Sig Sauer owners

  • Kraig5858
    Posts: 82
    #2300785

    Gunmaker Sig Sauer Inc. was ordered by a Pennsylvania jury to pay $11 million to a customer who alleged defects in one of the company’s pistols led it to go off without him pulling the trigger.

    Jurors in state court in Philadelphia concluded on Wednesday that Sig Sauer was liable for selling a defective gun and holster in a case brought by George Abrahams, a U.S. Army veteran and painting contractor. The panel ordered the company to pay $1 million for Abraham’s injuries and $10 million in punitive damages over the P320 pistol, his lawyers said.

    Earlier this year, a federal jury in Georgia awarded $2.35 million to another P320 pistol owner who also alleged the weapon was defective. Sig Sauer weapons are the official side arms of several armies around the world, including the US.

    “We successfully argued Sig Sauer knew of the risks of the P320s design, predicted these risks would injure its customers, and saw these risks play out in the real world,” Robert Zimmerman, Abrahams’ lawyer, said in a statement.

    Sig Sauer said it would appeal, arguing that jurors found Abraham’s own negligence contributed to the gun’s discharge. Sig Sauer is headquartered in Newington, New Hampshire, but its predecessor company was founded in Switzerland in 1853.

    “Sig Sauer believes the jury’s ruling was unsupported by, and contrary to, the evidence presented,” officials said in their statement. “Plaintiff ignored numerous safety rules and warnings in handling his gun and had never trained with or fired his gun before the discharge.”

    The gun went off after Abrahams put the pistol in the pocket of his athletic pants and went downstairs in his home. The accidental discharge sent a bullet into his thigh.

    Abraham argued the P320 pistol was made with a dangerously easy-to-pull trigger and no safety mechanism to bar users from unintentionally pulling it.

    Zimmerman, who also brought the Georgia case, said his law firm has another 100 lawsuits against Sig Sauer over the P320 pistol. The lawyer said the next two trials are scheduled in state court in Boston early next year.

    The case is Abraham v. Sig Sauer, No. 2206026605, Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas (Philadelphia)

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20354
    #2300791

    Oh boy, sig is gonna get beat up AGAIN.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6348
    #2300798

    I love my SIG! I have a hard time buying it went off in his pocket, maybe he reached in to pull it out and made a mistake and now someone else needs to take the blame for it.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #2300799

    Depending on these future case’s, this may end up badly for Sig. I myself do not own one, but they have been high on my list the last few times I’ve shopped for a new handgun. I know many on here are against a handgun with a external safety but I personally prefer them myself. Just my personal choice. I train with my often and don’t feel like it would ever be a issue in a high stress situation if ever needed.

    Riverrat
    Posts: 1528
    #2300801

    The 320 has been accused of going off without pulling the trigger since the first day they hit the market.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6348
    #2300807

    First I heard of it. Is the trigger just that light?

    The 320 has been accused of going off without pulling the trigger since the first day they hit the market.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22454
    #2300809

    An Army Veteran who carries in his sweat pants pocket in his own house ? crazy

    Riverrat
    Posts: 1528
    #2300818

    They had lots of accusations of drop firing from the start with a “voluntary upgrade” program. I think its the firing pin geometry but I am not a gunsmith at all.

    KPE
    River Falls, WI
    Posts: 1679
    #2300825

    I’m 6’2″ 265 lbs so when I carry appendix, muzzle points at my important stuff.

    I stopped edc’ing my p320 a month ago. There’s a lot of literature out there about these pistols and I do believe most

    However, the tolerance stacking that can occur with excessive use of mim internals combined with the sheer volume of documented ND’s with p320 finally got to me.

    Drop safe issue was related to too much trigger mass. That was addressed by sign years ago. But tolerance stacking

    I may consider a p365 as the FCU design was ground up. Meanwhile I’ll continue with my p250 which was the p320 predecessor in DAO and is proven safe and free of the p320 issues. I carried it for 10 years before moving to 320 and I trust it completely.

    I have tested my own p320 extensively through dropping and hammering on it and I couldn’t produce any uncommanded action, but at the end of the day as these mim parts wear through use the tolerance stacking issues can surface.

    My 2 cents anyway.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6348
    #2300827

    I may consider a p365 as the FCU design was ground up.

    That is what I carry. Nice little gun, I have the 365xl

    acarroline
    Posts: 573
    #2300833

    365xl with a Holosun 507 red dot….awesome little setup. Had the Hellcat, Sig is night and day better IMO

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20354
    #2300840

    I love my SIG! I have a hard time buying it went off in his pocket, maybe he reached in to pull it out and made a mistake and now someone else needs to take the blame for it.

    As the others said, this isn’t something new especially with the p320, that’s why my original post said AGAIN!!!

    Steven Krapfl
    Springville, Iowa
    Posts: 1724
    #2300849

    I carry Sig everyday. I didn’t jump on their P320, and still carry a P228, P220, and P226. I feel safer having a DA/SA setup.

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