Sig Sauer owners

Gunmaker Sig Sauer Inc. was ordered by a Pennsylvania jury to pay $11 million to a customer who alleged defects in one of the company’s pistols led it to go off without him pulling the trigger.

Jurors in state court in Philadelphia concluded on Wednesday that Sig Sauer was liable for selling a defective gun and holster in a case brought by George Abrahams, a U.S. Army veteran and painting contractor. The panel ordered the company to pay $1 million for Abraham’s injuries and $10 million in punitive damages over the P320 pistol, his lawyers said.

Earlier this year, a federal jury in Georgia awarded $2.35 million to another P320 pistol owner who also alleged the weapon was defective. Sig Sauer weapons are the official side arms of several armies around the world, including the US.

“We successfully argued Sig Sauer knew of the risks of the P320s design, predicted these risks would injure its customers, and saw these risks play out in the real world,” Robert Zimmerman, Abrahams’ lawyer, said in a statement.

Sig Sauer said it would appeal, arguing that jurors found Abraham’s own negligence contributed to the gun’s discharge. Sig Sauer is headquartered in Newington, New Hampshire, but its predecessor company was founded in Switzerland in 1853.

“Sig Sauer believes the jury’s ruling was unsupported by, and contrary to, the evidence presented,” officials said in their statement. “Plaintiff ignored numerous safety rules and warnings in handling his gun and had never trained with or fired his gun before the discharge.”

The gun went off after Abrahams put the pistol in the pocket of his athletic pants and went downstairs in his home. The accidental discharge sent a bullet into his thigh.

Abraham argued the P320 pistol was made with a dangerously easy-to-pull trigger and no safety mechanism to bar users from unintentionally pulling it.

Zimmerman, who also brought the Georgia case, said his law firm has another 100 lawsuits against Sig Sauer over the P320 pistol. The lawyer said the next two trials are scheduled in state court in Boston early next year.

The case is Abraham v. Sig Sauer, No. 2206026605, Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas (Philadelphia)

Oh boy, sig is gonna get beat up AGAIN.

I love my SIG! I have a hard time buying it went off in his pocket, maybe he reached in to pull it out and made a mistake and now someone else needs to take the blame for it.

Depending on these future case’s, this may end up badly for Sig. I myself do not own one, but they have been high on my list the last few times I’ve shopped for a new handgun. I know many on here are against a handgun with a external safety but I personally prefer them myself. Just my personal choice. I train with my often and don’t feel like it would ever be a issue in a high stress situation if ever needed.

The 320 has been accused of going off without pulling the trigger since the first day they hit the market.

First I heard of it. Is the trigger just that light?

Riverrat wrote:

The 320 has been accused of going off without pulling the trigger since the first day they hit the market.

An Army Veteran who carries in his sweat pants pocket in his own house ?

I don’t know the details of the issues but remember there’s an upgrade program for P320s: https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-voluntary-upgrade-program#faqs

“we have confirmed that usually after multiple drops, at certain angles and conditions, a potential discharge of the firearm may result when dropped”

They had lots of accusations of drop firing from the start with a “voluntary upgrade” program. I think its the firing pin geometry but I am not a gunsmith at all.

I’m 6’2″ 265 lbs so when I carry appendix, muzzle points at my important stuff.

I stopped edc’ing my p320 a month ago. There’s a lot of literature out there about these pistols and I do believe most

However, the tolerance stacking that can occur with excessive use of mim internals combined with the sheer volume of documented ND’s with p320 finally got to me.

Drop safe issue was related to too much trigger mass. That was addressed by sign years ago. But tolerance stacking

I may consider a p365 as the FCU design was ground up. Meanwhile I’ll continue with my p250 which was the p320 predecessor in DAO and is proven safe and free of the p320 issues. I carried it for 10 years before moving to 320 and I trust it completely.

I have tested my own p320 extensively through dropping and hammering on it and I couldn’t produce any uncommanded action, but at the end of the day as these mim parts wear through use the tolerance stacking issues can surface.

My 2 cents anyway.

KPE wrote:

I may consider a p365 as the FCU design was ground up.

That is what I carry. Nice little gun, I have the 365xl

365xl with a Holosun 507 red dot….awesome little setup. Had the Hellcat, Sig is night and day better IMO

John Rasmussen wrote:

I love my SIG! I have a hard time buying it went off in his pocket, maybe he reached in to pull it out and made a mistake and now someone else needs to take the blame for it.

As the others said, this isn’t something new especially with the p320, that’s why my original post said AGAIN!!!

I carry Sig everyday. I didn’t jump on their P320, and still carry a P228, P220, and P226. I feel safer having a DA/SA setup.

Bearcat89 wrote:

As the others said, this isn’t something new especially with the p320, that’s why my original post said AGAIN!!!

Sounds like most of what was mentioned is it going off when being dropped not just moving around in your sweats while going downstairs.

big_g wrote:

An Army Veteran who carries in his sweat pants pocket in his own house ?

LOL

acarroline wrote:

365xl with a Holosun 507 red dot….awesome little setup. Had the Hellcat, Sig is night and day better IMO

Why is that? Curious.

Steven Krapfl wrote:

I carry Sig everyday. I didn’t jump on their P320, and still carry a P228, P220, and P226. I feel safer having a DA/SA setup.

I carry the P229 (40cal) and love it. I’ve got 2 of them and wouldn’t consider anything else.

Ripjiggen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>acarroline wrote:</div>
365xl with a Holosun 507 red dot….awesome little setup. Had the Hellcat, Sig is night and day better IMO

Why is that? Curious.

Probably a personal thing, but the fit in my hands and how solid the build feels for one thing. Second, the Hellcat came with a red dot installed and the first time out at the range it came off when I fired a round and cut my forehead. After some research and conversation with the company this was a common issue with that gun/sight, known issue to the company, and they didn’t do any recall. They were more than happy to take the unit back and provide my with a different unit of my choice, from another company…to bring the matter to a close.

Ripjiggen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>acarroline wrote:</div>
365xl with a Holosun 507 red dot….awesome little setup. Had the Hellcat, Sig is night and day better IMO

Why is that? Curious.

The hellcat is not know to be a quality gun. Cheap trigger crap handle and poor sights.