Shallow sticks

Having trouble finding baits that stay in that 3-6′ other than the original floating Rapala while trolling. Huskys dive to deep.

Any ideas?

Yozuri pins, and other shallow sticks

Brads stick baits – primarily used for fishing the surface on Lake Superior for salmon/trout. They have lots of patterns that would be great for walleyes.

nhamm wrote:

Having trouble finding baits that stay in that 3-6′ other than the original floating Rapala while trolling. Huskys dive to deep.

Any ideas?

What’s your line diameter and how much are you letting back? A #6 or #8 HJ should really max out at 6 and can be kept shallower by adjusting line out. Here are a bunch of others that max out at 6 ft, several of these max at 3-4ft:

Bomber Long A — largest size maxes at 6; smaller sizes run to 3 and 5 ft

Storm Original Thundersticks — the 3.5″ size only runs to 5; the jointed 5.5″ size maxes at 4

Yozuri Crystal Minnow (floating)

Smithwick Floating Rattling Rogue ( stay away from the largest size, the others are in your zone)

Rapala BX Minnow

Storm: Original Thundersitck, Original Jr Thundersitck, Thunderstick Madflash, Twitch Stick
Sebile: Koolie Minnow SK
Live Target: Yellow Perch, Pumpkinseed, Bluegill
Rapala: Flat Rap, Jointed, Orignal Floating, X-Rap, Husky Jerk
Salmo: Minnow, Sting,
Smithwick: Super Rouge Floating

The inside rod can literally be in that 1-2′ range, shouldve maybe said 1-4′ really. Main motor is up, kicker down and grinding shorelines, literally.

I’ll look at those other baits.

Huskys aren’t more than 10yds back, if that, and banging bottom, which isn’t a bad thing at times, but looking for other options. Seems like anything plastic dives too deep, balsa keeps er up.

Thanks for info thus far fellas!

I run into this on P2 trolling the shorelines. At certain times I like to get in super tight to shore. I’ve probably had a half dozen crankbaits with busted bills or they are cracked down the middle from beating on the bottom. It’s amazing how effective slow trolling and banging the bottom can be.

Hope this works.

Well I tried to attach a spread sheet but…
Lure Manufacture Lure Name Model Number Lure Size Lure Weight Cast Depth Troll Depth Buoyancy
Bandit Footloose 2″ 1/4 oz 0-1′
Sebile Koolie Minnow FL KM-GL-ML-O76 3″ 1/4 oz 1′ – 1-1/2′ Floathing
Sebile Koolie Minnow FL KM-GL-ML-O90 3-1/2″ 5/16 oz 1′ – 1-1/2′ Floathing
Sebile Koolie Minnow SL KM-GL-SL-O90 3-1/2″ 5/16 oz 1′ – 2′ Suspending
Storm Thunderstick Baby Deep DBTS04 1-3/4″ 1/8 oz 1.5′-6′ Slow Rise
Sebile Koolie Minnow SL KM-GL-SL-118 4-5/8″ 3/4 oz 1-1/2′ – 3′ Suspending
Live Target Yellow Perch YP73S 2-7/8″ 3/8 oz 1′-2′ Floathing
Live Target Yellow Perch YP98S 3-5/8″ 9/16 oz 1′-2′ Floathing
Live Target Yellow Perch YP115S 4-3/4″ 1-1/4 oz 1′-2′ Floathing
Rapala Flat Rap FLR06 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 1′-2′ Slow Rise
Sebile Rattsler ML RT-GL-ML-O65 2-1/2″ 1/4 oz 1′-2′ Floathing
Rapala Long Cast Minnow LC08 3-1/8″ 1/4 oz 1′-3′ Suspending
Rapala Long Cast Minnow LC10 4″-0″ 3/8 oz 1′-3′ Suspending
Rapala Long Cast Minnow LC12 4-3/4″ 5/8 oz 1′-3′ Suspending
Salmo Bullhead BD6SDR 2-1/2″ 1/4 oz 6′ 14′ Floathing
Smithwick Walleye Rattlin Rogue 3-1/2″ 1/4 oz 1′-4′ Floathing
Rapala Tail Dancer Deep TDD07 2-3/4″ 5/16 oz 15′ Sinking
Rapala Trolls to Minnow TTM-15 3-1/2″ 1/2 oz 15′ Floathing
Salmo Hornet H5SDR 2″ 1/4 oz 8′ 15′ Floathing
Storm Original Thundersitck J 3-1/2″ 1/4 oz 1′-5′ Floathing
Storm Original Jr Thundersitck J 3-1/2″ 1/4 oz 1′-5′ Floathing
Storm Thunderstick Madflash JM 3-1/2″ 1/4 oz 1′-5′ Floathing
Lindy River Rocker #7 3-3/4″ 1/2 oz 6′-8′ 15′-17′ Floathing
Salmo Boxer BX7SDR 2-1/2″ 7/8 oz 8′ 16.5′ Floathing
Salmo Bullhead BD8SDR 3-1/4″ 5/8 oz 8′ 19′ Floathing
Salmo Perch PH8SDR 3-1/8″ 5/8 oz 10′ 19.5′ Floathing
Zipbait Orbit 80 80SR 3-1/4″ 5/16 oz 2′ Suspending
Sebile Koolie Minnow SK KM-GL-ML-102 4″ 1/2 oz 2′ – 6′ Sinking
Luck-E-Strike Freak Deep Diver 3″ 5/8 oz 20′
Rapala Tail Dancer Deep TDD09 3-1/2″ 7/16 oz 20′ Sinking
Reef Runner Deep Little Ripper 600 Series 3-1/2″ 1/4 oz 21′ Floathing
Rapala Count Down CD03 1-1/2″ 1/8 oz 2′-3′ Sinking
Rapala Ultra Light Minnow ULM04 1-1/2″ 1/8 oz 2′-3′ Sinking
Rapala Ultra Light Minnow ULM06 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 2′-3′ Sinking
Rapala Flat Rap FLR08 3-1/8″ 1/4 oz 2′-4′ Slow Rise
Rapala Orignal Floating F03 1-1/2″ 1/16 oz 2′-4′ Floathing
Rapala Shad Rap Shallow Jointed JSSR05 2″ 1/4 oz 2′-4′ Floathing
Rapala Shad Rap Shallow Jointed JSSR07 2-3/4″ 3/8 oz 2′-4′ Floathing
Rapala X-Rap Count Down XRCD05 2″ 1/8 oz 2′-4′ Sinking
Sebile Rattsler ML RT-GL-ML-O85 3-1/4″ 1/2 oz 2′-4′ Floathing
Storm Twitch Stick TWS08 3-1/4″ 5/16 oz 2′-4′ Suspending
Bandit Series 100 2″ 1/4 oz 2′-5′
Storm Original Thundersitck AJ 4-3/8″ 1/2 oz 2′-7′ Floathing
Storm Thunderstick Madflash AJM 4-3/8″ 1/2 oz 2′-7′ Floathing
Rapala Clackin Crank CNC53 2″ 5/16 oz 3′ Slow Rise
Salmo Sting S6F 2-1/2″ 1/16 oz 1.5′ 3′ Floathing
Salmo Bullhead BD4F 1-3/4″ 1/16 oz 1.5′ 3.5′ Floathing
Salmo Minnow M5F 2″ 1/16 oz 1.5′ 3.5′ Floathing
Salmo Minnow M6F 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 1.5′ 3.5′ Floathing
Salmo Perch PH8F 3-1/8″ 1/2 oz 1.5′ 3.5′ Floathing
Salmo Slider SD7F 2-3/4″ 5/8 oz 1-1/2′ 3-1/2′ Floathing
Live Target Bluegill BG57S 2-1/4″ 1/4 oz 3′-4′ Floathing
Live Target Bluegill BG70S 2-3/4″ 1/2 oz 3′-4′ Floathing
Live Target Pumpkinseed PS57S 2-1/4″ 1/4 oz 3′-4′ Floathing
Live Target Pumpkinseed PS70S 2-3/4″ 1/2 oz 3′-4′ Floathing
Live Target Yellow Perch YP73M 2-7/8″ 3/8 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Live Target Yellow Perch YP98M 3-5/8″ 9/16 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Rapala Flat Rap FLR10 4″ 3/8 oz 3′-5′ Slow Rise
Rapala Jointed J05 2″ 1/8 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Rapala Orignal Floating F05 2″ 1/16 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Rapala Orignal Floating F07 2-3/4″ 1/8 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Rapala Orignal Floating F09 3-1/2″ 3/16 oz 3′-5′ Floathing
Rapala X-Rap XR06 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 3′-5′ Suspending
Rapala X-Rap XR08 3-1/8″ 1/4 oz 3′-5′ Suspending
Rapala X-Rap Count Down XRCD07 2-3/4″ 3/8 oz 3′-5′ Sinking
Storm Twitch Stick TWS10 4″ 5/8 oz 3′-5′ Suspending
Storm Thunder Craw CW07 2-3/4″ 1/4 oz 3′-5′
Rapala Count Down CD05 2″ 3/16 oz 3′-6′ Sinking
Rapala Shad Rap Jointed SSR05 2″ 3/16 oz 3′-6′ Floathing
Storm Thin Fin TF06 2-1/2″ 1/5 oz 3′-8′ Floathing
Rapala Clackin Crank CNC74 2-3/4″ 5/8 oz 4′ Slow Rise
Salmo Minnow M9F 3-1/2″ 3/8 oz 2.5′ 4′ Floathing
Salmo Sting S6SP 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 2.5′ 4′ Suspending
Salmo Sting S9F 3-1/2″ 3/8 oz 2.5′ 4′ Floathing
Smithwick Super Rouge Floating ADRD1200 5″ 3/8 oz 4′ Floathing
Smithwick Super Rouge Suspending ASDRD1200 5″ 3/8 oz 4′ Suspending
Rapala Jointed J13 5-1/4″ 5/8 oz 4′-14′ Floathing
Live Target Bluegill BG82S 3-1/4″ 1 oz 4′-5′ Floathing
Live Target Pumpkinseed Ps82S 3-1/4″ 1 oz 4′-5′ Floathing
Rapala Ultra Light Shad ULS04 1-1/2″ 1/8 oz 4′-5′ Sinking
Lindy River Rocker #3 2-3/8″ 3/16 oz 2′-3′ 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala Husky Jerk HJ06 2-1/2″ 1/8 oz 4′-6′ Suspending
Rapala Husky Jerk HJ08 3-1/8″ 1/4 oz 4′-6′ Suspending
Rapala Jointed J07 2-3/4″ 1/8 oz 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala Orignal Floating F11 4-3/8″ 3/16 oz 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala Orignal Floating F13 5-1/4″ 1/4 oz 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala Shad Rap Jointed JSR04 1-1/2″ 3/16 oz 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala Shallow Shad Rap SSR07 2-3/4″ 1/4 oz 4′-6′ Floathing
Rapala X-Rap XR10 4″ 7/16 oz 4′-6′ Suspending

I did a sort but see some deep diving lures got in there.

With that list I’m gonna need a bigger check book

Appreciate the info, I see a few I’m grabbing for next time round

Hey are you using planer boards to get the lures away from the boat? That shallow
would almost think the boat would scare them but I would not know.
Thanks

No. Planer boards at night is a no-go for me, plus trying to keep em right tight to shore would be even bigger PIA.

Shadow raps did well for us this last spring in cold shallow water. Decent trolling bait at speeds under 1mph. This was the floating shadow rap and not the shadow rap shad. We trolled these a lot in the 6′ range. Super shallow you might be better off casting them. When you pause these baits is where they really shine.

Have a knock on the original floaters? They were the primary bait i used all spring and summer this year. They cracked on the underside from the bill to the last treble fairly quickly and the paint chips off much quicker than i feel it should. I’ll be giving the BX minnow and live target baits the first go round next spring. Also very curious to hear other recommendations, thank you!

tbro16 wrote:

Have a knock on the original floaters

No knock, I think:???:

Bills will crack off here and there, haven’t really noticed the chipping, then again haven’t gotten into any big fish so hard to say with the originals.

Few of my huskys looking beat up, but then they’ve seen some bigger ones and I dont mind em looking a lil less clowny.

For a plastic bait the bomber long a runs really shallow, probably the best I know. It does have a wider wobble. I’d try putting down the baby pole and putting some 20 or 25# mono on a casting rig. The thick line will help keep the baits higher.

crawdaddy wrote:

For a plastic bait the bomber long a runs really shallow, probably the best I know. It does have a wider wobble. I’d try putting down the baby pole and putting some 20 or 25# mono on a casting rig. The thick line will help keep the baits higher.

Dilly. ,Dilly! Lol.

I feel I just got sent to the pit of misery…..

nhamm wrote:

I feel I just got sent to the pit of misery…..

Cmon nick grab a big boy pole

I will say, all my baits run shallower because I use 30 lb metered power pro for trolling on my snoopy rods.

Leave me and my small pole alone