So……ya want to drink & drive?

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/snowmobiler-sentenced-to-prison-for-crash-that-killed-boy/89-57f1c6ad-52b2-425d-8d5c-d018b00d811a

Might not happen to everyone, but it could happen to you. 12 1/2 years prison time.

Saw this on the news last night….if I remember right, he’s had around 4 other alcohol-related incidences?

True, 12 1/2 years might have been a light sentence in his case.

Not enough time behind bars. Double it, destroy his life forever like he did to someone else.

I work with the father on and off. Very sad deal. Very sad.

Another drunk snowmobiler crashed and almost killed a girl last Saturday on east rush lake. F(in) dumb f(ers)

Total POS perp. A total mockery of justice, this piece of crap getting only 12.5 years that will really mean far less. He’ll get out on early release and the family serves the real life sentence for this POS running down and killing their child.

Prison can’t be bad enough to really punish a piece of crap like this guy.

Grouse

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Total POS perp. A total mockery of justice, this piece of crap getting only 12.5 years that will really mean far less. He’ll get out on early release and the family serves the real life sentence for this POS running down and killing their child.

Prison can’t be bad enough to really punish a piece of crap like this guy.

Grouse

X2! 12.5 years for what he did is a joke! and like Grouse said he’ll get out in 8 years on good behavior and then we will be reading about him again after he gets another drunk conviction and ruins another family.

Good old Utah just passed the .05 BAC law like it was the people on the fringe doing all the damage. My wife and I went out for a nice dinner the other night and noticed that no one had a glass of wine with there dinner so it is apparently keeping honest people honest. As the saying goes, “Can’t fix stupid” and there will always be those folks driving under the influence out there and it is so sad that the victims are the ones that really serve the life sentence.

Way too light! In hindsight, could this of happened if the snowmobiler was sober? If I remember, it happened at dusk. I don’t have a sled and never rode one so can’t speak on that but I know speed was likely as much a factor as the alcohol.

How about speed limits for riders on lakes? Or no riding after dusk? I realize accidents like this one are pretty rare but maybe they can be prevented. I would think the booze mixed with a sled capable of going 50+ on a wide open lake is an accident waiting to happen.

I feel for the poor family…..

I say this with all seriousness…..to tie this into a few other threads on here recently….consider what this story is talking about and the lives it’s ruined; yet we’ve got people vehemently opposed to gambling & weed because they might ruin lives? I’m fairly indifferent to both weed and gambling because I won’t be partaking in either, but there’s so many people opposed to both when we’ve been living with alcohol killing people for how many years.

Nope could not happen to me I don’t drive drunk. sentence way to light.

SuperDave1959 wrote:

Good old Utah just passed the .05 BAC law like it was the people on the fringe doing all the damage.

I have no problem with Way tougher drunk driving law’s. Far as I am concerned – If you kill someone driving drunk. You deserve the same punishment as if you killed them with a gun. I do have a little problem with how low some states are going with on the BAC amounts. I just have not seen much valid evidence that proves you driving is impaired at a .05 BAC. At a .05 BAC a person could not even have a beer over a few hr’s and not risk blowing a .05. Its a bit sad that you can not go out for dinner and have a beer, glass of wine, or mixed drink drive home a Hr or 2 later. Just my .02 worth

I get this is a little too harsh, but in all honesty, why can’t drunk driving be an attempted murder charge for every vehicle you pass on the road? Carelessly aiming your car (or snowmobile) down the road is but isn’t different than aiming a gun at someone and just happen to miss.

eyeguy507 wrote:

Way too light! In hindsight, could this of happened if the snowmobiler was sober? If I remember, it happened at dusk. I don’t have a sled and never rode one so can’t speak on that but I know speed was likely as much a factor as the alcohol.

How about speed limits for riders on lakes? Or no riding after dusk? I realize accidents like this one are pretty rare but maybe they can be prevented. I would think the booze mixed with a sled capable of going 50+ on a wide open lake is an accident waiting to happen.

I feel for the poor family…..

There is already a statewide speed limit for snowmobiles at 50mph. It is recommended when you go through safety training to reduce your speed at night, as it has been proven that at 50mph you are over-driving your headlight in most instances. Couple that with ice that likely did not have snow at the time, so even if you put on the brakes, a sled is hard to stop on glare ice, even with a studded track.

I’m just glad that some justice has been served. Wish it was more, but I’m not the judge.

At least he wasn’t exonerated on some stupid technicality like an incorrect test or equipment out of calibration.

I’ll never forget when he killed that boy. I sat on the couch in tears watching the news with my two boys at my side.

Rest in peace little Alan.

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I haven’t looked into the specifics, but the facebook thread says he will likely be out in 9. He had piles of previous incidents. This sentence is a joke.

SuperDave1959 wrote:

Good old Utah just passed the .05 BAC law like it was the people on the fringe doing all the damage. My wife and I went out for a nice dinner the other night and noticed that no one had a glass of wine with there dinner so it is apparently keeping honest people honest. As the saying goes, “Can’t fix stupid” and there will always be those folks driving under the influence out there and it is so sad that the victims are the ones that really serve the life sentence.

I’m a proponent of tougher DUI laws. I’m also a proponent of any laws to toughen penalties for cell phone/ distracted driving. With the Maryjane thing taking off now I’ll be a proponent for DWH [driving while high] and urge to find a way to test on the spot for MJ intoxication. What’s really scary at the state as well as federal level, is the number of elected officials who create our laws that are driving under the influence at any given time after lunches and dinners or social/political events.

What’s really scary at the state as well as federal level, is the number of elected officials who create our laws that are driving under the influence at any given time after lunches and dinners or social/political events.
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Not only that but I see alot of people sit at the bar half the night having cocktails and then hoping in a car to drive as well.

Before we drag out the vigilante hanging ropes lets remember something. If this happened to a first time offender we likely are looking at 6 years or less jail time. What sets this guy apart was he was a 4 time loser who ended up killing a kid. Yes he deserved what he got this time. But he also deserved far far more than what he got the time before. In what world is it ok that he was still out walking around after losing his license 4 times?

It’s very sad what happened. But to me it’s even sadder that there are guys out there with 10 – 12 DWI convictions still on the streets.

We need to go back to public shaming…….put 2nd time DWI offenders on local billboards in their cities. Put multiple time (3 or more) DWI offenders on work gangs cleaning up the ditches and parks of this country. Make it a work release program in that at the end of your shift you are returned to jail.

I was at the fund raiser and left a little money behind. There were a lot of people there that day and i’m sure a lot of money was raised. But that money doesn’t bring anybody back, all we can do is stay on top of the politicians to toughen these multiple offense DWI laws.

https://www.gofundme.com/y3yxg6-brady039s-battle?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_dn_cpgntopstickysmall_r

Stuff happens way too often. Schoolmate of my daughters.

We can all sit and be keyboard warriors but what does everyone here do outside the realm of the WWW to address these problems?

Have you contacted your city/state/federal rep urging for harsher laws?

Have you been that guy at the bar or social event where someone did have a few too many and not offered rides, or even stopped folks from driving? Called them out on it in front of everyone?

We can blame the system all we want but there is alot we all can do to help these drunks to not hurt others.

Tell them to get a attorney A.S.A.P. there is money available to them.

Just another case of a multiple time loser driving yet again.

Dutchboy wrote:

Tell them to get a attorney A.S.A.P. there is money available to them.

Just another case of a multiple time loser driving yet again.

Personally I know one individual who lost his license to DUI 4 times and never quit driving. Currently he has no license due to medical conditions and he’s still driving. He uses someone else’s vehicle who has no restrictions nor is there a flag on the vehicle’s license plates. He’s been reported numerous times yet law enforcement says they can do nothing unless an officer sees him on the road in the driver’s seat. And this guy is pot head numero uno, big time stupor most of the time and when he isn’t in La La he’s on meth or coke.

Something has to change…like making it a criminal offense for anyone owning a motor vehicle of any kind….atv, car, track, boat, sled….to allow a known non-license holder to operate any said vehicle and make it as easy as a simple phone call to report such activity. Pull the plates until the matter gets resolved. People letting others without licenses use their vehicles should get 90 days straightaway.

People with multiple infractions don’t seem to learn and should not have access to a license after the second ticket. If they’re caught behind the wheel without a license again for the first time they should do a year and a day, no good time, in prison. Nobody that has ever taken and passed a driver’s test is stupid enough not to know the rules. Its all this hand slapping for multiple offenses that leads to dead innocents. Why are the idiots breaking the law always the one to live and we have to feed their sorry arses or patch them up at tax-payers expense?

first off, he is not a snowmobiler, he was driving a snowmobile to the bars because he lost his license to drive a car. they did pass a new law that forbids anyone that is convicted of a DUI to operate any motor vehicle including snowmobiles, ATV, mopeds and even boats. but what good is that when you still have people that have 10 or more DUI and still drive.

the sentence is way to light, like said he should have gotten at least a first degree assault or attempted murder charges, which would bring it up to 20 years in prison.:???:

I agree that they need to be much tougher laws on texting and driving also, which also kills many people.