start so I setup my phone for video and watched playback. Turn water on muffs! Here’s what you don’t want it to look like…..

    Dandav
    Camanche, ia
    Posts: 27
    #1696808

    Ok thanks I appreciate it! Went and grabbed the stuff I needed tonight and will hopefully get working on it tomorrow. Hopefully can figure it out.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1696816

    Looking at the vid I attached the wrong one. You don’t want to hook the tester to the spark plug, rather a stripped bolt on the block somewhere(ground). If I recall I took 18gauge for the other wires and hooked them a vice grip on the block. Ain’t perty but it worked. Heard of guys running wire from battery but was told that’s overkill.

    If you find a single crappy spark find the procedure to switch coils around, if it moves with it you found your issue. If its not then join the club smash

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3831
    #1696828

    check one coil at a time,what hhamm is trying to say is you want the other plug wires unhooked so it wont start on you.
    if you dont want to ground them out like he said,put spare plugs into the loose wires and make sure the plugs are grounded from their body or threaded portion to a bolt or some where in the block,as stated,running a ground wire to the battery is overkill and unnecessary.

    do not remove the plugs in the motor as you can start a fire when a fuel charge is blown out out of the cylinder and ignited while testing.
    the reason I test with the plugs in is that you are demanding the most out of the coil while cranking with the load of compression against the starter,this is when a weak spark really shows up.

    now,if you dont see a weak spark and think its intermittent,or higher up in the rpm range,hook the muffs up and make sure all of the plugs except the one you are testing are hooked up,start the motor and watch the spark on your tester up through a high idle.

    continue testing until you find one that is intermittent or quits altogether.
    you may also want to warm the motor up a while,why?? sometimes coils dont start breaking down until they are warm.

    my own personal preference is to not have the tester inline with the suspect cylinders plug,why? you are asking the coil to jump two gaps,one in the tester,one in the plug,this can lead to a misread bad spark when in reality its fine.
    and yes,you will have someone tell you that a coil should be able to jump an eighth inch gap,this is not always true,it depends on the coils total rated output,and jumping that big of a gap is hard on the coil and the electronics in the ignition system believe it or not.

    another way to check for a coil that may be cracked is to spray water on each coil with a mister,you will most often see and hear secondary voltage leaking from that coil or wire,at the least,you will hear the motor start misfiring when the bad coil/wire gets wet.

    if I can be of further help,pm me.

    Dandav
    Camanche, ia
    Posts: 27
    #1696926

    Wow awesome! thanks for the detailed info. that helped. I think I have a good idea now. I will get back to you if I have any questions.

    Dandav
    Camanche, ia
    Posts: 27
    #1697094

    Just out of curiosity why don’t you want it to start if you leave the plug wires on the plug and you have muffs on? Was going to save a trip to the store if it’s possible to do it that way?

    mojogunter
    Posts: 3317
    #1697342

    You can run it with the muffs on. As you pull the plug wire off you will hear if that is the cylinder that is missing. If it misses after you pull the first off, put the wire back on and move to the next until you find which one is bad. Then you may be able to switch coils and check it again. To make sure that coil is the issue.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1697345

    You can run it with the muffs on. As you pull the plug wire off you will hear if that is the cylinder that is missing. If it misses after you pull the first off, put the wire back on and move to the next until you find which one is bad. Then you may be able to switch coils and check it again. To make sure that coil is the issue.

    That’s just mean whistling

    Dandav
    Camanche, ia
    Posts: 27
    #1697349

    Got it tested last night. Did it the way you guys described grounding all the wires. 3 had spark and 1 did not.i switched the coils and the no spark followed. Picked up a coil today after work and put it in and had good spark on all of them. Now to test it out the weekend! Appreciate all the help from you guys on here!

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3831
    #1697354

    just remember,if you are going to pull plug wires off of a running engine,use insulated pliers or you will get your dink knocked in the dirt real quick !!

    my own personal experience and preference for not pulling wires off of a running engine,todays electronic ignition systems and computers do not handle stray high voltage secondary current very well.
    what I mean is that voltage has to go somewhere and it can blow out the side of a coil or feed back into the ignition system seeking ground that is not designed to handle that kind of voltage.

    its best to use a spark tester and check them individually,that way the secondary current has somewhere to go and it wont harm other components in the system.
    hope that makes sense

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