The New Skeeter MX2025 – A Fishing Perspective

  • Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #1320483

    While I’m sure James would’ve given me a chance at the wheel, I wanted to share my perspective on this rig as an angler. Ultimately, the ride/feel of these boats is something that any prospective boat-buyer can learn for themselves. By attending one of the Ride and Drive Events, or scheduling a test-drive with Dean at Skeeter Boat Center, you can get a feel for the controls, the performance, and the overall ride you get while in-transit. But how does it fish? What does it track like at trolling speeds, how does wind affect it, and how is it laid-out to either help or hinder your day on the water?

    Don’t get me wrong, I was more than happy with how it handled a windy day on the water. The way it handled the churning mess coming out of the can-line at the head of Lake Pepin, where current was headed one-way, and wind was pushing another…..was, well…impressive in a word. I say this after fishing the very next day out of my rig. A Pro-V with a 150 Merc EFI on the back-end. Same conditions, two days, two different boats. My Pro-V, and its passengers, had a hard time dealing at 20MPH, what that 2025 could do at twice that speed or more.

    Fishing the very next day in my own boat, was also good from a “fishability” comparison as well. Keep in-mind, that my Pro-V is custom tailored to the way I like to fish. I’ve owned it for about 6 years, and I’ve got it just the way I want it. Or so I thought. This isn’t the first time I’ve fished in a Skeeter obviously, but it’s the first time I’ve been able to directly compare my current boat to one of the Skeeters so aptly.

    The MX is designed to be a multi-species boat, but what does that mean? Just before launch, I took out an extended casting deck from the back. Skeeter calls it a rear deck extension, and it’s exclusive to the 2025. Maybe an extra 10″es or a foot to stand on, this feature locked in well, with its own folding supports. Nice option!!! If fishing bass or pike/muskies for the day, that extra room makes the spacious rear casting deck into a platform.

    You can see it in this picture, just behind the two seats with the two support braces touching the floor. This also creates some extra room to stow odds/ends:

    Storage, especially tackle is what makes a multi-species boat the most problematic of all to rig and store. Take my boat for example. No matter how much I try to turn that thing into a do-it-all boat, it’s limited by a few features, especially in storage, that limit its use. The way that Skeeter has solved that dilemma is a series of plastic sleeves or rear-drop-in-boxes that James found holds eight (8) of the 3700 sized boxes perfectly. Pull the whole sleeve at the end of the day, and you’ve got a boat-specific tackle box that can be added to or taken from a number of different ways. They even have drain holes in the bottom…..perfect for a pulling some eaters out and stowing in ice for the trip home; complete with drain holes in the bottom so the fish didn’t sit in their own pile of slime!!!

    A simple sleeve fits inside these rear hatches, and can be added/removed with ease:

    The rod locker comparison isn’t fair, so I won’t dwell on it. Dedicated, primary rod storage in the side of the boat has been a thing of the past for some-time, but to have the option for center console storage AND side-storage for the long-rods? Luxury. Especially when trolling like we did. Two 10’6″ Eyecons, 7’6″ Tidemasters, several rods to spare, plus all the other rods we needed in either of the spaces. Another multi-species hallmark. How often have you wanted to troll to find fish, then cast to concentrated numbers of them? This just isn’t possible in my rig, at least to the level I’d like to take it. Here’s pics of both:

    As for further storage, I won’t post pics of the deep wells up on the front casting platform, because the pictures just don’t do it justice. The amount of tackle, coolers, production cases and camera equipment we put up there is something you just have to experience. You literally have to “try” to overload the thing just to see how much room those storage areas have. The little things I liked most are actually the most subtle. Who’d have thought how valuable a glove box is? Or under console-storage? These are for cell-phones, cameras, snaps, anything we needed directly and easily accessible, yet had to be stowed to protect from water, wind, waves, etc.:

    Now down to the trolling. This boat fishes solid. I had a hard time reproducing the results from the day previous because of the wind we faced. Don’t get me wrong, it blew from the same direction, and the same speed each day, but the way that boat handled made our trolling runs much more consistent and fishable. My Pro-V surged at the bottom of the waves and stalled on the climb when going with the wind, resulting in speeds that spiked over 4mph, and dwindled to the low 2’s. Our rods were constantly loading up and stalling out, resulting in fewer fish at least in my mind. When going into the wind, it was even worse, as quartering into the waves rolled us hard left, making it difficult to correct for without over-correcting our steering. It made me appreciate the stability in that MX and what it meant for trolling. While we didn’t cast, I can only imagine how much more stable a platform you’d have to pepper shorelines or slowly work deep structure.

    All in all, it gives me pause when looking between the 1825 and 2025. One of the two will be my dream-boat, and I never would’ve considered that 2025 without fishing out of it recently. There are too many features, that offer multiple-points of practicality, to ignore it. I’m looking forward to spending more time in it to help make my decision for me!

    Joel

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1173866

    Do we have any idea what the smallest HP motor that would do a good job with that boat? 300hp is to much money for me.

    KirtH
    Lakeville
    Posts: 4063
    #1173874

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    Do we have any idea what the smallest HP motor that would do a good job with that boat? 300hp is to much money for me.


    I am sure Brian K could help you out, rumor has it he has jars of cash buried around his trailer

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #1173882

    We have a couple of the 2025’s out there with 200’s. One with the HPDI and one with the 200 4-stroke (non Offshore). I have yet to hear a complaint from either of them on lack of performance.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1173889

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    We have a couple of the 2025’s out there with 200’s. One with the HPDI and one with the 200 4-stroke (non Offshore). I have yet to hear a complaint from either of them on lack of performance.


    I have always wondered about that. We are talking a full 100hp difference. That seems to me like there would be a huge difference in performace. I wonder what those different numbers and percieved feel would be.

    Of course I am seeing here that it is still a 50 MPH boat with the 200hp on the back.

    http://cdn.in-depthoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/bbu_images/fishing/post_images/MX2025-F200B-18-Reliance.pdf

    http://www.idofishing.com/forum/showflat.php/Number/1188685/fpart/1/mx-2025-w-200-hp-four-stroke

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1173894

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    Do we have any idea what the smallest HP motor that would do a good job with that boat? 300hp is to much money for me.


    There is a $3750 difference between the 200hp and 300hp.

    I was first temped to say, “If a person is dropping 59k on a boat (53k for boat/motor/trailer + 6k for electronics + 3k for kicker) is the $3750 really that big of a deal?”. But after some reflection I can see that it can be. In my own case I could see the value of ordering a MX 2025 with a 200hp on the back.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1173911

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Do we have any idea what the smallest HP motor that would do a good job with that boat? 300hp is to much money for me.


    There is a $3750 difference between the 200hp and 300hp.

    I was first temped to say, “If a person is dropping 59k on a boat (53k for boat/motor/trailer + 6k for electronics + 3k for kicker) is the $3750 really that big of a deal?”. But after some reflection I can see that it can be. In my own case I could see the value of ordering a MX 2025 with a 200hp on the back.


    And didn’t I read somewhere today you are thinking about dropping down to a 115 hp tiller because of the cost of gas? Yes, money does matter whether its $3,750 for the motor or 40 cents a gallon to run it. Add in the difference for insurance and you will see the 300hp motor doesn’t fit many budgets.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1173913

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    And didn’t I read somewhere today you are thinking about dropping down to a 115 hp tiller because of the cost of gas? Yes, money does matter whether its $3,750 for the motor or 40 cents a gallon to run it. Add in the difference for insurance and you will see the 300hp motor doesn’t fit many budgets.


    Yes, yes you did.

    So along those same lines putting an outboard that burns 19.9 GPH at WOT and still achieves 50MPH vs. the 26.1 GPH the 300hp burns can make sense.

    Considering both the WX2000T and the MX2025 come in at just over 20′. They both would handle the rough stuff at 40 MPH comfortably. That then raises the question, “will the 300hp guys be running over 40 MPH in a 3′-4′ chop?”

    If not, then that really makes the 20’/200hp combo appealing.

    I never did consider the INS difference.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1173919

    But regardless of motor size, it’s a pretty boat!!

    Sorry to hijack the thread Joel.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3808
    #1174038

    Great read Joel. I also had a 1800 PRO V and was very happy with it. I also had it for 6 fishing seasons and had it set up pretty well. I started following the MX story here on IDO and asking questions of some of the first people to drive and/or buy one. Went to a dealer closest to my location to look at one first hand. Never had owned a glass boat or thought that I ever would. Needless to say I love my MX1825. There is no comparison to an aluminum boat when it comes to ride, dryness, or handling compared to the MX. Skeeter has almost everything thought out with these models as far I am concerned.

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #1174089

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    But regardless of motor size, it’s a pretty boat!!

    Sorry to hijack the thread Joel.


    No problem Brian! These are the considerations you make when boat-shopping, and that’s what it’s all about. I’ll be making a decision regarding my current rig in the next couple of seasons, and it’s been great to see the thought processes that everyone else is going through. It’s a big investment, and the best way to be happy with your purchase is to do the homework!

    Joel

    Joel Nelson
    Moderator
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3137
    #1174090

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    Great read Joel. I also had a 1800 PRO V and was very happy with it. I also had it for 6 fishing seasons and had it set up pretty well. I started following the MX story here on IDO and asking questions of some of the first people to drive and/or buy one. Went to a dealer closest to my location to look at one first hand. Never had owned a glass boat or thought that I ever would. Needless to say I love my MX1825. There is no comparison to an aluminum boat when it comes to ride, dryness, or handling compared to the MX. Skeeter has almost everything thought out with these models as far I am concerned.


    After all the bad things I said about her, I couldn’t look my Lund in the bow when I walked past her last night. Like yours, it’s a great boat and there are still some things I love about it over glass.

    I think the thing that got me was fishing out of my Pro-V immediately following a day in that MX. To me, the performance statistics and speed are nice on any of the configured motors, and those are well-documented on this site and the Skeeter page. It seems that most people are very interested in these, and for good cause given the price differences. I was more impressed in the fishing differences; set-up, stability, organization, storage, tracking, etc. I get to fish in a good number of different boats, but this one more than the rest really stuck with me. I’ll be spending some more time in coming weeks with my butt planted in a Ranger, so I’ll get a chance to kick the tires on a different glass boat too.

    Eventually I’ll be ready to purchase, and when I do it’ll be the most over-researched, obsessed-over decision I’ll ever make. Which is the way it should be when buying your dream boat right?

    Joel

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1174914

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    There is a $3750 difference between the 200hp and 300hp.

    I was first temped to say, “If a person is dropping 59k on a boat (53k for boat/motor/trailer + 6k for electronics + 3k for kicker) is the $3750 really that big of a deal?”. But after some reflection I can see that it can be. In my own case I could see the value of ordering a MX 2025 with a 200hp on the back.


    Earlier in the spring Skeeter Boat Center had the MX 2025 with the 200Z motor (HPDI) priced at $44,990. That was boat, motor, trailer, bow mount electric, batteries and charger. While the pricing may have changed since I would bet it is still right in the ballpark. Point being you can get quite a bit of boat for well under $50k.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1175576

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    I never did consider the INS difference.


    FWIW – the insurance “hit” on the 300 versus a 225 or 250 is almost negligible. This was not the case even just a couple years back when I was seeing an extra 75% up-charge over the 250. Now in 2013 I don’t know that there’s a $100 difference per year. It seems that the insurance companies have come to grips with the larger motors and they must have found that they don’t add much if any additional risk.

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