2012 vs 2013 MX1825 Differences

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17933
    #1320493

    Curious what all changed between 2012 & 2013 models? 2013 changes I noticed are the MX1825 emblems are now a chrome/metal vs 2012 stickers, the 2013 livewell’s have a form fitting pad on the doors that reduces spills, the folding cup holders look a little different for 2013, and finally the toggle switch layout looks a little different for 2013 (horn now on a different switch and no longer red)

    Anybody know of other changes? What changes would you want to see on the 2014 model year?

    to_setter
    Stone Lake, WI
    Posts: 591
    #1179265

    In addition to what you’ve mentioned, there is a drain hole for the side storage pods on either side of the rear livewell. I believe the master power switch got moved so you don’t bump it?….

    Zach H
    Posts: 374
    #1179276

    The seats are also a minor change from one year to the next. My preference is that the 2013 seats are better looking.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1179295

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    What changes would you want to see on the 2014 model year? [/quote

    I don’t think you will be able to get a 200 HPDI on the 2014. You will be able to put the 4 cylinder 200 hp 4-stroke on it though.

    FDR

    Zach H
    Posts: 374
    #1179366

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    What changes would you want to see on the 2014 model year? [/quote

    I don’t think you will be able to get a 200 HPDI on the 2014. You will be able to put the 4 cylinder 200 hp 4-stroke on it though.

    FDR


    Why do you think that? The only 200HP you can run on a 2012′ 1825 is the HPDI due to weight restrictions. So if they can put a four stroke on it you should be able to put a HPDI on it, unless they outlaw them due to emissions controls for some reason.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1179512

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    What changes would you want to see on the 2014 model year?


    I don’t think you will be able to get a 200 HPDI on the 2014. You will be able to put the 4 cylinder 200 hp 4-stroke on it though.

    FDR


    Why do you think that? The only 200HP you can run on a 2012′ 1825 is the HPDI due to weight restrictions. So if they can put a four stroke on it you should be able to put a HPDI on it, unless they outlaw them due to emissions controls for some reason.


    Steve, the Skeeter rep, told me that the 200hp 2 stroke won’t be in production. If I remember correctly, and there was a lot of info flying at me, he also said that the only 200hp 2 stroke motors left at the plant are already mounted to 4 WX 1900’s. This was as of about noon yesterday.

    On his demo mx 1825, he has the new 200hp 4cyclinder 4stroke on it. So it would seem that they will be utilizing that engine in the 1825 with the 4 stroke 150 hp as another option.

    FDR

    Zach H
    Posts: 374
    #1179598

    I wonder if they are having problems with the 200HPDI and that’s why they are getting rid if it? Would be interesting to see their reasoning behind discontinuing that motor.

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1179616

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    I wonder if they are having problems with the 200HPDI and that’s why they are getting rid if it? Would be interesting to see their reasoning behind discontinuing that motor.


    I am going to guess government emissions or a 200sho right around the corner.

    FDR

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1179632

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    I am going to guess government emissions or a 200sho right around the corner.

    FDR


    The HPDI has always been a very reliable motor but as emission standards have been tightened and Yamaha began demonstrating their ability to produce 4 strokes with 2 stroke performance and weight the days of the DFI 2 stroke motors were numbered.

    In my opinion once you’ve been behind the wheel of a boat powered by one of the Off-Shore or SHO outboards it would be very difficult to go back to a DFI 2 stroke of any brand.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1179636

    Here’s the breakdown on weights for the 3 – 200 HP Yamaha motors.

    Yamaha iFour 200 HP Weight = 489 (long shaft)

    Yamaha HPDI 200 HP Weight = 475

    Yamaha F200 200 HP Weight = 608 (long shaft)

    As you can see the iFour is basically the same weight as the 200 HPDI. The original 200 Four Stroke from Yamaha, the F200, weighs 608 lbs. That’s basically the weight of an extra kicker hanging off the back of the boat and why you can run the new iFour on an MX1825 but the factory didn’t want to see the F200 on that same model.

    Note, this has nothing to do with transom strength. Hulls are engineered to perform best with motors of a certain weight. Specifically the engineers build in “hook” at the trailing edge of the hull surface to provide enough lift to get the boat hull and motor up and out of the water to allow for good top end speed and handling. Adding additional hook to provide extra lift is always possible but at the cost of top end speed.

    If the Skeeter engineers had designed the hull to perform best with the F200 which would have required additional hook to lift the heavier motor, anglers that chose the 150 option or a 200 HPDI or iFour 200 would have seen reduced top end speed.

    This wouldn’t have made any sense knowing that the F200 was going to be phased out as an option for the walleye boat market. For this reason, knowing that the new iFour would weight about the same as the HPDI and much less than the F200, the engineers designed the MX1825 hull to perform best with the lighter motors.

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